The Long March to 11/24

NC Republicans pass new maps that could flip multiple House seats
North Carolina Republicans have approved new maps that could flip multiple House seats in their favor, drawing immediate ire from state Democrats.
The GOP-led state General Assembly passed maps Wednesday that alter the lines for North Carolina’s 14 U.S. House seats, changes that could give Republicans a leg up in defending their House majority in 2024.

“North Carolina Republicans have just enacted one of the most gerrymandered maps in the country,” the National Democratic Redistricting Committee said in a post on X, formerly known as Twitter.
“NC is a 50/50 state — but you wouldn’t know that from looking at the new maps — which cement an illegitimate advantage for the GOP. It’s shameful & undemocratic.”

The Tar Heel State’s congressional delegation is an even split between Democrats and Republicans in the House, but the new maps could help give Republicans the majority of the 14 seats.

Former Rep. Mark Walker (R-N.C.) announced Wednesday that he’d end his bid for governor to make a run to represent North Carolina’s 6th Congressional District after the new maps were approved.
Rep. Jeff Jackson (D-N.C.) called the maps “a brutal gerrymander” when they were unveiled last week. “Just being honest: I’m probably toast in Congress.”

The North Carolina Supreme Court had previously struck down GOP-drawn maps, contending they went against the state constitution’s barring of extensive partisan gerrymandering.

In April, the North Carolina Supreme Court overruled the previous decision, finding that claims of partisan gerrymandering are political questions that cannot be resolved by the state’s courts.

Under North Carolina law, the new maps aren’t subject to a veto from Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper. However, they are likely to be the subject of lawsuits filed in the weeks ahead.

Judge rules Georgia voting maps are discriminatory, must be redrawn
A federal judge struck down Georgia’s Republican-drawn congressional and state legislative maps Thursday, ruling they violated the Voting Rights Act by diluting the power of Black voters.
U.S. District Judge Steve Jones’s ruling gives the state legislature until Dec. 8 to draw new lines before the court will step in to order its own remedial map.

Though Georgia could appeal, the decision paves the way to boost Black voting representation in the Peach State, also potentially aiding Democrats’ attempt to retake the House next year.

“After conducting a thorough and sifting review of the evidence in this case, the Court finds that the State of Georgia violated the Voting Rights Act when it enacted its congressional and legislative maps,” Jones, an Obama appointee, wrote in a 516-page opinion.
“The Court commends Georgia for the great strides that it has made to increase the political opportunities of Black voters in the 58 years since the passage of the Voting Rights Act of 1965,” he continued. “Despite these great gains, the Court determines that in certain areas of the State, the political process is not equally open to Black voters.”

Jones said a remedial map would need to include one additional majority-Black congressional district, two additional majority-Black state senate districts and five additional majority-Black state house districts.
A spokesperson for Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr (R) said the office was reviewing the order and declined further comment.
The ruling follows a roughly two-week bench trial Jones held last month.


Attorneys for various plaintiffs argued Georgia was required to draw additional majority-Black districts under Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, which requires voting maps to provide minority groups with equal opportunity to participate in the political process.
The plaintiffs noted that the state’s Black population had grown significantly since the last redistricting cycle, arguing the map designs had not kept up.

Largely siding with those challengers, Jones specifically found that Georgia’s congressional map diluted the strength of Black voting power in west-metro Atlanta, while the state legislative maps did so in around Atlanta and Macon, Ga.

The case is one of several congressional redistricting battles being litigated in the wake of the Supreme Court’s decision in June concerning Alabama’s map.

The high court in a surprise decision preserved the current scope of the Voting Rights Act by striking down the Republican-led state’s congressional map. It ultimately led to the implementation of a map that nearly added another majority-Black district.
On similar grounds, voting rights and racial justice advocates have been challenging other Republican-drawn maps across the south in states like Louisiana and Arkansas.

Let's talk about some economic news and a message....

DIY-HP-LED said:

Let's talk about some economic news and a message....

