The Great Stabilisation

abe23

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The Great Stabilisation
Dec 17th 2009
From The Economist print edition


The recession was less calamitous than many feared. Its aftermath will be more dangerous than many expect


IT HAS become known as the “Great Recession”, the year in which the global economy suffered its deepest slump since the second world war. But an equally apt name would be the “Great Stabilisation”. For 2009 was extraordinary not just for how output fell, but for how a catastrophe was averted.

Twelve months ago, the panic sown by the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers had pushed financial markets close to collapse. Global economic activity, from industrial production to foreign trade, was falling faster than in the early 1930s. This time, though, the decline was stemmed within months. Big emerging economies accelerated first and fastest. China’s output, which stalled but never fell, was growing by an annualised rate of some 17% in the second quarter. By mid-year the world’s big, rich economies (with the exception of Britain and Spain) had started to expand again. Only a few laggards, such as Latvia and Ireland, are now likely still to be in recession.

There has been a lot of collateral damage. Average unemployment across the OECD is almost 9%. In America, where the recession began much earlier, the jobless rate has doubled to 10%. In some places years of progress in poverty reduction have been undone as the poorest have been hit by the double whammy of weak economies and still-high food prices. But thanks to the resilience of big, populous economies such as China, India and Indonesia, the emerging world overall fared no worse in this downturn than in the 1991 recession. For many people on the planet, the Great Recession was not all that great.

That outcome was not inevitable. It was the result of the biggest, broadest and fastest government response in history. Teetering banks were wrapped in a multi-trillion-dollar cocoon of public cash and guarantees. Central banks slashed interest rates; the big ones dramatically expanded their balance-sheets. Governments worldwide embraced fiscal stimulus with gusto. This extraordinary activism helped to stem panic, prop up the financial system and counter the collapse in private demand. Despite claims to the contrary, the Great Recession could have been a Depression without it.


Stable but frail
So much for the good news. The bad news is that today’s stability, however welcome, is worryingly fragile, both because global demand is still dependent on government support and because public largesse has papered over old problems while creating new sources of volatility. Property prices are still falling in more places than they are rising, and, as this week’s nationalisation of Austria’s Hypo Group shows, banking stresses still persist. Apparent signs of success, such as American megabanks repaying public capital early (see article), make it easy to forget that the recovery still depends on government support. Strip out the temporary effects of firms’ restocking, and much of the rebound in global demand is thanks to the public purse, from the officially induced investment surge in China to stimulus-prompted spending in America. That is revving recovery in big emerging economies, while only staving off a relapse into recession in much of the rich world.

This divergence will persist. Demand in the rich world will remain weak, especially in countries with over-indebted households and broken banking systems. For all the talk of deleveraging, American households’ debt, relative to their income, is only slightly below its peak and some 30% above its level a decade ago. British and Spanish households have adjusted even less, so the odds of prolonged weakness in private spending are even greater. And as their public-debt burden rises, rich-world governments will find it increasingly difficult to borrow still more to compensate. The contrast with better-run emerging economies will sharpen. Investors are already worried about Greece defaulting (see article), but other members of the euro zone are also at risk. Even Britain and America could face sharply higher borrowing costs.

Big emerging economies face the opposite problem: the spectre of asset bubbles and other distortions as governments choose, or are forced, to keep financial conditions too loose for too long. China is a worry, thanks to the scale and composition of its stimulus. Liquidity is alarmingly abundant and the government’s refusal to allow the yuan to appreciate is hampering the economy’s shift towards consumption (see article). But loose monetary policy in the rich world makes it hard for emerging economies to tighten even if they want to, since that would suck in even more speculative foreign capital.


Walking a fine line
Whether the world economy moves smoothly from the Great Stabilisation to a sustainable recovery depends on how well these divergent challenges are met. Some of the remedies are obvious. A stronger yuan would accelerate the rebalancing of China’s economy while reducing the pressure on other emerging markets. Credible plans for medium-term fiscal cuts would reduce the risk of rising long-term interest rates in the rich world. But there are genuine trade-offs. Fiscal tightening now could kill the rich world’s recovery. And the monetary stance that makes sense for America’s domestic economy will add to the problems facing the emerging world.

That is why policymakers face huge technical difficulties in getting the exit strategies right. Worse, they must do so against a darkening political backdrop. As Britain’s tax on bank bonuses shows, fiscal policy in the rich world risks being driven by rising public fury at bankers and bail-outs. In America the independence of the Federal Reserve is under threat from Congress. And the politics of high unemployment means trade spats are becoming a bigger risk, especially with China.

