The end of carbon filters...?

Thank you Geronimo420 I really appreciate you commenting even though you do not seem to have any issues at this time, but thank you for participating in my thread. Lokie, your right, def not good. But I like your train of thought! BTW I have a Siberian Husky named Loki. No relation I'm sure :-)
 

dolamic

Well-Known Member
OP, some of us older stoners don't see so well. try breaking up your rant into paragraphs.
With the changes to the site currently a lot of people can't. I've been trying to break mine up and post pictures for a week and it won't let me. I'm guessing some people are unaffected by all this.
 

blacksun

New Member
and, of course, the expensively maintained and very large carbon filter setup.
Expensive? No.

Very large? No.

VERY dangerous ozone generators
"VERY dangerous"? That's like calling the electricity we use to run our setups on "VERY dangerous!!!!!!!!".........uh, yeah it is, but only if you're retarded.

Which, non of, can I imagine, work all that well.
You imagined wrong.

You've made several incorrect assumptions about our industry.

Let's see this product you're spamming/plugging already.
 

tallen

Well-Known Member
Carbon filters WORK. If you want the smell gone where your daughter is living, buy a filter and fan and offer to install it for them. Problem solved.
 

Taviddude

Well-Known Member
Expensive? No.Very large? No."VERY dangerous"? That's like calling the electricity we use to run our setups on "VERY dangerous!!!!!!!!".........uh, yeah it is, but only if you're retarded.You imagined wrong.You've made several incorrect assumptions about our industry. Let's see this product you're spamming/plugging already.
Exactly. No money to be made here Bud. Cook up another way to re-invent the wheel and turn a quick buck.Good luck.
 

HanginIron

Active Member
I think the general consensus is that most of us who are concerned about the smell use carbon filters. Granted, they are cumbersome but like you said they only need changed every 1-2 years making them relatively cheap and easy. They also restrict air flow somewhat forcing us to use bigger(and louder) fans. If you have a product that is cheaper, as safe, easier to use, and lasts longer then share your thoughts and I am sure you will find all kinds of support here. Instead, you are coming off as totally inexperienced and cryptic, dogging on a tried and true method because apparently the people you have had contact with don't use them properly.
 

GrowinTheDank

Active Member
I'm not really sure why what I'm saying/asking is confusing for some, but, let me reiterate. No this is DEF NOT spam and I'm not re-inventing anything! I love marijuana, I smoke it every night, I have a state legal medical marijuana card, most of my friends are hardcore smokers, MJ in involved in a very large part of my life. Now, my daughter (who currently lives, part time, with her mom and step dad) is contained in a house where marijuana is currently being grown in that basement. The entire house, including the porch and sometimes driveway, has a VERY strong odor. She is too young to know what it is at the moment (9) but I will not be long before she does (9 1/2 - 10 lol, hopefully much longer but I doubt it this day and age). I personally want to fix it for her sake. I have a few other friends, one that closet grows and two that own 4-5 houses that are used for cultivating alone. AGAIN, I am not experienced with the entire process, but I do have access to many products that, I believe, will make a major improvement, in said living conditions. But with my LIMITED experience I do not know which would be best for the job. I was REALLY hoping this wonderful and extremely knowledgable group of individuals would be willing to help me figure out which one will be the most effective. And if I'm encountering this problem (mostly with smell, as all her clothes and other belongings, including school backpack/clothes/supplies, smell of marijuana) then I'm sure others are too! Actually I know they are, by reading all of the threads and posts that are available across the web. Now, I may be mistaken, I was under the impression we were all on the same team in this forum. There seem to be a lot of very gracious and very experienced horticulturalist in here that offer a lot of help to a lot of other people. I assumed I would be no different. Besides, if I can find something that REALLY works, I'm sure many of you could benefit from it as well. I am new to this forum, so if I'm mistaken by what is happening here, PLEASE let me know. I am in no way, shape or form trying to deliberately mislead, misguide, spam, rip off, phish, steal or do ANYTHING unethical, to ANYONE! I really did not expect to be suspiciously questioned about my intentions, but that is completely fine if it helps to understand I'm not doing this for only selfish/spam/profitable/scamming/etc. reasons. I am going to thoroughly test whatever it is, hopefully you, help me decide on and will be keeping anyone interested up to date on the progress (pics, results, setup, capabilities, effectiveness, specifications) and if everything works out, will be able to offer it to anyone else who thinks they may be able to benefit. So I apologize if I came across as having ulterior motives, I just want my daughter (and anyone else in any similar situation) to not be unwillingly subjected to the side effects of cultivating such an amazing living organism. So if ANYONE is willing to share with me ANY concerns/problems/issues they are encountering (mostly with IAQ), your input will be EXTREMELY appreciated!!! Even If you believe that I am the only one with this issue, please help me find an adequate solution so my beautiful daughter does not have to keep attending elementary school wreaking of, always very good I might add, marijuana. Any other questions, including about my intentions, I will be happy to answer from anyone. :-)
Look at the size of what you just wrote... I understand exactly what you're saying and the type of discussion you're trying to spark, as do many others here. You don't need to write unnecessary shit to get your point across. Luckily, a few members here were able to decipher your giant blocks of text and are now trying to help you come to the conclusion that you actually have nothing to offer this community...and to think I actually thought I'd enjoy this topic (based on your thread title). I really wish you had some notable input on this subject, or hell even that mysterious product you referenced. OH WAIT, you have a bunch of them, well fucking pick one and we'll start this discussion from there.
 

