The French Cannoli` Hash Thread

[myfather]

Dry fast, leave around 5% moisture to let the hash set its shape and begin a deep cure. No need to press the trichs, when you dab them, they combust and vanish into thin air. 0% wax residue. My camera is not the worlds best and cannot get those macros you want, but you can trust that i use my 60x microscope to look for impurities. It's super clean and nothing but spherical gland heads as far as the eye can see.

I'll be honest, I have made and smoked just about every kind of hash there is. From wild poly hybrids to ancient landraces. It is all about the input and then the technique. The bottom line is that if your trichs dont stand up and reach for the sky, they will not easily separate from the stalk or the plant and you will have bad yields of mediocre hash.

I think using distilled or R/O water is also paramount. It is a much more expensive and time consuming making distilled ice, but chemicals in tap water bond to the oils in the hash.

One last point for optimal enjoyment: DO NOT USE A FUCKING BIC LIGHTER!!! or any other propane/butane source of fire. Get you some bee line or an embur. Lab results from a cashed bowl of bubble hash using a bic lighter showed about 11% residual butane and propane in that black soot. Makes your hash taste like gasoline. A bic lighter is a great way to ruin perfect hash

 

[myfather]

I also want to mention something about skin contact to sticky bubble hash. I never get more grossed out than watching someone roll a ball of scissor hash with their fingers, then blazing it up. Do you even realize how many billions of dead skin cells a human sheds every day? Much less, on your dry crusty hands? I'm sorry, but I really do not care to smoke my dead skin, much less anyone elses. To make holy grail hash, you have to create the most sterile environment possible and wear those nitrile gloves.

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

I am not sure anymore if we are all talking about the same article.
The Dry Ice is such a butchery that it is better to pass.
The article on the Bubbleman sieving technique is the one I am supposed to comment on.
I will try to be a real French diplomat here. I have been taught a technique that is totally opposite to what is done in the article, a technique that is quite universal in hashish producing countries even if it has a lot of variation. First sieve is ALWAYS first quality, first sieve is always gentle, first sieve takes only a few minutes, do I need to go on. Furthermore as Thundercat was mentioning, those trichomes are seriously immature. You have a very good eyes for a beginner by the way my friend and a good understanding as well, immature trichomes will not have the potency, flavors and richness of a mature one.

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Dry fast, leave around 5% moisture to let the hash set its shape and begin a deep cure. No need to press the trichs, when you dab them, they combust and vanish into thin air. 0% wax residue. My camera is not the worlds best and cannot get those macros you want, but you can trust that i use my 60x microscope to look for impurities. It's super clean and nothing but spherical gland heads as far as the eye can see.

I'll be honest, I have made and smoked just about every kind of hash there is. From wild poly hybrids to ancient landraces. It is all about the input and then the technique. The bottom line is that if your trichs dont stand up and reach for the sky, they will not easily separate from the stalk or the plant and you will have bad yields of mediocre hash.

I think using distilled or R/O water is also paramount. It is a much more expensive and time consuming making distilled ice, but chemicals in tap water bond to the oils in the hash.

One last point for optimal enjoyment: DO NOT USE A FUCKING BIC LIGHTER!!! or any other propane/butane source of fire. Get you some bee line or an embur. Lab results from a cashed bowl of bubble hash using a bic lighter showed about 11% residual butane and propane in that black soot. Makes your hash taste like gasoline. A bic lighter is a great way to ruin perfect hash

So you are telling me that the best hashish makers in the world have for hundred of thousands of years pressed their trichomes for no good reason. Well there is some scientific datas that prove them right, like decarboxylation, preservation of terpenes, binding terpenes to the cannabinoids.
By the way dabbing come from the dawn of time when one of our ancestors throw a piece of Charas on some coals while harvesting seeds or fiber, it was actually the only way to smoke before the introduction of tobacco from the New World. Pressed hashish will dab when it is quality and I have a few witness if need be.
You are SO right about Dead Skins, I shiver to think of what I smoked all these years when my Afghani friends where pressing some Mazar E Sharif cream or in India hand rubbed cream.

