Brick Top
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I think just having someone think of it and then conjuring up the mental image of it is more than gay enough.
The police have a a new canabis detection device.
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I think just having someone think of it and then conjuring up the mental image of it is more than gay enough.
Burger Boss
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BINGO! There it is.......I knew from 4 seconds into post #1 that this was "April Fools!"..........I can't believe some of the comments made in here.........you people scare the hell outta me!.......BB
luckandleather
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I'm not a gangster, I'm a peaceful citizen who has a right to protect herself, with deadly force.
Brick Top
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Do you want something true to be scared about? A while back I was watching a show about new military equipment and thermal-imaging sites have been designed for the military where they can look at a THICK concrete or stone or block wall and clearly make out the image of a person behind it ... and I am talking about THICK walls.
If something like that gets into the hands of the cozzers, and if they could use it without a warrant, they could scan a house from top to bottom and there would be no hiding anything and use what they found to get a warrant. Hopefully if they ever get the technology they will have to have a warrant first to be able to use it.
But that is real ... and it might be in our future ... in time anyway.
If something like that gets into the hands of the cozzers, and if they could use it without a warrant, they could scan a house from top to bottom and there would be no hiding anything and use what they found to get a warrant. Hopefully if they ever get the technology they will have to have a warrant first to be able to use it.
But that is real ... and it might be in our future ... in time anyway.
Burger Boss
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And a lovely cold shower of reality, thanks Brick.
HAPPY APRIL 1st ALL......and now back to the "fort", wink-wink..........BB
HAPPY APRIL 1st ALL......and now back to the "fort", wink-wink..........BB
WeeGogs
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i want some of what you and brick have been smoking, an xray machine uses radiation to look in to a human stomach for packages, you can barely see them, there is a certain amount of risk to the operator and the patient if you two think you can see through an 8" concrete wall with a thermal imaging equipment i think you will be disapointed, this is laughable if not hilarious propaganda i watched the programme and it was a machine that they used with a high sound pick up device that could pick up the direction a bullet was fired from as it whizzed by right down to the nearest metre, so they could acurately pinpoint where someone was hiding inside a building, you two are a couple of clowns. and the troops are hard pushed to get protective clothing never mind gadgets that are from a scientific movie, if someone is hiding in a plastic wheelie bin the internal space of the bin heats up so the plastic surface starts to glow as it heats up, if you can heat up 8 " thick concrete so it can see you through it your new name on here is microwave.
Brick Top
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What I saw was not false, it was not propaganda, it is real .. but it is military technology, not police. Thermal imaging has become so advanced that through thick concrete or stone or block walls a clear heat signature can be detected, including say if someone has a recently fired weapon in their hands that would still be warm to hot.
On the same show they told about the latest in body armor that is made from artificial spider thread/web that is considerably more protective than Kevlar and something like 10 times the protective capability of steel, but is very lightweight.
It was all very interesting .... and it was all totally real.
Brick Top
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There are also other things currently in use. The Feds asked for micro-drones for anti-terrorism surveillance. I saw a fake hummingbird that looks and flies like a hummingbird that can land on a windowsill and check out what is going on inside. Other similar drones are being produced and even smaller ones are being worked on.
Once in the hands of the DEA and other law enforcement agencies, and altered for other uses, like sniffing for terpenoids rather than explosives, imagine how intrusive the federal government, and even state and local law enforcement, could easily become.
This stuff is not science fiction and it is not an April's Fool joke either. It is real and it is our future.
How Close Are We to a Nano-based Surveillance State? How Close Are We to a Nano-based Surveillance State?
Michael Edwards
Activist Post
In the span of just three years, we have seen drone surveillance become openly operational on American soil.
In 2007, Texas reporters first filmed a predator drone test being conducted by the local police department in tandem with Homeland Security. And in 2009, it was revealed that an operation was underway to use predator drones inland over major cities, far from "border control" functions. This year it has been announced that not only will drone operations fly over the Mexican border, but the United States and Canada are partnering to cover 900 miles of the northern border as well.
Now that the precedent has been set to employ drones over non-combat areas, the military is further revealing the technology of miniaturization that they currently have at their disposal. As drone expert, P.W. Singer said, "At this point, it doesn't really matter if you are against the technology, because it's coming." According to Singer, "The miniaturization of drones is where it really gets interesting. You can use these things anywhere, put them anyplace, and the target will never even know they're being watched."
