The fishing thread ( not about fish fertilizer)

[OldMedUser]

All this talk of using bait, jigs and float fishing for trout is raising my bile. Save that for salmon and coarse fish thank you very much.

A fly rod with a floating line and dry fly is the way a true fisher catches trout or salmon and the way my grandfather taught me in the classic manner. I resort to spinners when they won't rise to the fly but would never stoop to slinging bait at them. Bottom bouncing or float fishing with spin-n-glows on a 4/0 barbless hook for the larger salmonids works great for me. Single barbless for all fish is more sporting and a better test of skill.

I'm off to the trout lake and want to be in the water by 5 as it's dark by 7:30 now. Going to try out the new rod on a fish or 5 hopefully and get one or more to add to my dugout.

I have the rod all ready to go for trials with nothing glued or epoxied in place so changes will be easy. I'm thinking the smaller but thicker Martin Mountain Brook 56 looks better on the rod than one of my two older Berkley reels so have a bid on Ebay for another just like it. $20US and has a fly line on it without backing so likely no good and no mention of weight. Should be $60 with exchange and shipping so the same as that one I got a couple months ago from the reel repair shop in BC.

I need to use some U-40 Cork Seal on the little fighting butt to match the grip as well.





I got the headset magnifier and it works great with the finer size A threads without swinging the little glass in place to get 10X. I can remove the LED light to lower the weight and the whole thing is pretty comfortable to use with reading glasses on.

 

[Hashpants]

Lmao for rainbows in clear water streams?
Those are good panfish lures on the ice. Not so much for rainbows.
Gulp minnows or powerbait minnows under a float. Ya sure if they're on a minnow bite....but not tubes.

You are correct, won't work if you don't try it. But tell an inexperienced trout fisherman to use a float and a bead with a 9 ft rod. Lmao

 

[Aeroknow]

Actual beads lol. 6mm 8mm 10mm beads.
I'll get a link and a pic when I can
How deep are you fishing? In current?

Bigger the beads you’re mimicking roe that is floating away from the reds. Salmon try to suck it up and spit it back intto the reds. We use yarn for that too.
Problem with those big beads is when you swing it can bump off the hookset.
4-4mm beads. Is my goto and i never use a hook larger than a 1/0 and you need to be ready for that 50lber.
And i’m not talking flossing
Gotta float that hook and still fool them that it’s roe
17lb cxx. 4-4mm beads up to a #1 or 2 hook is my goto. Gamy hooks only. But i obviously don’t need to try and tel you how to bang em. Love the pics bro. Try the smaller beads if you get a chance

 

[Aeroknow]

This particular body of water has specific rules.

1 barbless hooks
2 no bait
3 catch and release only.

It's called Putah Creek and it's famous for the trout and fall salmon run.

One of my friends bought a time share type thing at some cabins right on the creek. So naturally I get to go there and fish lol.

Kastmaster pinch the barbs.
The stretch is a fly fishing body of water so don’t blame me when you feel like a retard out there casting spoons lol. I’d do it

 

[Jjgrow420]

You are correct, won't work if you don't try it. But tell an inexperienced trout fisherman to use a float and a bead with a 9 ft rod. Lmao

When did I once say anything about a 9ft rod?
And what's wrong with that? You obv don t fish trout bro
I'm helping a fellow fisherman with the best possible way to catch rainbows in a stream you can't use roe on. I've fished trout since I was knee high to a grasshopper.
I've prob held more fish in a day trip than you have in your entire life.

 

[Jjgrow420]

Bigger the beads you’re mimicking roe that is floating away from the reds. Salmon try to suck it up and spit it back intto the reds. We use yarn for that too.
Problem with those big beads is when you swing it can bump off the hookset.
4-4mm beads. Is my goto and i never use a hook larger than a 1/0 and you need to be ready for that 50lber.
And i’m not talking flossing
Gotta float that hook and still fool them that it’s roe
17lb cxx. 4-4mm beads up to a #1 or 2 hook is my goto. Gamy hooks only. But i obviously don’t need to try and tel you how to bang em. Love the pics bro. Try the smaller beads if you get a chance

Ya for salmon I dont use beads. Just skein.
Rainbows diff story kinda...

 

[Jjgrow420]

Bead fish, you can see the bead on the dock

Funny story.... went to say hi to some friends. Buddy just tied up, then ran to Tim's for a coffee and I grabbed his rod made one drift and nailed this little guy, and tangled up his leader line. Lmao. He was pissed!!! And he's a righty so that was so weird for me.

