The great thermite debate.

I love how the airplane wings can sever huge steel girders in the towers, but in the Pentagon they can't even scratch bricks. Not to mention the heaviest hardest most dense part of the Airplane is the Titanium and alloy engines that weigh 6 tons each, they couldn't break those bricks, but they assure us they sever steel like a hot knife through butter.

Then People just don't even acknowledge building 7, nothing to see here, go home watch TV, tell yourself it didn't happen.

NoDrama said:

I love how the airplane wings can sever huge steel girders in the towers, but in the Pentagon they can't even scratch bricks. Not to mention the heaviest hardest most dense part of the Airplane is the Titanium and alloy engines that weigh 6 tons each, they couldn't break those bricks, but they assure us they sever steel like a hot knife through butter.

Then People just don't even acknowledge building 7, nothing to see here, go home watch TV, tell yourself it didn't happen.

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*Sigh*

I am not a believer of the 911 conspiracy theories. That said, there are several questions raised by truthers that remain unanswered. I hope they are someday.

tet1953 said:

I am not a believer of the 911 conspiracy theories. That said, there are several questions raised by truthers that remain unanswered. I hope they are someday.

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When the evidence was Vaporized or buried under millions of tons of Rubble. you can pretty much make up your own "facts" and Conspiracys.

And the Truthers will continue to do so to meet their narrative

dukeanthony said:

When the evidence was Vaporized or buried under millions of tons of Rubble. you can pretty much make up your own "facts" and Conspiracys.

And the Truthers will continue to do so to meet their narrative

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Most of the remains were destroyed during the clean up conducted by our government, why our government would do that to the only evidence of such a personal attack against the US citizens is beyond me..

hazyintentions said:

Most of the remains were destroyed during the clean up conducted by our government, why our government would do that to the only evidence of such a personal attack against the US citizens is beyond me..

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Health Hazard issues, Victim Recovery Efforts?
Maybe the Goverment should of let the remains rot Cordon off the WHole area as a Crime scene and Bring New York to a standstill for several years while conducting an Investigation that
Still would not of been thorough enough in your jaded paranoid eyes

dukeanthony said:

Health Hazard issues, Victim Recovery Efforts?
Maybe the Goverment should of let the remains rot Cordon off the WHole area as a Crime scene and Bring New York to a standstill for several years while conducting an Investigation that
Still would not of been thorough enough in your jaded paranoid eyes

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Health Hazard issues? victim Recovery Efforts?

The remains were shipped off the some land fill ( I believe ) ,the act of lifting them up, putting them in a trailer and shipping them off been enough to satisfy these concerns?
I believe it's partially to blame due to the dis-functionality of our bureaucratic government but to only have 200 pieces left after this disaster for investigation? How can any serious scientific investigation take place with less then .1% of the total building remains?

You so narrowed minded and shut off, you take anything I say to an extreme and consider your rebuttal final when your fail to see that I'm asking these questions out of scientific curiosity and in due process.

So once again, you sir, are a tool.

hazyintentions said:

Health Hazard issues? victim Recovery Efforts?

The remains were shipped off the some land fill ( I believe ) ,the act of lifting them up, putting them in a trailer and shipping them off been enough to satisfy these concerns?
I believe it's partially to blame due to the dis-functionality of our bureaucratic government but to only have 200 pieces left after this disaster for investigation? How can any serious scientific investigation take place with less then .1% of the total building remains?

You so narrowed minded and shut off, you take anything I say to an extreme and consider your rebuttal final when your fail to see that I'm asking these questions out of scientific curiosity and in due process.

So once again, you sir, are a tool.

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so the miles of video that exist showing planes flying into buildings isnt enough scientific eveidence to draw the conclusion that planes smashed into buildings and the ensuing damage, broke the buildings?

or the few thousand people on the highway that watched the plane smash into the pentagon isnt enough to know that a plane smashed into the pentagon?

so they put the debris, remains in a landfill.

tell us what you would suggest we do with a couple of hundred million tons of debris scattered across the most active part of one of the worlds most important cities?

should we have got those sand sifters little children play with at the beach, and sifted through every square inch of debris, looking for clues to build your stupid theory that planes werent responsible for the devastation, even though we watched them, with our own eyes, smash into buildings?

it took a about a year to remove the debris with the worlds largest earth movers. they found lots of human remains, down to pinky fingers, in the largest pile of demolished building ever to be piled up in the history of the world. and you dont think they sifted through them enough?

you people are nuts. seriously, get checked out by a competent professional.

here's a story for you:

my new boss is a retired AF pilot. when he was starting out, he got his pilot's license and after over 700 hours of flight they gave him his first lesson flying a C-5. he's hand flying this thing thinking he's doing a great job and somebody from the back comes in and tells him that everybody's getting sea sick. he was wobbling up and down 200 feet at a time. this was after the USAF cleared him to have enough flying skills to fly a large plane. after he successfully completed ILS training in zero visibility conditions and night flying.

and somehow some arabs who had a hard time flying a cessna flew a large plane at 20 feet at 500 miles per hour perfectly into the pentagon.... give me a break.....