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ROFL

"When you see headlines that are unbelievable - don't believe them." - Beau

GenericEnigma said:

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"When you see headlines that are unbelievable - don't believe them." - Beau

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His thing is sucking in magats and converting them from heathens with common sense and facts, his good ole boy image gets em every time. You can tell he is reaching them because his maga mail keeps increasing and has become material for his videos.

DIY-HP-LED said:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717979627917119844

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I don't believe it. Maybe his crowds are down. Maybe he's sounding unhinged to them. There is nothing he can do to dissuade them from voting for him. He could murder his wife and kids and they'd still stick with him, saying it's fake news.

topcat said:

I don't believe it. Maybe his crowds are down. Maybe he's sounding unhinged to them. There is nothing he can do to dissuade them from voting for him. He could murder his wife and kids and they'd still stick with him, saying it's fake news.

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While I do tend to agree...I think his particular hold is faltering. The just being a fuckin dick shtick is here to stay, he transformed the party and who is running the show, but trump himself is faltering.

Still baffles me that the epitome of NYC douchebags convinced a bunch of pissed off white trash to back him, but here we are.

Trump is going to fail bigly as the 2024 candidate, but that brand of politics is here to stay. It's making me look hard at fleeing to Canada or Europe.

topcat said:

I don't believe it. Maybe his crowds are down. Maybe he's sounding unhinged to them. There is nothing he can do to dissuade them from voting for him. He could murder his wife and kids and they'd still stick with him, saying it's fake news.

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I hope so, after he is disqualified, they can write him in and should be encouraged to do so. I figure no matter what happens he will own 30% of the GOP base until they die but will be speaking to visitors through glass on a phone, except for his lawyers. The ride for the GOP house is about to begin, his disqualification trial begins on Monday in Colorado, and it should be on TV with a call by thanksgiving. Donald will be losing his money in NY around then too. He could be jailed in DC and freaking out demanding they impeach Chutkan. At some point during his trials and convictions they will have to throw Donald under the bus.

topcat said:

I don't believe it. Maybe his crowds are down. Maybe he's sounding unhinged to them. There is nothing he can do to dissuade them from voting for him. He could murder his wife and kids and they'd still stick with him, saying it's fake news.

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Wait for the disqualification trial starting next week, I doubt the Colorado supreme court will reverse it and neither will the SCOTUS in early December. That will change everything and make it a lot easier for Chutkan to jail Trump in DC when politics is no longer a factor. Colorado is the first and most important case IMO and will determine if Trump ends up in a DC jail pretrial and is out of the GOP primaries.

I can see the reporters questions on meet the press in a couple of months:

"Mr. Speaker, now that Mr. Trump has been disqualified do you agree with the decision of the SCOTUS that he should be disqualified"? SHUTUP!

Who will you be endorsing for the nomination now that Mr. Trump is out of the primaries"? SHUTUP!

Will you support Mr. Trump's write in campaign for the republican nomination in defiance of the SCOTUS"? SHUTUP!

Will you impeach judge Chutkan as Mr. Trump demands?" SHUTUP!

"Will you visit Mr. Trump in the DC jail"? SHUTUP!

Did president Biden win the 2020 election"? SHUTUP!

If Biden is doing this because the democrats changed their primary order, what will Trump do if he is disqualified by the SCOTUS? He will command 30% of the GOP base even from a prison cell and if he is disqualified from their primaries and out of jail, will Trump run a write in campaign and attack the GOP nominee? No politics, no more grift from his base of suckers and Donald might soon be desperate for money, depending on how much NY takes him for.

Republicans' Speaker choice suddenly BACKFIRES in brutal fashion

MAGA Group FACES THE HEAT of Federal Judge, MASSIVE RULING Incoming

Voting rights and MAGA voter intimidation campaigns led by squads to stop democrats from voting in 2024 hangs in the balance in a Georgia federal trial that started this week. Michael Popok of Legal AF explores what could happen if the progressive organization “Fair Fight” loses its VOTING RIGHTS ACT case to stop voter suppression against MAGA, right wing, voter intimidation organization Texas based-“True the Vote” in a Georgia courthouse.

Running with a promise to “spoil” the 2024 presidential contest, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. just received a sign that he might be making good on that pitch: A recent poll shows him with 22 percent support in a hypothetical three-way race against President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump.