So what exactly is on the horizon?
The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) funds military tech development through the private sector with defense contractors such as Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and Honeywell. It was Honeywell that introduced the T-Hawk micro drone -- now purchased by Miami-Dade county for use in the metro area -- which weighs all of 16 pounds and can fly in any direction. However, this is not so "micro" compared to the latest spy drone to be revealed: the Nano Hummingbird, produced by AeroVironment. The video below illustrates the capabilities of this 19g vehicle:
YouTube - AeroVironment's Nano Hummingbird - Outdoor Indoor Flight
Activist Post: How Close Are We to a Nano-based Surveillance State?
This mimicking of nature heralds a range of science fiction nightmare scenarios, but the name of this vehicle, "nano", is what should spark a red alert. Because, in fact, DARPA and their contractors are working on true nano surveillance that will have biological components . . . and applications.
Here are some surveillance and detection concepts already in operation, or under development (keeping in mind that what is revealed in the public domain is often quite far behind the reality):
* A group of smaller surveillance drones called NAV (nano air vehicles) or MAV (micro air vehicles) already have been commissioned: mapleseed drones; sparrow drones by 2015, dragonfly drones to fly in swarms by 2030, and eventually a housefly drone. And if the reconstruction of nature doesn't pan out, nature itself can be hijacked using electrical impulses to create cyborg surveillance insects being studied at major universities.
* Nano sensors for use in agriculture that measure crops and environmental conditions.
* Bomb-sniffing plants using rewired DNA to detect explosives and biological agents.
* "Smart Dust" motes that wirelessly transmit data on temperature, light, and movement (this can also be used in currency to track cash).
* Nano-based RFID barcodes that can be embedded into any material for tracking of all products . . . and people.
* Devices to detect molecules, enzymes, proteins and genetic markers -- opening up the door for race-specific bioweapons, as mentioned in the Project For a New American Century's policy paper Rebuilding America's Defenses.
There are countless ways that we are already tracked in our daily lives, which has acclimatized us to the next steps underway. We know that the military has a desire to track large groups of people in real time. The Gorgon Stare program is currently undergoing some operational difficulties, but the political will is there to continuously expand surveillance of large populations abroad in order to keep us safe at home in the never-ending War on Terror. Combine miniaturized surveillance capabilities with DARPA's Mind's Eye program of "smart camera" artificial intelligence that can "think" and make visual reporting decisions independently, and things become exponentially creepier.
The Speed of Nanotech Development
Nanotech has been receiving official federal funding for only the past 10 years when it was raised to the status of a federal initiative in 2001, which sparked massive investment in the private sector. By 2003, the newly opened Department of Homeland Security showed immediate interest in SensorNet, a program spearheaded by Oak Ridge National Laboratory and their strategic partners to research ways to fully integrate nano and micro sensors into one overall Internet-like matrix of real-time detection and surveillance. The Department of Defense allocated $3 million to the initiative for the first year, with a projected budget into the billions being allocated over the long term for "detection systems."
By 2006, Oak Ridge announced that they planned to turn Fort Bragg military base into a prototype for America's future cities. According to Department of Energy researcher, Bryan Gorman, "Any sensor can talk to any application. Just like with the Internet or with telephone systems, it doesn't matter what kind of computer or telephone you have, where you are or what application you're running. The system just works." There is even a proprietary social network that has been designed to provide online access and collaboration.
SensorNet has since morphed into an even more comprehensive system "to integrate safety and security measures . . . into the transportation system," which includes concerns surrounding transportation and commerce in the "political, economic, or environmental" arenas. It is here that the full scope of surveillance integration can be seen as a management strategy that merges legislation, federal inspection systems, international standards, security threat assessments, and the latest in nano-technology. Just one example is their discussion of "highway sorting" systems and screening, which begins on page 15 in the previous link; it must be read to be believed. As an aside: the Senior Research Scientist and Senior Program Manager who co-authored the paper linked above is Robert K. Abercrombie, Ph.D. who has a decided interest in cybersecurity. To see where the transportation component of the surveillance grid is heading over the near term, the ITS Strategic Research Plan 2010-2014 is a good indication.