Add all this up, and what do you get? Pessimists expect all kinds of shocks in 2010, from sovereign-debt crises (a Greek default?) to reckless protectionism (American tariffs against China’s “unfair” currency, say). More likely is a plethora of lesser problems, from sudden surges in bond yields (Britain before the election), to short-sighted fiscal decisions (a financial-transactions tax) to strikes over pay cuts (British Airways is a portent, see article). Small beer compared with the cataclysm of a year ago—but enough to temper the holiday cheer.





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Johnnyorganic

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Interesting article, abe. Thanks.

Uncertainty among business types is toxic to an economy. Which is my biggest fear about much of the legislation currently under consideration in Congress. Not to mention the Administration's attempt to do by regulation via the EPA what the Democrats in Congress cannot/will not do.

If the businesses are uncertain over their prospects under the heels of government they do not invest, they do not expand, they do not hire. They hunker down and wait. And this uncertainty ripples through the economy.

History shows us what revitalizes an ailing economy: lower taxes. But the Democrats will not do it. They can't without appearing to betray their supporters.
 

abe23

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Interesting article, abe. Thanks.

Uncertainty among business types is toxic to an economy. Which is my biggest fear about much of the legislation currently under consideration in Congress. Not to mention the Administration's attempt to do by regulation via the EPA what the Democrats in Congress cannot/will not do.

If the businesses are uncertain over their prospects under the heels of government they do not invest, they do not expand, they do not hire. They hunker down and wait. And this uncertainty ripples through the economy.

History shows us what revitalizes an ailing economy: lower taxes. But the Democrats will not do it. They can't without appearing to betray their supporters.
I'm glad you liked it. I think it's important that we be clear about what happened with the banks last year and the economist is about as authoritative a source on this as any and they're anything but lefties...

I don't agree that everything congress is doing will necessarily create uncertainty and stymy economic growth. In fact, I think we need legislation that promotes renewable resources and encourage energy efficiencies for economic reasons alone. With the growing demand for energy around the world, whoever comes up with clean, sustainable sources of power will be dominating tomorrow's economy and that's where we should be looking to. You have to be smart about it and offer incentives rather than penalties...carrots not sticks.

I don't think it's an intrusion on my freedom if congress decides that a company doing r&d on next-generation batteries or alternate energy sources should get tax breaks or government grants or loans. Sure it's our money, but we aren't going to make these investments as individuals even though we will all reap the benefit of economic growth if we are building the priuses and the solar panels that are going to drive tomorrow's economy. And this doesn't even have anything to do with whether you accept man-made climate change or not, it's just economic common sense. There's only so much oil, gas and coal we can burn and we've been using those for energy for almost 200 years now. If we aren't the ones doing the innovation, asia or europe will. And if that happens we definitely won't be able to pay back the money we borrowed for tax cuts, iraq, tarp, healthcare reform etc...

I think the uncertainty in the business sector comes from banks that aren't making loans despite tarp and interest rate being virtually zero. If small and medium sized business can't get loans, there won't be much growth. The question we should be asking is why isn't there more of a thaw in the credit markets and frankly I don't know the answer to that.

As for tax cuts being the only thing to revitalize an ailing economy...ok, but unless you also cut spending you end up with a huge deficit (just ask dubya). Things like cobra and unemployment benefits avoid the downward spiral where people who are working poor and barely making ends meet, lose their jobs, then their healthcare, then their homes and finally their dignity. More people who are destitute and living on the street doesn't help the economy either, especially when we all have to pitch in to cover the cost of massive foreclosures and emergency room visits by people who can't both afford insurance AND food. Sure part of it is political since poor people tend to vote for democrats, but I do think it belongs into the big picture of the economy.
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
I'm glad you liked it. I think it's important that we be clear about what happened with the banks last year and the economist is about as authoritative a source on this as any and they're anything but lefties...

I don't agree that everything congress is doing will necessarily create uncertainty and stymy economic growth. In fact, I think we need legislation that promotes renewable resources and encourage energy efficiencies for economic reasons alone. With the growing demand for energy around the world, whoever comes up with clean, sustainable sources of power will be dominating tomorrow's economy and that's where we should be looking to. You have to be smart about it and offer incentives rather than penalties...carrots not sticks.