newbie9

Active Member
Yeah i mean you can stick your nose to a good carbon filter exhaust vent and you wont even tell marijuana is preasent. Carbon filters everything from water to air. So for now i believe nothing will beat a carbon filter. Its most reliable and one of the cheapest solutions to go after. If your rooom is airtight, you have only 1 exhaust correctley adjusted to your needs and only one intake then there is no reason you would smell marijuana even inside the house outside of the room. Also If you change your filter every year or so as stat ed you will achieve best results. You could even have a dual carbon set up with one leading to another and then out. Its simple and effective. Just like the element itself.
 
Seriously? So out of all of that only newbie9 is the only one to even attempt to offer any type of advice whatsoever. So thank you i really appreciate that. And I agree growindank about the writing, but apparently the formatting does not come through. I also apologize for writing so much, I'm used to writing longer educational speeches, which I now see is not needed here. All I asked for was information because of my ADMITTED IN-experience. Never once did I try to sell anything. I have 192 commercial, residential and industrial IAQ products in my catalog, each doing something slightly different. So I thought, hey maybe some nice stoner (apparently not the friendliest) "friends" could help me narrow it down a little because, like I said, again, I am IN-EXPERIENCED. I never once claimed to know anything 100% (except for IAQ). I believe I even said, I wasn't sure it was even a problem. And yes you are correct, if I could get something that worked better then yes I would make it available for people to purchase, just as I will have to purchase, and I will add extra money to the product, for me, for said product. If you can find someone giving away equipment or materials and not making any money on it, please let me know so I can start purchasing from them. Look, all anyone had to say was everything we use for air quality works well enough, there are no problems. Which I know is not true, from reading posts. Sorry, I'm being long winded again. Appearantly I have nothing to offer here, so thank you for your time.
 

ru4r34l

Well-Known Member
Seriously? So out of all of that only newbie9 is the only one to even attempt to offer any type of advice whatsoever. So thank you i really appreciate that. And I agree growindank about the writing, but apparently the formatting does not come through. I also apologize for writing so much, I'm used to writing longer educational speeches, which I now see is not needed here. All I asked for was information because of my ADMITTED IN-experience. Never once did I try to sell anything. I have 192 commercial, residential and industrial IAQ products in my catalog, each doing something slightly different. So I thought, hey maybe some nice stoner (apparently not the friendliest) "friends" could help me narrow it down a little because, like I said, again, I am IN-EXPERIENCED. I never once claimed to know anything 100% (except for IAQ). I believe I even said, I wasn't sure it was even a problem. And yes you are correct, if I could get something that worked better then yes I would make it available for people to purchase, just as I will have to purchase, and I will add extra money to the product, for me, for said product. If you can find someone giving away equipment or materials and not making any money on it, please let me know so I can start purchasing from them. Look, all anyone had to say was everything we use for air quality works well enough, there are no problems. Which I know is not true, from reading posts. Sorry, I'm being long winded again. Appearantly I have nothing to offer here, so thank you for your time.
It's not that newbie9 is the only one to offer advice, but you were not asking for advice in your OP. It seems that you were offering or going to advise us what would be better than the filter currently growers use.

You may not have anything to offer right now, stick around your knowledge of HVAC will certainly be tested by some members here looking for advice.

regards,
 

Squatch

Member
Seriously? So out of all of that only newbie9 is the only one to even attempt to offer any type of advice whatsoever. So thank you i really appreciate that. And I agree growindank about the writing, but apparently the formatting does not come through. I also apologize for writing so much, I'm used to writing longer educational speeches, which I now see is not needed here. All I asked for was information because of my ADMITTED IN-experience. Never once did I try to sell anything. I have 192 commercial, residential and industrial IAQ products in my catalog, each doing something slightly different. So I thought, hey maybe some nice stoner (apparently not the friendliest) "friends" could help me narrow it down a little because, like I said, again, I am IN-EXPERIENCED. I never once claimed to know anything 100% (except for IAQ). I believe I even said, I wasn't sure it was even a problem. And yes you are correct, if I could get something that worked better then yes I would make it available for people to purchase, just as I will have to purchase, and I will add extra money to the product, for me, for said product. If you can find someone giving away equipment or materials and not making any money on it, please let me know so I can start purchasing from them. Look, all anyone had to say was everything we use for air quality works well enough, there are no problems. Which I know is not true, from reading posts. Sorry, I'm being long winded again. Appearantly I have nothing to offer here, so thank you for your time.
I dont see what you did WRONG??? From experience...Ignore the whiney little bitches...always wanting to bitch about something. This site does have its share of "good" people, don't let the "keyboard muscleheads" turn you away. They were just beat up alot as kids and need to do the same to you to feel better about themselves. After a while you'll learn how to "weed" out (pardon the pun) the bullshit. Stick around...your experience could prove handy to someone..:peace:
 

