The Nature Farm Genetics, is he legit?

MyBallzItch

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Did he take your money for seeds he doesn't have?
Sure sounds like it. Given that buddy PayPal him the funds, right? Was this a dd or something u bought thru website. I suppose I could understand if he just didn't have his inventory lined up or whatever. Still should have taken the 30 second and responded to him. Or better yet when tnf saw guy paid for something he didn't have... Reach out to him
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Take this however you want, but two weeks is a far cry from a scam. It took about a month to get my seeds. Not a huge deal. Before you start calling people liars, consider how your reaction comes off. Patience Sensei?
If someone pays instantly via electronic payments waiting 2 weeks to ship out is total unacceptable. Especially $190 order.

Unless you let customers know before they paid you that they'd have to wait weeks for you to get off your lazy butt to ship.

Just my opinion
 

5dekades

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hey we had to wait a while for them to ship (like a week or so), they got lost in the mail, but he did replace them!! (this was last nov-dec)
and i know there were tons of fires in his area..... so he seems totally legit, shit happens..he didn't have to replace em but he did....(i got some PM probs but other than that the stuff seems like old school stuff, will def post after i get some buds)
 
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rlslmshdy

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I read to page 7 jumped page 35. I wasnt reading 36 pages of grown men running this guys name in the dirt.
I cant speak for him. I dont know him. I had ordered. 9 seed packets from 3 seedbanks for my first grow. From when I decided to grow my own. Ive only really started enjoying weed since August. Anyways didnt take me long to learn that buying in DC getting shit but paying top shelf prices. That i was growing my own. I was gonna do my best to grow the best bud I could. Well I found KNF growing method. Before I found natural farmer and saw he used that method. But first I found Dominion. Soon as I learned of his genetics I knew. I was using these. Then I found this guy. But I thought the guy was doing us a favor. What mean is. He prob is still working the line further. But figured MOST of like me would benefit from these still better plants. So he offered up seeds. Even though he isn't finished. Not hating Dominion but I think I heard him say he's working but won't release until he's found RKS. Well hell as hard n rare as it seems to find. That might be 20 years from now lol. Id rather be able go ahead at least get better plants. While he continues working it further.
Also when I first saw RKS mentioned several weeks. I thought it mean really strong smelling weed. Smelling close to skunk. I never dreamed it really meant 100% like real road killed skunk. I live in rural appalachian mountians. We see n occasionally hit a road kill skunk quite often. That really can almost gag me. I still find it hard to believe it smells that bad. If yall grew that in your house/basement for 50-70 days. I wanna how you lived in your damn house. I mean SERIOUSLY. Not being a dick. But really running over a fresh one seriously. No way I'm living with that smell for 50 days. I cant remember back 20 years ago. Everyone looks back 30-40 years ago more fondly than it was. For example 30 years ago. I remember going Pizza hut being like being this special event. I remember it being the most incredible thing. About once a year. Ill want to relive that experience. Takes me one bite to realize that was rose colored glasses. Im not saying yall aren't right but man that's nasty smelling lol. That said the way yall bitching n moaning. I want it bad hahahahha.
 

rlslmshdy

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me and a friend split some nature farm packs, uncle festers, grade A, guapo, and khyber... seems like they are all males out of about 2 dozen, and super bad powdery mildew.... but they do look old school to me.. crazy ribbed stems and stem rub smell ....
anybody else have a super bad PM problem runnin these??
Serious question. No disrespect intended. Im soon starting my first grow. Im trying learn. I thought powdery mildew was result of grower not seeds. I mean like tomatoes. A cultivar might be more susceptible but still my fault as grower if my plant has a problem. Am wrong in this thinking. Is growing weed different.
 

MyBallzItch

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Serious question. No disrespect intended. Im soon starting my first grow. Im trying learn. I thought powdery mildew was result of grower not seeds. I mean like tomatoes. A cultivar might be more susceptible but still my fault as grower if my plant has a problem. Am wrong in this thinking. Is growing weed different.
I think you kind of answered your own question. Pm isn't coming from the seeds but "a cultivar might be more susceptible" is the theory. If the same strain is a pm magnets in separate locations/environments then you could start to infer the "cultivar might be more susceptible" in some ways due to no "fault" of the grower.
 

Dawgfunk

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Serious question. No disrespect intended. Im soon starting my first grow. Im trying learn. I thought powdery mildew was result of grower not seeds. I mean like tomatoes. A cultivar might be more susceptible but still my fault as grower if my plant has a problem. Am wrong in this thinking. Is growing weed different.
From what I’ve gathered, powdery mildew is a fungus and can infect a plant and lie dormant until the right environment causes it to bloom. Not sure what would cause the plant to be more susceptable, maybe leaf surface or genetic predisposition but I do know a lot comes down to humidity, air flow and temperature, and if it’s around and your plants are in the wrong environment, it will take over. Honestly, it doesn’t even matter if your temps are cranked up to the 90s, your humidity just better be up in the 80% range(sounds crazy, right?!)!! Temp’s in the 60’s, drop that humidity down so they can breathe. As long as that plant is able to transpire and you do some preventatives, PM should be nearly nonexistent. Here’s a VPN chart that covers the range of temp vs humidity for optimum plants. Makes sense why sometimes the fall plants that get rained on tend to do fine all the way thru finish. https://www.perfectgrower.com/knowledge/knowledge-base/vpd-chart-vapor-pressure-deficit/
 

