The dream is dead.

Herb & Suds said:

Sorry been referred to as one so much from the violent half the country
I even started feeling I’m a communist

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Just remember: Nobody flees capitalism to go to communism unless they are running from long prison terms. People don’t build boats out of anything that floats to escape capitalism. I watched part of a show last night about people who came from communist countries talking about how misinformed people are thinking that’s a better life.

BodegaBud said:

Just remember: Nobody flees capitalism to go to communism unless they are running from long prison terms. People don’t build boats out of anything that floats to escape capitalism. I watched part of a show last night about people who came from communist countries talking about how misinformed people are thinking that’s a better life.

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Maybe so but it beats fascism and a dictator

Herb & Suds said:

Maybe so but it beats fascism and a dictator

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Lmao! Communist are dictators. Look up what happens to Falun Gong or Muslims in China. Talk to some of the folks that escaped the communist from Vietnam. Communism is the worst dictatorship there is. 100 Million people have died due to communism. Most starved to death or were murdered by their own government. I’ve been to a communist country before. You have no rights. A guy took a pic in the airport and two soldiers took his phone, erased it, and told him to NEVER do that again. They watch everything you do or say. You guys whine about the cops now. If we were communist they wouldn’t even need a warrant to bust in your door. For drug offenses people are still getting the death penalty. Fuck that! I like freedom and 3 meals a day. I’d take the Taliban over communism

CatHedral said:

What kept and keeps them down is not nebulous “negative bullshit” but people who speak as you do.

They are not hopeless, but they are disenfranchised specifically due to almost every Republican since after Eisenhower.

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You clowns sit on this forum all day menstruating like school girls over 2 parties that are the same turd in a different toilet bowl. garden slugs get more out of life. atleast they mulch

RobCat said:

You clowns sit on this forum all day menstruating like school girls over 2 parties that are the same turd in a different toilet bowl. garden slugs get more out of life. atleast they mulch

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I’m not too happy with either party but it is very disturbing to watch people be led down the Marxist path like the victims of Jones Town. It’s been done systematically to indoctrinate particularly the younger generation into forgetting about the evils of past communism and think that it might be something positive. Yes we aren’t perfect but every person that can walk,fly, or float here from the third world is risking their life doing so. People are willing to just vote away this good thing that we have for the chance of some utopia which has done nothing in other countries but imprison it’s entire populous and make life a living hell.

BodegaBud said:

I’m not too happy with either party but it is very disturbing to watch people be led down the Marxist path like the victims of Jones Town. It’s been done systematically to indoctrinate particularly the younger generation into forgetting about the evils of past communism and think that it might be something positive. Yes we aren’t perfect but every person that can walk,fly, or float here from the third world is risking their life doing so. People are willing to just vote away this good thing that we have for the chance of some utopia which has done nothing in other countries but imprison it’s entire populous and make life a living hell.

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There is no Marxism in America. Tell me who is advocating the collectivization of the means of production. See? Nobody.

RobCat said:

You clowns sit on this forum all day menstruating like school girls over 2 parties that are the same turd in a different toilet bowl. garden slugs get more out of life. atleast they mulch

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At least we don’t believe the tripe coming from the Big Lie press like all y’all. It is no wonder the Traitriots never provide links to their corrupt sources.

Black Americans have been beaten into believing the dream doesn't exist for them and I think there is a degree of resignation in some black communities. Role models should be the likes of Condoleezza Rice, Maya Angelou, Colin Powell, and that president guy. Instead it's a basketball or football star or a rapper because those are the goals that don't require an education that isn't provided them. We give them 10yo text books while my brother's children get a set of books and laptop for school and a set for at home so they don't hurt their backs. I believe the US is still the country of choice when it comes to immigration and for the bulk of them the American dream still exists. Just believing the dream exists is a good first step.
Did the US drag Australia into any wars or did they go because they were our allies? It's a bit of an insult to those who at least thought they were doing the right thing and died as a result. When the Chinese stopped importing Australian products who picked up the slack? Yep the old USA and hell the last thing we wanted was Australian wine. We arm their military and make sure the East China Sea remains open. If Australia needed us we would be there but if we needed them (what for I don't know) they would have to be dragged. The reason the Australians speak so poorly of us is because we invaded their culture with our restaurants, TV, music, and stores. That's not our fault. You make your own choices and can glean what you will. Send the centrist to the pillory. It's expected.

CatHedral said:

There is no Marxism in America. Tell me who is advocating the collectivization of the means of production. See? Nobody.

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Those motherfuckers right there

BodegaBud said:

Those motherfuckers right there

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Lol
Show me their collectivization agenda, otherwise sit back down.

CatHedral said:

At least we don’t believe the tripe coming from the Big Lie press like all y’all. It is no wonder the Traitriots never provide links to their corrupt sources.