I don't think it's an intrusion on my freedom if congress decides that a company doing r&d on next-generation batteries or alternate energy sources should get tax breaks or government grants or loans. Sure it's our money, but we aren't going to make these investments as individuals even though we will all reap the benefit of economic growth if we are building the priuses and the solar panels that are going to drive tomorrow's economy. And this doesn't even have anything to do with whether you accept man-made climate change or not, it's just economic common sense. There's only so much oil, gas and coal we can burn and we've been using those for energy for almost 200 years now. If we aren't the ones doing the innovation, asia or europe will. And if that happens we definitely won't be able to pay back the money we borrowed for tax cuts, iraq, tarp, healthcare reform etc...

I think the uncertainty in the business sector comes from banks that aren't making loans despite tarp and interest rate being virtually zero. If small and medium sized business can't get loans, there won't be much growth. The question we should be asking is why isn't there more of a thaw in the credit markets and frankly I don't know the answer to that.

As for tax cuts being the only thing to revitalize an ailing economy...ok, but unless you also cut spending you end up with a huge deficit (just ask dubya). Things like cobra and unemployment benefits avoid the downward spiral where people who are working poor and barely making ends meet, lose their jobs, then their healthcare, then their homes and finally their dignity. More people who are destitute and living on the street doesn't help the economy either, especially when we all have to pitch in to cover the cost of massive foreclosures and emergency room visits by people who can't both afford insurance AND food. Sure part of it is political since poor people tend to vote for democrats, but I do think it belongs into the big picture of the economy.
Of course spending should be cut drastically, that's a no brainer. I didn't agree with Bush's love of big government either. But please don't lecture me about Bush and the deficit when Obama's very first year deficit is more that all of Dubya's eight years put together.

Innovation is not done through government. In fact, government is one of the least innovative entities ever created. Government is synonymous with inefficiency. Government discourages innovation and healthy risk-taking. Innovation is done through free markets. Henry Ford did not need a government subsidy to develop the assembly line.

And this Cap & Trade stuff is mostly stick and very little carrot. Cost of living will go up drastically across the board. The Carbon Emissions racket will chase industry out of this country and into the Third World where the companies can operate with little interference.

The Health Care legislation is another example of why businesses are uncertain. They just don't know what is going to happen next and a large part of that is the lack of transparency at work right now in the Senate. Manager's Amendment my dimpled ass.

I do agree with you on the TARP money not being used for lending. Many of the larger banks have focused on returning that money with interest as fast as possible. Why? Could it be because the current administration made no secret after the fact that the bailout came with ominous strings attached?

The banks responded by using the money to stabilize and nothing more. I can't say that I blame them.

On the other hand I would have let them fail in the first place.
 

abe23

Active Member
Of course spending should be cut drastically, that's a no brainer. I didn't agree with Bush's love of big government either. But please don't lecture me about Bush and the deficit when Obama's very first year deficit is more that all of Dubya's eight years put together.

Innovation is not done through government. In fact, government is one of the least innovative entities ever created. Government is synonymous with inefficiency. Government discourages innovation and healthy risk-taking. Innovation is done through free markets. Henry Ford did not need a government subsidy to develop the assembly line.

And this Cap & Trade stuff is mostly stick and very little carrot. Cost of living will go up drastically across the board. The Carbon Emissions racket will chase industry out of this country and into the Third World where the companies can operate with little interference.

The Health Care legislation is another example of why businesses are uncertain. They just don't know what is going to happen next and a large part of that is the lack of transparency at work right now in the Senate. Manager's Amendment my dimpled ass.

I do agree with you on the TARP money not being used for lending. Many of the larger banks have focused on returning that money with interest as fast as possible. Why? Could it be because the current administration made no secret after the fact that the bailout came with ominous strings attached?

The banks responded by using the money to stabilize and nothing more. I can't say that I blame them.

On the other hand I would have let them fail in the first place.
First off, there shall be no talk of bush here. I'm trying to forget that asshat and I'm definitely not lecturing. I know we pretty much have the same esteem for his presidency....in my case it's somewhere between hemorrhoids and cod-liver oil.

Yes, the driving force behind innovation isn't the government but they do set the tone in a serious way. Just look at how the ban on federal funds for stem cell research basically froze any progress on that front for 8 years. We might have better treatments things like parkinsons disease if it hadn't been for that. You get the best results when scientists, government and the private sector work together. Your absolutely right about the assembly line, but that was breakthrough in management rather than science or technology. Think of microcomputers, atomic energy, the internet, high-speed railways or even highways. All those things happened with some degree of public support and we would be selling ourselves short if we didn't let our taxes fund research by nasa, defense labs, universities or whomever. And beyond that I don't want the government involved in the economy other than setting some basic rules and enforcing contracts.