The Promise of Total Integration
February 4, 2011 brought the release of the National Nanotechnology Initiative 2011 Strategic Plan. This 60-page must-read document lays out a projected future "to understand and control matter" for the management of every facet of human life within the surveillance matrix of environment, health and safety. Here is the short-list of the 25 participating Federal agencies and samples of their stated applications:
* Department of Defense (persistent surveillance)
* Intelligence Community (unmanned aircraft)
* Department of Energy (solving energy and climate change challenges)
* Department of Homeland Security (low-cost sensor platforms)
* Department of Justice (applicable to criminal justice needs)
* Department of Transportation (modifying or coordinating travel behavior)
* Environmental Protection Agency (environmental sensing, transformational capabilities)
* Food and Drug Administration (biological systems and effects on human health)
* National Institute of Food and Agriculture (global food security)
* National Institutes of Health (precise control to achieve predictable outcomes)
* Department of the Treasury (improved governance, implementing economic sanctions)
* National Science Foundation (education and societal dimensions)
The promise of integrating nanotechnology in a way that will benefit human knowledge and society already has been re-directed toward military applications for decades. It has manifested in the out-of-control military-industrial complex that has engaged America abroad in costly wars and destabilization campaigns. However, the fallout from this misappropriation of technology is beginning to take its toll on America in the form of militarized police and the monitoring of everyday Americans.
How much longer before the full spectrum of military sci-tech, including what we cannot even see, is unleashed upon an American people willing to accept total control to be safe? Has it happened already? Or, more importantly, how long before Americans come to the realization that when the construction of this surveillance prison is completed -- when the door is locked, and the key is thrown away -- it ultimately will have been our own money that was used to build it.
Additional sources for this article:
Little Brother is Watching You: The future of surveillance is small, very small
On Race-Targetable Biological Weaponry
It's a Bird, It's a Spy, It's Both
The plan for smaller, faster, deadlier UAVs
Related Articles by Michael Edwards:
Is Military Spending Saving or Enslaving?
Police and Military Working Together to Oppress Americans?
Once in the hands of the DEA and other law enforcement agencies, and altered for other uses, like sniffing for terpenoids rather than explosives, imagine how intrusive the federal government, and even state and local law enforcement, could easily become.
This stuff is not science fiction and it is not an April's Fool joke either. It is real and it is our future.
How Close Are We to a Nano-based Surveillance State? How Close Are We to a Nano-based Surveillance State?
Michael Edwards
Activist Post
In the span of just three years, we have seen drone surveillance become openly operational on American soil.
In 2007, Texas reporters first filmed a predator drone test being conducted by the local police department in tandem with Homeland Security. And in 2009, it was revealed that an operation was underway to use predator drones inland over major cities, far from "border control" functions. This year it has been announced that not only will drone operations fly over the Mexican border, but the United States and Canada are partnering to cover 900 miles of the northern border as well.
Now that the precedent has been set to employ drones over non-combat areas, the military is further revealing the technology of miniaturization that they currently have at their disposal. As drone expert, P.W. Singer said, "At this point, it doesn't really matter if you are against the technology, because it's coming." According to Singer, "The miniaturization of drones is where it really gets interesting. You can use these things anywhere, put them anyplace, and the target will never even know they're being watched."
So what exactly is on the horizon?
The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) funds military tech development through the private sector with defense contractors such as Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and Honeywell. It was Honeywell that introduced the T-Hawk micro drone -- now purchased by Miami-Dade county for use in the metro area -- which weighs all of 16 pounds and can fly in any direction. However, this is not so "micro" compared to the latest spy drone to be revealed: the Nano Hummingbird, produced by AeroVironment. The video below illustrates the capabilities of this 19g vehicle:
YouTube - AeroVironment's Nano Hummingbird - Outdoor Indoor Flight
Activist Post: How Close Are We to a Nano-based Surveillance State?
This mimicking of nature heralds a range of science fiction nightmare scenarios, but the name of this vehicle, "nano", is what should spark a red alert. Because, in fact, DARPA and their contractors are working on true nano surveillance that will have biological components . . . and applications.
Here are some surveillance and detection concepts already in operation, or under development (keeping in mind that what is revealed in the public domain is often quite far behind the reality):
* A group of smaller surveillance drones called NAV (nano air vehicles) or MAV (micro air vehicles) already have been commissioned: mapleseed drones; sparrow drones by 2015, dragonfly drones to fly in swarms by 2030, and eventually a housefly drone. And if the reconstruction of nature doesn't pan out, nature itself can be hijacked using electrical impulses to create cyborg surveillance insects being studied at major universities.