I am gonna be sick...........................

 

[Thundercat]

Why thank you frenchy, I like to think I learn very fast! I've toyed with hash making over the last few years. My first hash was actually dry sieved with a silk screen and then pressed with a hot bottle of water. I know now that it was both very impure, alot of green material, and that I didn't press quite long enough. It had just started to get the nice glossy melted look to it and formed a solid bar and I called it good at the time. It did have a great flavor though, very limey just like the afghan kush landrace it came from. That plant yielded almost nothing for buds, but was covered with tons of sugar leaves just coated in resin.

I didn't take a picture as it wasn't much to see, but last night I was cleaning up getting ready to move, and cleaned off my trimming trays. I ended up with about .5g of some very blonde that i put through my silk screen to get out most of the green left. Then hand pressed it for about 20 minutes. I'm sure the sun and the extra heat would have made it WAY easier, but now I have a blister on my thumb and a pretty little log (.4g I lost a little in the process) of some bubba kush hashish which literally smells like you opened a jar of fresh coffee ! Thanks frenchy my sore thumb aside this has been great. I hope someday I'll get a chance to make it to a seminar, or get to one of these cups. If you guys go to any of the michigan cups next year, I should be able to swing that I'll be moving very close to there.

Edit; Oh ya can I get Stephanie's number again so I don't have to look back through all the page to find it. I just weighed my sugar trim from my last round and had about 10 oz so I figure that should be enough for a decent bubble hash run. I will prolly split it in 2 based on the strains that are in it.

 

[myfather]

Dude, i hate to break it to you.... modern technique and technology > ancient technique and technology

I highly doubt indians and native arabs were growing weed to the caliber that we grow today. Hash was pressed for smuggling purposes, not to preserve terps. The word terpene did not exist thousands of years ago. A real deep cure preserves terps more than any wet pressed hash will ever. I will take the pepsi challenge on my hash any day of the week

I mean, dont you think that cars have come a long way since the invention of the wheel? Think about it. I appreciate your rich knowledge about the history of hash, but lets face it... younger smarter people make good stuff great.

 

[thetrickstergod]

...a little humility goes a long way, especially for "younger smarter people."

 

[myfather]

Goes both ways really... The whole 'how can you question 1000s of years of history' falls into the indoctrination line of thinking. Too limiting for those independent thinkers out there.. I thought all pot smokers could agree that "the new shit is always better than that last shit"

Also, no disrespect for a well learned human. Frenchy knows his shit and loves his hash.... seems like an alright dude to me. I also feel like my contribution to this thread is 100% valid. I've spent many years making the hashish as well. My technique is dialed in and delivers every time. It's all about controlling every variable as much as humanly possible to get unadulterated gland head hash using water as the solvent

 

[Thundercat]

I do not think new is always better, though I appreciate good ideas whether they be new or old . It sure seems the use of IWE has been adopted by most as a newer technique which is better then the old. Does that mean that dry sieved is no good? Certainly not! I'm looking forward to what frenchy has to say regarding bubbleman's article for just this reason. I personally think a key to making new things better is learning from the old which is a big part of why I appreciate what Frenchy is bringing to the community. He is trying and adopting new techs....like IWE, but using the old knowledge as well to preserve and enhance things. He's talked many times in this thread about trying various new techs, and testing different things.

Anyway not in any way critisizing your technique either, there are alot of ways to to do many things and still get a fantastic end result! That being said, your trichs look gorgeous man, very beautiful, nice golden color and looks like all heads like you said man props.