But the problem is that when our political process is for sale, business and special interest can legally buy off politicians and basically write the laws themselves. This is what's going on but a lot of folks choose to look the other way and decide to chase windmills instead....like the global warming 'hoax', the UN, obama's birth certificate or some 9/11 conspiracy. We both know plenty of people on here to whom this applies.

And healthcare is actually the most blatant example of this! Instead of trying to come up with actual reform that reduces our premiums, insures the uninsured so they don't go to the fucking emergency room for treatment and surgically cuts out the leech on our GDP that is the health insurance industry, we get screwed with a bill that gives these companies them millions of new customers with very little in exchange. I've never heard one reasonable argument for why we shouldn't turn health insurance providers into non-profits, the way germany or the netherlands does. Your health insurance plan IS basically socialized medicine where the healthy balance out the not so healthy. I don't see why anyone should be allowed to be making a profit from it.

And respectfully, I would hate to see what would have happened if we had cut spending and just let the banks fail last year, as you suggest. It would be 1929 all over again. And that's exactly what president mccain would have done...
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
First off, there shall be no talk of bush here. I'm trying to forget that asshat and I'm definitely not lecturing. I know we pretty much have the same esteem for his presidency....in my case it's somewhere between hemorrhoids and cod-liver oil.

Yes, the driving force behind innovation isn't the government but they do set the tone in a serious way. Just look at how the ban on federal funds for stem cell research basically froze any progress on that front for 8 years. We might have better treatments things like parkinsons disease if it hadn't been for that. You get the best results when scientists, government and the private sector work together. Your absolutely right about the assembly line, but that was breakthrough in management rather than science or technology. Think of microcomputers, atomic energy, the internet, high-speed railways or even highways. All those things happened with some degree of public support and we would be selling ourselves short if we didn't let our taxes fund research by nasa, defense labs, universities or whomever. And beyond that I don't want the government involved in the economy other than setting some basic rules and enforcing contracts.

But the problem is that when our political process is for sale, business and special interest can legally buy off politicians and basically write the laws themselves. This is what's going on but a lot of folks choose to look the other way and decide to chase windmills instead....like the global warming 'hoax', the UN, obama's birth certificate or some 9/11 conspiracy. We both know plenty of people on here to whom this applies.

And healthcare is actually the most blatant example of this! Instead of trying to come up with actual reform that reduces our premiums, insures the uninsured so they don't go to the fucking emergency room for treatment and surgically cuts out the leech on our GDP that is the health insurance industry, we get screwed with a bill that gives these companies them millions of new customers with very little in exchange. I've never heard one reasonable argument for why we shouldn't turn health insurance providers into non-profits, the way germany or the netherlands does. Your health insurance plan IS basically socialized medicine where the healthy balance out the not so healthy. I don't see why anyone should be allowed to be making a profit from it.

And respectfully, I would hate to see what would have happened if we had cut spending and just let the banks fail last year, as you suggest. It would be 1929 all over again. And that's exactly what president mccain would have done...
You know abe, we agree on quite a few issues.

Stem cells - ugh! What a horrible decision. I think that was my first real criticism of 'that' administration.

And yes, government can be influential. You mentioned NASA which is an excellent example. Without NASA we would not have solar technology, velcro, or Tang. And all of those were innovations of the private sector. And I think I could make a case for NASA being Constitutional. In fact, I think all of your examples were projects linked to government agencies which were Constitutional.

And personally I would not mind to see a NASA-like effort to get us off of foreign energy in ten years, somewhat akin to President Kennedy's challenge to the nation to send a man to the moon before the 1960's ended. Sort of a Manhattan Project for energy independence, but the funny thing is nobody is really talking seriously about any of that.

I think the problem has more to do with our drift into Corporatism. The free market seems to get squeezed tighter and tighter thanks to taxes and over-regulation, both of which can be influenced through lobbying. When I see fellow members here grousing about greed and capitalism, and you know there some of those here, I know they are actually complaining about Corporatism.

I know my point on TARP is not popular, but I believe we should have let the chips fall. It would have been painful, but we would have come out much better for it. It is very dangerous to reward stupidity, avarice, and incompetence. And for the record, McCain was a leading figure in the bailout scheme which is how he ultimately lost my vote, by the way. If I remember he even suspended his campaign to return to D.C. to take a leading role.
 
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