* Nano sensors for use in agriculture that measure crops and environmental conditions.
* Bomb-sniffing plants using rewired DNA to detect explosives and biological agents.
* "Smart Dust" motes that wirelessly transmit data on temperature, light, and movement (this can also be used in currency to track cash).
* Nano-based RFID barcodes that can be embedded into any material for tracking of all products . . . and people.
* Devices to detect molecules, enzymes, proteins and genetic markers -- opening up the door for race-specific bioweapons, as mentioned in the Project For a New American Century's policy paper Rebuilding America's Defenses.
There are countless ways that we are already tracked in our daily lives, which has acclimatized us to the next steps underway. We know that the military has a desire to track large groups of people in real time. The Gorgon Stare program is currently undergoing some operational difficulties, but the political will is there to continuously expand surveillance of large populations abroad in order to keep us safe at home in the never-ending War on Terror. Combine miniaturized surveillance capabilities with DARPA's Mind's Eye program of "smart camera" artificial intelligence that can "think" and make visual reporting decisions independently, and things become exponentially creepier.
The Speed of Nanotech Development
Nanotech has been receiving official federal funding for only the past 10 years when it was raised to the status of a federal initiative in 2001, which sparked massive investment in the private sector. By 2003, the newly opened Department of Homeland Security showed immediate interest in SensorNet, a program spearheaded by Oak Ridge National Laboratory and their strategic partners to research ways to fully integrate nano and micro sensors into one overall Internet-like matrix of real-time detection and surveillance. The Department of Defense allocated $3 million to the initiative for the first year, with a projected budget into the billions being allocated over the long term for "detection systems."
By 2006, Oak Ridge announced that they planned to turn Fort Bragg military base into a prototype for America's future cities. According to Department of Energy researcher, Bryan Gorman, "Any sensor can talk to any application. Just like with the Internet or with telephone systems, it doesn't matter what kind of computer or telephone you have, where you are or what application you're running. The system just works." There is even a proprietary social network that has been designed to provide online access and collaboration.
SensorNet has since morphed into an even more comprehensive system "to integrate safety and security measures . . . into the transportation system," which includes concerns surrounding transportation and commerce in the "political, economic, or environmental" arenas. It is here that the full scope of surveillance integration can be seen as a management strategy that merges legislation, federal inspection systems, international standards, security threat assessments, and the latest in nano-technology. Just one example is their discussion of "highway sorting" systems and screening, which begins on page 15 in the previous link; it must be read to be believed. As an aside: the Senior Research Scientist and Senior Program Manager who co-authored the paper linked above is Robert K. Abercrombie, Ph.D. who has a decided interest in cybersecurity. To see where the transportation component of the surveillance grid is heading over the near term, the ITS Strategic Research Plan 2010-2014 is a good indication.
The Promise of Total Integration
February 4, 2011 brought the release of the National Nanotechnology Initiative 2011 Strategic Plan. This 60-page must-read document lays out a projected future "to understand and control matter" for the management of every facet of human life within the surveillance matrix of environment, health and safety. Here is the short-list of the 25 participating Federal agencies and samples of their stated applications:
* Department of Defense (persistent surveillance)
* Intelligence Community (unmanned aircraft)
* Department of Energy (solving energy and climate change challenges)
* Department of Homeland Security (low-cost sensor platforms)
* Department of Justice (applicable to criminal justice needs)
* Department of Transportation (modifying or coordinating travel behavior)
* Environmental Protection Agency (environmental sensing, transformational capabilities)
* Food and Drug Administration (biological systems and effects on human health)
* National Institute of Food and Agriculture (global food security)
* National Institutes of Health (precise control to achieve predictable outcomes)
* Department of the Treasury (improved governance, implementing economic sanctions)
* National Science Foundation (education and societal dimensions)
The promise of integrating nanotechnology in a way that will benefit human knowledge and society already has been re-directed toward military applications for decades. It has manifested in the out-of-control military-industrial complex that has engaged America abroad in costly wars and destabilization campaigns. However, the fallout from this misappropriation of technology is beginning to take its toll on America in the form of militarized police and the monitoring of everyday Americans.
How much longer before the full spectrum of military sci-tech, including what we cannot even see, is unleashed upon an American people willing to accept total control to be safe? Has it happened already? Or, more importantly, how long before Americans come to the realization that when the construction of this surveillance prison is completed -- when the door is locked, and the key is thrown away -- it ultimately will have been our own money that was used to build it.