Hey redivider...your 4000th post lol

tet1953 said:

Hey redivider...your 4000th post lol

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3990 being pointless. so only 10 count.

redivider said:

here's a story for you:

my new boss is a retired AF pilot. when he was starting out, he got his pilot's license and after over 700 hours of flight they gave him his first lesson flying a C-5. he's hand flying this thing thinking he's doing a great job and somebody from the back comes in and tells him that everybody's getting sea sick. he was wobbling up and down 200 feet at a time. this was after the USAF cleared him to have enough flying skills to fly a large plane. after he successfully completed ILS training in zero visibility conditions and night flying.

and somehow some arabs who had a hard time flying a cessna flew a large plane at 20 feet at 500 miles per hour perfectly into the pentagon.... give me a break.....

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so all the cell phone calls to relatives that said, "hey mom, a bunch of arabs just cut everyones throat and are now flying the plane i am on"......all those were fake too?

the radar showing the planes flying into buildings and black boxes with the recordings "allah akbar" we faked.

the radio transmissions from the cockpits in heavy arab dialect that said, "hey infidels, we are flying your planes" was fake?

the video from the airports showing muslims with vast ties to terrorists, entering the planes were faked?

the f-16 pilots that followed flight 175 (hit the second tower) were lying.

the couple thousand people who witnessed the planes flying into buildings were coherced?


your "theory" needs a lot of work....

redivider said:

here's a story for you:

my new boss is a retired AF pilot. when he was starting out, he got his pilot's license and after over 700 hours of flight they gave him his first lesson flying a C-5. he's hand flying this thing thinking he's doing a great job and somebody from the back comes in and tells him that everybody's getting sea sick. he was wobbling up and down 200 feet at a time. this was after the USAF cleared him to have enough flying skills to fly a large plane. after he successfully completed ILS training in zero visibility conditions and night flying.

and somehow some arabs who had a hard time flying a cessna flew a large plane at 20 feet at 500 miles per hour perfectly into the pentagon.... give me a break.....

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Got Lucky. Took out a couple of lamp posts also

feff f said:

so all the cell phone calls to relatives that said, "hey mom, a bunch of arabs just cut everyones throat and are now flying the plane i am on"......all those were fake too?

the radar showing the planes flying into buildings and black boxes with the recordings "allah akbar" we faked.

the radio transmissions from the cockpits in heavy arab dialect that said, "hey infidels, we are flying your planes" was fake?

the video from the airports showing muslims with vast ties to terrorists, entering the planes were faked?

the f-16 pilots that followed flight 175 (hit the second tower) were lying.

the couple thousand people who witnessed the planes flying into buildings were coherced?


your "theory" needs a lot of work....

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i said that it's hard to believe somebody who had a hard time flying a small plane flew a large plane at 20 feet for any long distance into the pentagon without crashing it into the ground.

there's a reason the video from the camera at the gas station across the street was confiscated and never released. i want to know why.

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i said that it's hard to believe somebody who had a hard time flying a small plane flew a large plane at 20 feet for any long distance into the pentagon without crashing it into the ground.

there's a reason the video from the camera at the gas station across the street was confiscated and never released. i want to know why.

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Et TU Redivider?

redivider said:

i said that it's hard to believe somebody who had a hard time flying a small plane flew a large plane at 20 feet for any long distance into the pentagon without crashing it into the ground.

there's a reason the video from the camera at the gas station across the street was confiscated and never released. i want to know why.

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was the gas station owned by muslims? there is your answer hehe.

maybe you didnt know this, but 9 am is pretty much rush hour. and thousands of people witnessed the plane coming in low and crashing into the building.

or were you thinking UFO's?

also, i think that olsen chic (ted olsens wife) was one of the people on the pentagon plane. she talked to her husband for quite a while as i recall. maybe even multiple times.

give it up dude. as much as you WOULD LOVE to hear christians did it and GW was the ring leader....they didnt. it was radical muslims, just like the radical muslims said they did it, just like the radical muslims did many times before, and just like the radical muslims have done many times since, for allah, the virgins and all.

blame the radical muslims. thats who did it.

feff f said:

blame the radical muslims. thats who did it.

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Please remember that

feff f said:

also, i think that olsen chic (ted olsens wife) was one of the people on the pentagon plane. she talked to her husband for quite a while as i recall. maybe even multiple times.

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I remember her/them well. I was actually looking this up yesterday. Her name is Barbara Olsen, wife of Ted Olsen, Solicitor General at the time. He also defended Bush at the Supreme Court over the 2000 election.

They spoke by phone twice, for one to two minutes each time. During the second call, Ms. Olsen was informed of the two planes in NY. She did not express panic. The phone went quiet shortly thereafter.

[video=youtube;k0v0_HDwg84]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0v0_HDwg84&feature=player_embedded[/video]

William Rodriguez, 9/11 Hero and the last man out of the Towers, with President George W. Bush at White House award ceremony; with Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad at a private 9/11 presentation.

“There was a huge explosion in the basement—several seconds before the plane hit the tower!”

Richard Roepke
Before It’s News
William “Willy” Rodriguez is the 9/11 hero who helped save hundreds of lives, and the last person to escape alive from the World Trade Center (WTC) Towers.
Inasmuch as the thrust of this narrative is meant to be about the honor, nobleness, and benevolence of heroism, be forewarned.
In its effort to reveal the essential goodness that resides in the hearts of most human beings, it also inexorably exposes the vilest evil that festers in the minds of a few.
Once past the heroism, this story begins to slice through the slimy underbelly of a vile, pathological beast that controls our lives, and gives us glimpses of the innards of this creature that grins gleefully at our gullibility and simple innocence while trampling on our most basic human rights.
This story is a wake-up call to the citizens of planet Earth.

Read more here