5dekades

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Serious question. No disrespect intended. Im soon starting my first grow. Im trying learn. I thought powdery mildew was result of grower not seeds. I mean like tomatoes. A cultivar might be more susceptible but still my fault as grower if my plant has a problem. Am wrong in this thinking. Is growing weed different.
i have found it to be a combo of both the genetics and the grower. but the old strains from the 80's and 90's NEVER HAD PM, EVER. I never even knew about it till the past few years. but those genetics were from OUTDOOR plants brought inside for the first time, not grown in closets for 20 years. i have a few strains that are hybrids of new and old with zero PM and I've had a few newer strains that i ran at 72-75 degrees with 35% humidity (after having higher humidity like 50-60%)that i eventually gave up because of the PM (while some others had no PM), some dudes might like spraying stuff all over them, but i would rather have strains that don't get PM
 
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DotCom

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i have found it to be a combo of both the genetics and the grower. but the old strains from the 80's and 90's NEVER HAD PM, EVER. I never even knew about it till the past few years. but those genetics were from OUTDOOR plants brought inside for the first time, not grown in closets for 20 years. i have a few strains that are hybrids of new and old with zero PM and I've had a few newer strains that i ran at 72-75 degrees with 35% humidity (after having higher humidity like 50-60%)that i eventually gave up because of the PM (while some others had no PM), some dudes might like spraying stuff all over them, but i would rather have strains that don't get PM
Hey man it's weird to read because I just noticed the smallest amount of pm on my 2020 stuff from tnf. But also this time of year with it being cold out my area gets pretty chilly possibly low 60s to high 50s and can sometimes hit low 80s when appollo drags the sun out of the outlet humidity does quite the dance herself. I was always of the school of thought to not have large spreads of humidity and temp for an indoor set up from lights on and off. I personally am 100% sure it is my environment but wanted to share all the same. This is the first bit of pm I have ever seen in my garden, and I have been growing his gear since 2018. I really think you should double check your environment and some pm threads to double check yourself.
 

5dekades

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Hey man it's weird to read because I just noticed the smallest amount of pm on my 2020 stuff from tnf. But also this time of year with it being cold out my area gets pretty chilly possibly low 60s to high 50s and can sometimes hit low 80s when appollo drags the sun out of the outlet humidity does quite the dance herself. I was always of the school of thought to not have large spreads of humidity and temp for an indoor set up from lights on and off. I personally am 100% sure it is my environment but wanted to share all the same. This is the first bit of pm I have ever seen in my garden, and I have been growing his gear since 2018. I really think you should double check your environment and some pm threads to double check yourself.
hey hey, i guess I didn't explain it right, I'm not a newbie to the game. I know how to deal with modern strains when it comes to the environment. What i was hoping for with the old genetics was way less problems, especially PM. The OLD genetics i ran years ago never had PM, never had to spray for PM. they were genetics from around the world, USA from "the south", cali, BC, Missouri, even ran some real aphgani and thai and hawaiian, even some Dutch.... indoor and out. Some of the southern stuff (skunk) i would grow until it snowed out with no probs no PM.
the nature farm stuff i had in the perfect environment for modern strains (like 72-75 degrees and around 50% humidity) other plants were in there with no probs (even a strain that is killer but gets PM) and they were getting covered in PM, i tried dropping the humidity and it helped a lil.
So the stuff looks and def smells like some old school stuff, but i was surprised that it got PM so bad..(even in same room as the others having no PM)
 

Bakersfield

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hey hey, i guess I didn't explain it right, I'm not a newbie to the game. I know how to deal with modern strains when it comes to the environment. What i was hoping for with the old genetics was way less problems, especially PM. The OLD genetics i ran years ago never had PM, never had to spray for PM. they were genetics from around the world, USA from "the south", cali, BC, Missouri, even ran some real aphgani and thai and hawaiian, even some Dutch.... indoor and out. Some of the southern stuff (skunk) i would grow until it snowed out with no probs no PM.
the nature farm stuff i had in the perfect environment for modern strains (like 72-75 degrees and around 50% humidity) other plants were in there with no probs (even a strain that is killer but gets PM) and they were getting covered in PM, i tried dropping the humidity and it helped a lil.
So the stuff looks and def smells like some old school stuff, but i was surprised that it got PM so bad..(even in same room as the others having no PM)
I believe there are killer strains of PM floating around now that weren't around back in the day.
No Russet mites or dudding back then either.
 

Kaliko

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I had 1 plant by him that I was sure was gonna be skunky. Once I cut it down the skunk was long gone. I have grown coffin skunk , unclefesters skunk18 , and carriin flower all of which were supposed to be live skunk n meat blah ,blah fuckin blah. Fruity skunk 1 knock off bullshit as far as I can see. Thia dude might have had a plant that wasn't in phylos but even phylos was a terrible company full of lies. Unfortunately there is no RKS. You could find something sort of skunky in just about any gassy strain if you pop enough but roadkill ,stinks from a block away skunk is not in the nature farms gear for sure.
 

