The French Cannoli` Hash Thread

Shawns

Shawns

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The way I look at it is the trichomes do not make up 40% of the weight of the material so it'd be impossible to get that high of a return imo
 
WarMachine

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Hey Frenchy, what are your thoughts about doing a stem run for bubble? Worth it or nay? I usually take them and make oil with it.
 
jon daly

jon daly

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hey frenchy what are you thoughts of using old, but high quality trims/small nugs for hash? its 6-7 months old but good/great quality
 
Frenchy Cannoli

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jon daly said:
hey frenchy what are you thoughts of using old, but high quality trims/small nugs for hash? its 6-7 months old but good/great quality
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If the trims have been kept in good "curing conditions", please do not hesitate. The perfect curing of flowers activate a natural decarboxylation of the THCA into THC, so it should be for trims as well.
 
jon daly

jon daly

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yes sir 68-74 degrees 40% humidity the whole time. how long would you recommend me soak the trim for since its been stored so long?

is there any thing else you would recommend me doing aside from what your vids and info say when working with trim at that stage?
 
Frenchy Cannoli

Frenchy Cannoli

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jon daly said:
yes sir 68-74 degrees 40% humidity the whole time. how long would you recommend me soak the trim for since its been stored so long?

is there any thing else you would recommend me doing aside from what your vids and info say when working with trim at that stage?
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Let the trims soak in water between 2 layers of ice for 10 to 20 minutes. Be gentle and loving and you will receive back.
 
smokekingfourtwenty

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you rock frenchy thanks for sharing your knowledge. ive been watching your videos and following you here. my next harvest coming up ill be making some cannoli's. thank you again
 
WarMachine

WarMachine

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Hey Frenchy, I was watching Subcool's video on how to make bubble hash and I was wondering what you thought about his agitation technique? Would you consider that gentle..?
 
WattSaver

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Just found this thread a few days ago. Still have 100 pages to go. But I want to say thank you now.

It's nice to lean concept along with technique.

And it nice to see another person who believes in curing extracts. Even scissor's hash is much better 8wks later.


EDIT: Played with some OLD water hash that I put away. I worked it in hand for 15 min's and it responded and changed. Something I didn't expect, smokes better than before.

Ran some more old trim tonight. Going to massage by hand before I cure for a couple of months.

Thanks again, Watts
 
Brownbearbauer

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This is to show the change that happens when you press with too much moisture present and the crumbly waxy consistency it brings about. While it really is great for rolling into joints, I think my personal preference will dictate me drying out my trichomes more before I press next time.


Freshly pressed:



After Curing:




I broke it up and let it dry out because I had it sealed in a jar, in a moving truck, for way longer than I'd have liked. Friggin transmission blew out halfway through Wyoming so it was stuck in a uhaul in the desert for a few days... Anyways, I managed to dry it out further, but when I tried to repress it simply would not melt down the way it did the first time. Wouldn't melt down at all actually, and had a very difficult time getting it to stick together without fissuring and crumbling. Very interesting change. I had to settle with repressing in my palm to make a solid chunk, but it is nowhere near as solid or complete of a press as my initial.
 
WattSaver

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GrowBrooklyn said:
THCA coverts to THC and CBDA to CBD via decarboxylation. When THC degrades, it becomes CBN, not CBD. This is very important as many growers think they can up the CBD content via over-ripening or oxidation. While this might have benefits on terpenoids and such, it does not cause THC to convert to CBD. The THC degrades to CBN and thus loses potency.

I can't find a great reference from a primary source, but I know there are papers out there. Maybe another weednerd can step up and point us to better. Here is what I did find to back it up...

http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/bulletin/bulletin_1997-01-01_1_page008.html

If you search for "THC to CBN" on Google you will see many many secondary sources.

Pretty pictures of the chemical process:

http://delta9technologies.com/images/4ef764ddb5bfd.png
http://www.projectcbd.com/images/CBD.Synthesis.jpg
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I know that this is old but it pissed me off. With the drying method they used, it basically ruined any useful test data for a grower who is trying to cure properly. A tobacco grower would say WTF.

Quote on sample prep:

The plant material used in the study was grown at the University of Mississippi medicinal plant garden. Mature plants were harvested and dried in a drying barn. The temperature was set initially at 50o C and was then increased at 2.5o C per hour until 70o C was reached. Under those conditions, dryness was complete within 6-8 hours. The dried materials were then coarsely manicured, packed in closed barrels and stored in an air-conditioned vault.

At this point fresh material had been reduced to dried out bacon. (70C=158F)
 
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