 

[Aeroknow]

Ya for salmon I dont use beads. Just skein.
Rainbows diff story kinda...

You ever try some red yarn instead of roe?

 

[Jjgrow420]

You ever try some red yarn instead of roe?

Yessir.
Yarn flies are common here too, not for salmon though.
We use gold more often than any other color though, and never under a float. But we do bounce it for trout. We also make the multi color ones pink/yellow, pink/gold, red/gold

 

[Aeroknow]

Yessir.
Yarn flies are common here too, not for salmon though.
We use gold more often than any other color though, and never under a float. But we do bounce it for trout

Right on.
I was coming up here from the bay area when i was younger and bouncing about a 2’-3’ leader with red yarn above the hook and we used to kill it. That was back when there was bigger numbers coming up too though

 

[Jjgrow420]

Nymph imitations slay too sometimes. If the roe bite sucks, and beads are slow I'll try plastic minnow. If that's not working I'll throw on a 'stoned fly'. That's a little bug looking thing we tie up that seems to make unhorny fish get boners

 

[Jjgrow420]

Right on.
I was coming up here from the bay area when i was younger and bouncing about a 2’-3’ leader with red yarn above the hook and we used to kill it. That was back when there was bigger numbers coming up too though

Waters deep here, and clear as fuck. Min 6-7ft leaders.

 

[Jjgrow420]

Hey there little guy

 

[Jjgrow420]

Nah man. I have no respect for snaggers and flossers. No offence.
I'm no dentist.
I'd safely call myself a trout (and fishing) 'elitist'. Lol
In fact, I was yelling at some people today who were snagging kings with j13s. I called em snaggers. He bit with the second mouth! (The ass)


Brown town

 

[Aeroknow]

Nah man. I have no respect for snaggers and flossers. No offence.
I'm no dentist.
I'd safely call myself a trout (and fishing) 'elitist'. Lol
In fact, I was yelling at some people today who were snagging kings with j13s. I called em snaggers
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Brown town
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Flossing isn’t snagging.
I quarantee you if you show up tossing spinners on the line you wouldn’t have a good time.
Snagging is snagging. When you hook them in the mouth it’s not snagging. Yeah, some people swing on everything and give it a bad name.
But. I catch them every fucking way. And I C&R. Flossing is just the way some of the spots are around here while bankin it

 

[Jjgrow420]

Flossing isn’t snagging.
I quarantee you if you show up tossing spinners on the line you wouldn’t have a good time.
Snagging is snagging. When you hook them in the mouth it’s not snagging. Yeah, some people swing on everything and give it a bad name.
But. I catch them every fucking way. And I C&R. Flossing is just the way some of the spots are around here

Flossing is fancy smoke and mirrors snagging.
The fish didn't bite. It's snagged. Running line through it's mouth then setting the hook is snagging. There's no two ways about it.
I've never tossed a spinner for salmon. Hardware...spoons, wiggle warts and j13s. Well and k15 kwikfish. That's it. I don't fish for salmon in small streams or shallow water. Snagging a fish just doesn't do anything for me.

 

[Aeroknow]

Flossing is fancy smoke and mirrors snagging.
The fish didn't bite. It's snagged. Running line through it's mouth then setting the hook is snagging. There's no two ways about it.
I've never tossed a spinner for salmon. Hardware...spoons, wiggle warts and j13s. Well and k15 kwikfish. That's it.

Well like i said. Show up here fishing like that and all you’d do is snag every other guy fishing on the line at these spots. It’s just the way it is.
But again. I fish from boat. I also bank it pretty much every single way you can. And flossing is fun too

 

[Jjgrow420]

Well like i said. Show up here fishing like that and all you’d do is snag every other guy fishing on the line at these spots. It’s just the way it is.
But again. I fish from boat. I also bank it pretty much every single way you can. And flossing is fun too

I wouldn't fish a spot like that anyways. Different strokes for different folks...
Just not my style. I prefer the pier bite on hardware when the fish are still chrome. Once they move into a small stream I don't fish for them. Big river though is diff

 

[Aeroknow]

I wouldn't fish a spot like that anyways. Different strokes for different folks...
Just not my style. I prefer the pier bite on hardware when the fish are still chrome. Once they move into a small stream I don't fish for them. Big river though is diff

These are big rivers but far from where they’ve been feeding. The hens look chrome but white meat. These are straight uo put and take rivers also btw

 

[Jjgrow420]

These are big rivers but far from where they’ve been feeding. The hens look chrome but white meat. These are straight uo put and take rivers also btw

Salmon meat is more often than not, white meat. They just dye it and sell it to grocery stores etc.