HanginIron

Active Member
It's not that newbie9 is the only one to offer advice, but you were not asking for advice in your OP. It seems that you were offering or going to advise us what would be better than the filter currently growers use.

You may not have anything to offer right now, stick around your knowledge of HVAC will certainly be tested by some members here looking for advice.

regards,
Very true. For instance, I am trying to figure out how to set up a variable flow thermostatically controlled duct diverter. I started out with no idea what I was doing but I knew what I wanted it to do. Still not exactly sure how to go about it but I am getting closer. Read about anything you don't understand, answer what you do. Like ru4r34l said, people WILL appreciate your expert advise. Once you start seeing what people are needing they will be more that happy to consider a product that could work.
 

potpimp

Sector 5 Moderator
Come on guys, he's new and inexperienced. He called us "horticulturists" :) Seriously, I think it's wonderful that you want to help out and smell is a problem. I see threads every week where somebody gets in big trouble with LEO, their landlord, the neighbors, the GF, etc. over *smell*. I think what people are waiting for is for you to throw out some actual solutions for us to consider; we're always open to new things. Just for giggles, what if someone is growing in a back bedroom, maybe 10 plants. Ona gel is not going to work; the ionic thingamagig's not safe (according to you) and the grower can't afford $500 for a nice carbon filter system. What, oh wise one, should he do?
 

Trousers

Well-Known Member
You could destink that size room for $275 or less. If you can't afford that, you should not be running 10 plants.
 

dbkick

Well-Known Member
and seriously if this clown is running a grow with an odor then the health problems from the flashbanging and military style entry the pigs are so known for may be more of an issue than a the air she breathes.
 

GrowinTheDank

Active Member
Seriously? So out of all of that only newbie9 is the only one to even attempt to offer any type of advice whatsoever. So thank you i really appreciate that. And I agree growindank about the writing, but apparently the formatting does not come through. I also apologize for writing so much, I'm used to writing longer educational speeches, which I now see is not needed here. All I asked for was information because of my ADMITTED IN-experience. Never once did I try to sell anything. I have 192 commercial, residential and industrial IAQ products in my catalog, each doing something slightly different. So I thought, hey maybe some nice stoner (apparently not the friendliest) "friends" could help me narrow it down a little because, like I said, again, I am IN-EXPERIENCED. I never once claimed to know anything 100% (except for IAQ). I believe I even said, I wasn't sure it was even a problem. And yes you are correct, if I could get something that worked better then yes I would make it available for people to purchase, just as I will have to purchase, and I will add extra money to the product, for me, for said product. If you can find someone giving away equipment or materials and not making any money on it, please let me know so I can start purchasing from them. Look, all anyone had to say was everything we use for air quality works well enough, there are no problems. Which I know is not true, from reading posts. Sorry, I'm being long winded again. Appearantly I have nothing to offer here, so thank you for your time.
What part of my post did you not understand about this
OH WAIT, you have a bunch of them, well fucking pick one and we'll start discussion from there.
From what I'm gathering here, you're far less educated than you think :/
 
To put it simply for those who can't understand english

The OP asked if anyone with growing experience knows about problems regarding IAQ then let him know so he (the expert on IAQ) can choose a product.

Not so we can choose a product for him...

Seriously... people are only flaming him because they can't process a long post


speaking ONLY from what I've read in this thread, i can say, one problem someone mentioned was carbon filter needing a room that is air tight, maybe you can find a simpler method for the many home growers that will not have an air tight room.
 

dbkick

Well-Known Member
To put it simply for those who can't understand english

The OP asked if anyone with experience knows about problems regarding IAQ then let him know so he (the expert on IAQ) can choose a product.

Not so we can choose a product for him...

Seriously... people are only flaming him because they can't process a long post


speaking ONLY from what I've read in this thread, i can say, one problem someone metnioned was carbon filter needing a room that is air tight, maybe you can find a simpler method for the many home growers that will not have an air tight room.
ever recorded the IAQ after a explosive device or two go off inside? air tight isn't required but negative pressure is and with most every fan/filter combo if you're exhausting you're gonna have negative pressure.
 
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