The perfect child

Hepheastus420 · May 31, 2012

Urca said:
in this situation, there would be no choice. it would kind of happen naturally, with a large group of people interbreeding and being watered down, centralizing disease within this population.
It'd make a fabulous book, enough to compete with huxley

Fuck.. I wish I could remember the name of this awesome book I read. I think it was fahrenheit (then some random number).. It's the same author as the guy that wrote the book called "the devils of loudun"... You'd love it as it goes through the very scenario you're giving us. He's a very bitter and honest guy.. I love him.

Hepheastus420 · May 31, 2012

RainbowBrite86 said:
I wouldn't want to engineer my child. Just because it would always be in the back of my head - what would my child have been like if I hadn't tampered with their DNA? It just doesn't feel right on a moral level.

Well couldn't you ask yourself "what would they have been like if I tampered with their genetics"? I bet if you had a suicidal child (I'm not saying you do.. I hope the best for your children), you'd love for them to not think that way.

Red1966 · May 31, 2012

Hepheastus420 said:
How would it matter to them? The rich could make them the happiest slaves ever. We are already slaves to the rich.. now imagine being happier. Inferior.. Like I said it would be in your eyes who's inferior.. On a more grand scale the masses would pick and choose who's inferior or not. But that's already happening anyways. I didn't say it would justify it.. I said they would be dickheads.. Read my posts more carefully.

Keep 'em happy down on the plantation? You are definitely not a slave, to the rich or anyone else. You know you're parroting the arguments for enslavement from ages ago. "Our slaves are happy and well cared for. They are happier because we make all the hard decisions for them. They're lessor than we, so we have the right, no, duty to put them to good use."

Urca · May 31, 2012

farenheit 451?
i think you're thinking of a brave new world.
farenheit 451 shows the impact of media and etc on society, a lessening of intelligence and rules

Fungus Gnat · May 31, 2012

Winter Woman said:
Urca, Urca, Urca, do you really believe that line you are trying to sell? Are you saying that a woman would allow herself to be a host for a corporation to have a worker bee for money???

Women already do that in capitalist society their children are turned into products of society for which they are never compensated for :O

Hepheastus420 · May 31, 2012

doc111 said:
I never said they should. To "fear" is human. It helps keep us safe from danger. Don't get me wrong, I love science. I have an advanced degree in chemistry and am not against progress or anything like that. However, considering the risk factors whenever altering the natural order in such ways is of utmost importance. Our very survival as a species MAY depend on it! Splitting the atom opened up the possibilities of producing relatively cheap energy for the world. That same technology also gave us perhaps our best method to destroy ourselves. Understanding this and recognizing it is as important as progress if not moreso. It's counterproductive to take a step forward only to find we've fallen back 5.

Yeah I know all of this.. that's the reason I would like for scientists to not fuck with our nice natural evloution. And a degree in chemistry? Bravo dude bravo

. I'd like to be that smart someday lol.

Winter Woman · May 31, 2012

RainbowBrite86 said:
I have never seen this side of you...

Hot.

I'm not rich, very far from it. But I absolutely hate classism and that's what I see coming from Urca. I hate it when it goes in either direction.

The rich that I worked for are very giving people. They give and do it anonymously. Do you know 'Just Call Sam' the lawyer? He gives BIG time. More than a few dozen of me can earn in a year and no one knows. To think that they want to harm or injure anyone is beyond anything I can comprehend.

RainbowBrite86 · May 31, 2012

Hepheastus420 said:
Well couldn't you ask yourself "what would they have been like if I tampered with their genetics"? I bet if you had a suicidal child (I'm not saying you do.. I hope the best for your children), you'd love for them to not think that way.

You seem very focused on depression and suicide issues and i'm growing concerned about it. At any rate, i'd rather my children be natural. They're human, and it's OK for them to be imperfect. Personally, I think if a child feels like they were specially engineered for perfection, they'd be more likely to develop depression simply because they might never "measure up" to the expectations set for them.