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Stephanie: 1-877-450-2247

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Dude, i hate to break it to you.... modern technique and technology > ancient technique and technology

I highly doubt indians and native arabs were growing weed to the caliber that we grow today. Hash was pressed for smuggling purposes, not to preserve terps. The word terpene did not exist thousands of years ago. A real deep cure preserves terps more than any wet pressed hash will ever. I will take the pepsi challenge on my hash any day of the week

I mean, dont you think that cars have come a long way since the invention of the wheel? Think about it. I appreciate your rich knowledge about the history of hash, but lets face it... younger smarter people make good stuff great.

You have so much to learn and so much humility that you will go far.
Smarter people makes good stuff great but they learn the basic before they do.
Please go and reinvent the wheel before you start building your car.....................

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Goes both ways really... The whole 'how can you question 1000s of years of history' falls into the indoctrination line of thinking. Too limiting for those independent thinkers out there.. I thought all pot smokers could agree that "the new shit is always better than that last shit"

Also, no disrespect for a well learned human. Frenchy knows his shit and loves his hash.... seems like an alright dude to me. I also feel like my contribution to this thread is 100% valid. I've spent many years making the hashish as well. My technique is dialed in and delivers every time. It's all about controlling every variable as much as humanly possible to get unadulterated gland head hash using water as the solvent

All contributions are 100% valid my friend.
Now I have 2 questions for you: Do you activate your THC? If not why. Do you press your trichomes? If not why

 

[Thundercat]

Thanks frenchy I saved it this time .

 

[SHvisitor]

Frenchy you need to make those seminar aivalable somewhere. To me Charas, nepalese and paki are the best hashish in the world and i'd love to hear what you have to say about them. Sure full melt is tasty but there's something about the creme, i'm sure that running those landrace on bubble bags would not give you the same thing...

Have a dank day!

 

[myfather]

Yes i activate my thc when I burn it with fire.
I do not press my trich heads because i like to preserve them in their basic form.
The more moisture you trap in your hash, the hotter it will burn on your throat when your fire turns that liquid into a vapor.

 

[SHvisitor]

@myfather: I use to live in asia where i smoked some of the best nepalese paki afghan and indian hash and trust me i would not exchange a kilo of ice wax against a 100g of malana cream
Now not everyone has the same taste, in some country the think we're crazy drinking milk, i dont really care for smoking anybody's skin as long as his hash is comparable to creme.

Have a dank day!

edit: About that old vs new bit, go ask actual mechanical engineer what the think of the pyramid...

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Yes i activate my thc when I burn it with fire.
I do not press my trich heads because i like to preserve them in their basic form.
The more moisture you trap in your hash, the hotter it will burn on your throat when your fire turns that liquid into a vapor.

You need over 30 min at 220 to 240 F to decarboxylate the resin, so you are just burning not decarboxylating
I will not go again into why pressing is vital since you can check it up on the thread, so if you want to talk about it give me the courtesy to inform yourself of the why

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Frenchy you need to make those seminar aivalable somewhere. To me Charas, nepalese and paki are the best hashish in the world and i'd love to hear what you have to say about them. Sure full melt is tasty but there's something about the creme, i'm sure that running those landrace on bubble bags would not give you the same thing...

Have a dank day!

I will be a speaker at the Bay Area Hempfest as well as at the next Emerald Cup. I am trying to organize lectures as well and will most certainly cover traditional hashish in a video when I will show some dry sieving

 

[myfather]

Bro i'm not eating the hash... plus if you want a true decarbox, its 2 hours 10 minutes at 200 fahrenheit. If you look at the charts that show how to properly convert THC A to D9THC without burning the terps right out of there, you would know this.

I would much rather have 100% unadulterated bubble hash that some manipulated form...

sorry to blow the doors off of your thread and I know this is mostly irrelevant but there is a reason why people making my style of hash are winning every single hash competition out there.

 

[subcool]

I'd put Frenchy's Chocolate Pinot Nior Pressed Hash against ANYTHING I saw at the cup including what was in my stash box. Except the 10 gram piece Leo gave me
I am a Huge fan of beach sand which Frenchy dosn't even consider hash and while just as potent much of his hash DOES have a better taste and a MUCH longer shelf life.