Dawgfunk

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I had 1 plant by him that I was sure was gonna be skunky. Once I cut it down the skunk was long gone. I have grown coffin skunk , unclefesters skunk18 , and carriin flower all of which were supposed to be live skunk n meat blah ,blah fuckin blah. Fruity skunk 1 knock off bullshit as far as I can see. Thia dude might have had a plant that wasn't in phylos but even phylos was a terrible company full of lies. Unfortunately there is no RKS. You could find something sort of skunky in just about any gassy strain if you pop enough but roadkill ,stinks from a block away skunk is not in the nature farms gear for sure.
He did claim he doesn’t have the roadkill. But I wonder if harvest window has something to do with where the skunk really comes thru in the cured flower. The dogwalker has a pretty big harvest window, but there’s only a small window when you wanna pull it and get that pure skunk out of it. Maybe if you ran a room of that skunky one, and pulled in succession, maybe you could find where that skunk is. But I feel you, sometimes it’s there, and you just know it’s skunk, and then harvest and no skunk. I’m gonna pop his 2020 uncle fester skunkbud selection and see how those turn out. skunk or not, all of tnf’s stuff has been super happy, stoney as a dabby duck. cuts thru and settles in when the other strains aren’t working.
 

5dekades

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I had 1 plant by him that I was sure was gonna be skunky. Once I cut it down the skunk was long gone. I have grown coffin skunk , unclefesters skunk18 , and carriin flower all of which were supposed to be live skunk n meat blah ,blah fuckin blah. Fruity skunk 1 knock off bullshit as far as I can see. Thia dude might have had a plant that wasn't in phylos but even phylos was a terrible company full of lies. Unfortunately there is no RKS. You could find something sort of skunky in just about any gassy strain if you pop enough but roadkill ,stinks from a block away skunk is not in the nature farms gear for sure.
Hey i grew the real deal over 20+years ago, i had about 5 diff SKUNK varieties from diff places. my main one that was from "down south" stunk from miles away (outdoor) and almost as bad indoor (ionizers was the only way, no super close neighbors etc)
but after you cut it it would smell more like freshly mown lawn mixed with tomato plant, then cure it for at least 2-3 months and the stink came back.... also i noticed stuff would be WAY skunkier with organic fertilizers, and also it the plant got pollinated
 

5dekades

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He did claim he doesn’t have the roadkill. But I wonder if harvest window has something to do with where the skunk really comes thru in the cured flower. The dogwalker has a pretty big harvest window, but there’s only a small window when you wanna pull it and get that pure skunk out of it. Maybe if you ran a room of that skunky one, and pulled in succession, maybe you could find where that skunk is. But I feel you, sometimes it’s there, and you just know it’s skunk, and then harvest and no skunk. I’m gonna pop his 2020 uncle fester skunkbud selection and see how those turn out. skunk or not, all of tnf’s stuff has been super happy, stoney as a dabby duck. cuts thru and settles in when the other strains aren’t working.
i always remember drying whole plants (like the dudes did that i got seeds from) i dried for a week then cut long colas, left the big stem where it was kinda moist, and cured for months to bring the skunk back.......i maybe burped for a week at the most then just left in a bag to cure
 

5dekades

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oh and i grew the skunk in hydro and in dirt with synthetic nutrients and there was a big difference in stink and taste compared to organic bat guano fish crap worm tea etc.......same as skunk outdoor dudes i knew, they used horseshit and cow and chicken shit etc......
 

Dawgfunk

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yea man the organics really help bring it to fruition from what I’ve noticed. And definitely the cure. I’m still getting the daggone cure down. Was good this time but still ended up with a flavor that definitely came from leaving it in those paper sacks for too long. Seems like the totes method works just fine, may just get a few smaller totes for this next run instead of dealing with flipping paper bags. Yall ever cure in paper bag/contractor bags? I’ve had old timers tell me it’s the best way if you do it right.
 

5dekades

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yea man the organics really help bring it to fruition from what I’ve noticed. And definitely the cure. I’m still getting the daggone cure down. Was good this time but still ended up with a flavor that definitely came from leaving it in those paper sacks for too long. Seems like the totes method works just fine, may just get a few smaller totes for this next run instead of dealing with flipping paper bags. Yall ever cure in paper bag/contractor bags? I’ve had old timers tell me it’s the best way if you do it right.
hey man! the way i used to do it: was cut whole plant, hang upside down to dry usually 7 days, then cut the long buds/colas and put in gallon ziploc bags, maybe open them once a day for a minute for the first week then i just left them alone.... that was it. The hardest part is not smoking it for 3-6 months.
I've seen friends do a carboard box for a few weeks or other weird shit and it always seemed like their stuff burnt like shit (would turn black and not burn right).
maybe if the stuff seemed to dry in the curing period i would put pieces of broke terra cotta pots soaked in water for a few days in the bags to keep it from drying out too much, but that old schools stuff was "oily" and sticky so didn't dry out same way this new stuff
 
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