Hepheastus420 · May 31, 2012

Urca said:
farenheit 451?
i think you're thinking of a brave new world.
farenheit 451 shows the impact of media and etc on society, a lessening of intelligence and rules

lol good job on making me look stupid hehe

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Urca · May 31, 2012

Winter Woman said:
I'm not rich, very far from it. But I absolutely hate classism and that's what I see coming from Urca. I hate it when it goes in either direction.

The rich that I worked for are very giving people. They give and do it anonymously. Do you know 'Just Call Sam' the lawyer? He gives BIG time. More than a few dozen of me can earn in a year and no one knows. To think that they want to harm or injure anyone is beyond anything I can comprehend.

classism? i was just stating something that could hypothetically happen, i have no problem with rich people. they earned what they got. but im not talking about the people you know. im talking about hypothetical people in a world where genetic engineering is possible, and the possible outcomes. stop attacking me for "not having my own opinions, being classist, etc."

RainbowBrite86 · May 31, 2012

Urca said:
classism? i was just stating something that could hypothetically happen, i have no problem with rich people. they earned what they got. but im not talking about the people you know. im talking about hypothetical people in a world where genetic engineering is possible, and the possible outcomes. stop attacking me for "not having my own opinions, being classist, etc."

Oh God she's "being attacked" again.

Urca · May 31, 2012

this has nothing to do with you.

Winter Woman · May 31, 2012

Urca said:
in this situation, there would be no choice. it would kind of happen naturally, with a large group of people interbreeding and being watered down, centralizing disease within this population.
It'd make a fabulous book, enough to compete with huxley

Think about what you said. Now think about how many people are in the world. Now think about what you said.

Large pool of people (the whole world) and interbreeding and watering down?

Centralizing disease? Among a few billion people.

It would make a good book.

Hepheastus420 · May 31, 2012

RainbowBrite86 said:
You seem very focused on depression and suicide issues and i'm growing concerned about it. At any rate, i'd rather my children be natural. They're human, and it's OK for them to be imperfect. Personally, I think if a child feels like they were specially engineered for perfection, they'd be more likely to develop depression simply because they might never "measure up" to the expectations set for them.

lol don't bring my emotions into this.. uncalled for. It is perfectly fine for them to be imperfect. If I had the money to control my child I think I'd choose to have a natural child. I don't know why though.

But no.. They wouldn't develop depression that easily since they wouldn't have certain traits that cause depression. Expectations? Nobody is putting expectations on them. I said on the first page that they'd still have challenges and emotions. I wouldn't push my son to be the next president lol.

Hepheastus420 · May 31, 2012

BTW now you know what I meant by opening up just a little bit rainbow.. You have already used my psychology against me.

RainbowBrite86 · May 31, 2012

Urca said:
this has nothing to do with you.

And I wasn't talking to you. That's why the pronoun "she" was used. :roll:

Carry on, victim. Carry on.

Urca · May 31, 2012

Winter Woman said:
Think about what you said. Now think about how many people are in the world. Now think about what you said.

Large pool of people (the whole world) and interbreeding and watering down?

Centralizing disease? Among a few billion people.

It would make a good book.

i never said it was realistic, just conjecture. based off of discussions ive had in class. i do think there are ethical issues, but the whole dominating upper class is just speculation

Winter Woman · May 31, 2012

Urca said:
the rich would have the engineered babies, the poor would breed inferior babies, fuck, they could even have certain genes introduced into their gene pool.

Like the gene to end sickle cell anemia among black people

RainbowBrite86 · May 31, 2012

Hepheastus420 said:
BTW now you know what I meant by opening up just a little bit rainbow.. You have already used my psychology against me.

No no noooo not at all Hep. I am genuinely concerned when anyone mentions suicide so many times. But we won't discuss it here in the open.

Red1966 · May 31, 2012

Hepheastus420 said:
Fuck.. I wish I could remember the name of this awesome book I read. I think it was fahrenheit (then some random number).. It's the same author as the guy that wrote the book called "the devils of loudun"... You'd love it as it goes through the very scenario you're giving us. He's a very bitter and honest guy.. I love him.

Fahrenheit 451. Supposedly the temp that paper burns.

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