Additional sources for this article:
Little Brother is Watching You: The future of surveillance is small, very small
On Race-Targetable Biological Weaponry
It's a Bird, It's a Spy, It's Both
The plan for smaller, faster, deadlier UAVs
Related Articles by Michael Edwards:
Is Military Spending Saving or Enslaving?
Police and Military Working Together to Oppress Americans?
Burger Boss
Well-Known Member
OK Brick, fair enough......uh....watcha got Wee?
To tell the truth, I'm so full of "Special magical delusional smoke", I'm left with nothin'..............BB
To tell the truth, I'm so full of "Special magical delusional smoke", I'm left with nothin'..............BB
Brick Top
New Member
Are you legal in the eyes of the Feds?
Anyone who is State legal is really only three quarters legal. They don't have to worry about local cops, county cops or state cops ... but the fourth, the Feds ..... that's something different and with the administrations new Federal crackdown that just recently started who knows how far the Feds will go?
bungholemadness
Active Member
I really dont take this post seriously, almost every household in america has a fan of some sort and there are to many loopholes here to jump threw, even for the feds. Take your scare tactics elsewhere.
Jeffdt1966
Active Member
when Obama took office one of his first moves was to call the feds off .. leaving the states to make the choice itself . Thats why the feds stopped raiding all the dispensaries in Cali . Before this they where doing it on a reg. basis . It has been the opposit of a federal crackdow if anything with more and more states looking at that extra revenue since the feds have stopped the raids ... there is enough to be parnoid about when growing your own stash without all these paranoid thoughts , devices to hear my fans ?? wtf have you been smoking ?? I just wanna make sure I dont get any of it
Brick Top
New Member
If that was directed at me I wasn't referring to the fan thing, which was just an April's Fool Day joke. I was just talking in general about how people like to believe themselves to be totally legal when they are not totally legal and at most they are really only three quarters legal, and in a round about way referring to the massive amount of new technology that will sooner or later be used by DEA and other Federal Agencies.
metagrower
Well-Known Member
Seriously. I mean, the presence of even a large quantity of fans is far from probable cause in any jurisdiction in the US. What if I'm just a fan of fans? What if I like to pretend I'm in that RCA commercial from the 80's every time I watch tv and pretend the sound blows me across the room every time I turn on the tube?
Optic1
Well-Known Member
This is one funny post, i can see it now black ford sedans lining streets with fan guns hanging out their windows. LOL this would never fly in court they have better things to do instead of busting me for 15 plants. Talk about clogging the federal court system. Plus they have no right to pull up just to check me out. How many homes are in the US. I bet I win the powerball lottery 5 times before they pull up in my yard. hell they have had dishes for years that can pull the sound vibrations off our windows. OMG I bet their out there right now listening to me type this, gotta go put my plants down the disposal. Maybe Obama will come dig them out of my septic tank as evidence lol. April Stools
time for jury duty
time for jury duty
Jeffdt1966
Active Member
The post may be a joke ..tbh I just read the first page and didnt see any need in wasting a lot of time with the rest ..lol .. and I'm not trying to call you out on the federal crackdown .. was just saying that in reallity the feds have really loosened up on the raids with this administation and I for one hope to see this trend continue .... no bad intent .. just keepin it real 
Brick Top
New Member
This is one funny post, i can see it now black ford sedans lining streets with fan guns hanging out their windows. LOL this would never fly in court they have better things to do instead of busting me for 15 plants. Talk about clogging the federal court system. Plus they have no right to pull up just to check me out. How many homes are in the US. I bet I win the powerball lottery 5 times before they pull up in my yard. hell they have had dishes for years that can pull the sound vibrations off our windows. OMG I bet their out there right now listening to me type this, gotta go put my plants down the disposal. Maybe Obama will come dig them out of my septic tank as evidence lol. April Stools
Wait until you swat a dragonfly or a housefly in your home and a battery drops out of it.
Optic1
Well-Known Member
Those little babies are buzzing over here all the time. I have electronic counter measures that runs off my dish TV remote and it makes them crash.
I had a pot sniffing helicopter here this morning.
Brick Top
New Member
Originally Posted by Brick Top
Wait until you swat a dragonfly or a housefly in your home and a battery drops out of it.
Wow .. you must have some of the very earliest prototypes in your area.