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Everybody was all up in arms about the Russians supposedly using social media to push an agenda but what about the interference by the media??? My God every day Trump was in office they posted some bullshit. I mean it was absolutely ridiculous. Biden who is an absolute mess could take a shit on the floor in the Oval Office and somehow they would find a way to blame Trump. I just want honest reporting not what I want to hear. Really just honest no nonsense reporting

CatHedral said:

Lol
Show me their collectivization agenda, otherwise sit back down.

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It’s in the “Deal” that they are trying to get passed right now. You know the one that will put us further in debt which they will have to further tax and redistribute other people's assets. What’s that word for redistribution by force?? Oh yeah “ Communism”

BodegaBud said:

Everybody was all up in arms about the Russians supposedly using social media to push an agenda but what about the interference by the media??? My God every day Trump was in office they posted some bullshit. I mean it was absolutely ridiculous. Biden who is an absolute mess could take a shit on the floor in the Oval Office and somehow they would find a way to blame Trump. I just want honest reporting not what I want to hear. Really just honest no nonsense reporting

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I agree. The media have been off the chain. Fox, OAN and Newsmax have orgiastically been publishing corrosive lies as if they were legitimate journalism.
The damage such organizations have done to the American people becomes plain with each MAGA troll and antivax idiot who posts here. We are literally at war against people with a false truth. Golden cold worshipers redux.

BodegaBud said:

It’s in the “Deal” that they are trying to get passed right now. You know the one that will put us further in debt which they will have to further tax and redistribute other people's assets. What’s that word for redistribution by force?? Oh yeah “ Communism”

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Please provide link specific to the criterion: collectivization. Otherwise you are just another MAGA lost in the wilderness of what is actually so.

Also, how would our debt look once we undo that man’s trillions tax rebate to the richest? Odd that the Agent Orange cheerleaders do not discuss this and its considerable consequences.

CatHedral said:

Also, how would our debt look once we undo that man’s trillions tax rebate to the richest? Odd that the Agent Orange cheerleaders do not discuss this and its considerable consequences.

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Why is it fair to tax the rich more? That’s like charging one person $2 to see a movie but $200 to another. These are people that obviously spend more so they are paying taxes more. They pay more than you and I combined. They usually have employees and have created jobs which stimulates the economy. I’m much more concerned about not the millionaire but the millions of individuals who are living off our taxes yet contribute nothing but more illegitimate kids for us to take care of. These individuals are milking the cow which they have never fed. Let’s shut down some of those social programs and see how it motivates these people to get their ass off the couch and go find a job

BodegaBud said:

Why is it fair to tax the rich more? That’s like charging one person $2 to see a movie but $200 to another. These are people that obviously spend more so they are paying taxes more. They pay more than you and I combined. They usually have employees and have created jobs which stimulates the economy. I’m much more concerned about not the millionaire but the millions of individuals who are living off our taxes yet contribute nothing but more illegitimate kids for us to take care of. These individuals are milking the cow which they have never fed. Let’s shut down some of those social programs and see how it motivates these people to get their ass off the couch and go find a job

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Nonsense.
This is the standard argument of the legalized robbers. You appear to be yet another social Darwinist, who tend to cluster around the very wealthy and the hard right.

It is interesting to witness the current elaboration of grim ascetic Calvinism as originally deployed 400 years ago. These were the folks who equated worldly success with godly righteousness. The poor are obvious sinners!

It is not unlike that masturbatory cluster of ideation that levitates the current Hard Wrong political wing in the States.

BodegaBud said:

Just remember: Nobody flees capitalism to go to communism unless they are running from long prison terms. People don’t build boats out of anything that floats to escape capitalism. I watched part of a show last night about people who came from communist countries talking about how misinformed people are thinking that’s a better life.

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Just remember, Trump raised a mob to interfere with a valid election, overturn our democracy and kill his political enemies. Nobody does that unless he's running from long prison terms. He fucked up. Did not overturn the election, did not kill his enemies and most certainly did not stay in power.

He always wanted to be a dictator. Now that he is out of power, he's just a little dick.

Fogdog said:

Just remember, Trump raised a mob to interfere with a valid election, overturn our democracy and kill his political enemies. Nobody does that unless he's running from long prison terms.

He always wanted to be a dictator. Now that he is out of power, he's just a little dick.

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I await.
So far this has not been put on national trial.
It has been so long.
I await.

BodegaBud said:

Why is it fair to tax the rich more? That’s like charging one person $2 to see a movie but $200 to another. These are people that obviously spend more so they are paying taxes more. They pay more than you and I combined. They usually have employees and have created jobs which stimulates the economy. I’m much more concerned about not the millionaire but the millions of individuals who are living off our taxes yet contribute nothing but more illegitimate kids for us to take care of. These individuals are milking the cow which they have never fed. Let’s shut down some of those social programs and see how it motivates these people to get their ass off the couch and go find a job

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This is where you laughably demonstrate your ignorance about economic systems.

Taxes and all that. They are capitalist liberal tools. AOC and the gang? They want to raise taxes on the wealthy. That is a capitalist solution. I don't expect you to understand.