Biden, by contrast, would take 39 percent of the vote, and Trump would come away with 36 percent, according to the Quinnipiac University’s survey. In another positive sign for Kennedy, he came away with the backing of a plurality of independents: 36 percent chose him, compared with 31 percent for Trump and 30 percent for Biden.

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Spoiler alert? Poll has RFK Jr. grabbing 22 percent against Biden and Trump

The former Democratic candidate also got the backing of a plurality of independents in the Quinnipiac University survey.

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Running with a promise to “spoil” the 2024 presidential contest, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. just received a sign that he might be making good on that pitch: A recent poll shows him with 22 percent support in a hypothetical three-way race against President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump.

Biden, by contrast, would take 39 percent of the vote, and Trump would come away with 36 percent, according to the Quinnipiac University’s survey. In another positive sign for Kennedy, he came away with the backing of a plurality of independents: 36 percent chose him, compared with 31 percent for Trump and 30 percent for Biden.

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Opinion polls taken a year before the election do not have the weight this clickbait article suggests it does.

Fogdog said:

Opinion polls taken a year before the election do not have the weight this clickbait article suggests it does.

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It is early, but if Trump is disqualified, he could end up causing more damage to the republicans than the democrats when the election does roll around. I think we will have to wait and see if the SCOTUS disqualifies Trump and see how it shakes out on the republican side with Trump gone. As it stands now, he could be disqualified, broke and in jail pretrial by the time the primaries begin.

DIY-HP-LED said:

It is early, but if Trump is disqualified, he could end up causing more damage to the republicans than the democrats when the election does roll around. I think we will have to wait and see if the SCOTUS disqualifies Trump and see how it shakes out on the republican side with Trump gone. As it stands now, he could be disqualified, broke and in jail pretrial by the time the primaries begin.

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You live in if land. You make this way too complicated. The only poll that matters is an election poll. Trump lost the last election and Trump-GOP MAGA have done nothing to win over those who voted for Biden.

Fogdog said:

You live in if land. You make this way too complicated. The only poll that matters is an election poll. Trump lost the last election and Trump-GOP MAGA have done nothing to win over those who voted for Biden.

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We are coming up on a couple of major decision points, the first being disqualification and the second Trump being cleaned out in NY. He could also be jailed before trial this spring. Some of those if's could be answered soon, since he has disqualification trials ongoing and is pissing off the judge in NY. It is a match up we are unlikely to see and certainly not worth the risk to see if the voting public really is that stupid!

DIY-HP-LED said:

We are coming up on a couple of major decision points, the first being disqualification and the second Trump being cleaned out in NY. He could also be jailed before trial this spring. Some of those if's could be answered soon, since he has disqualification trials ongoing and is pissing off the judge in NY. It is a match up we are unlikely to see and certainly not worth the risk to see if the voting public really is that stupid!

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I see the disqualification trial as something separate from the click bait poll you posted earlier. We are seeing history being made in the disqualification trial. It is the first time that the 14th amendment has been tested to determine if it may be used to disqualify a candidate from running for president. So, yes, it's important. I think it will set an important precedent that should be reviewed by the SCOTUS and either struck down or confirmed. Personally, I'm of two minds on this matter. I agree with those who say it is the electorate who should decide who should be prez. On the other hand, I agree with the people who wrote that clause in the 14th that reasonably prevents a person who violated their oath to protect the Constitution from holding an office that is empowered by the Constitution. This is a sensible measure and ensures the continuance of our Constitutional Republic.

Yes, things look bad for Trump. Yes he could be cleaned out by being held accountable for fraud that netted him hundreds of millions of profit from lower interest rates than he would not have received had he submitted honest statements to banks. Yes he should be held accountable for trying to overthrow the election. But at this time, whether or not he can be disqualified from holding any office in government, from President to dog catcher remains to be seen. We are seeing history being made here and we are only spectators, not deciders. I am fascinated by what is going on and agree that the result will be monumental regardless what is decided. There is no need to follow our thoughts down rabbit holes into "if land" where speculation is based on something that has yet to be realized.