The problem with auto flowering plants is just that they auto flower.

i think they are worth a shot as long as you get them from somwere that has true autos

autoflowering plants can yield more than 1 1/2 o's. ive seen a 100g's pulled off a auto in dwc. just gotta know what you are doing

Tyke you are an idiot. I get 2 lbs per 1000w and all I grow are autos.

its simple...if you grow numerous autos...you can get the same yield..in half the time...and plant them later in the season if you grow outdoors...id rather have 4-5 strains growing at once taking up the same space that 1 big plant would use....i dont get why so many people take the time to make threads stating how much autos suck..if you dont like them..dont buy them...let everyone form their own opinion on them...and why is most of the people against autos...have never grown an auto in the first place....its a big waste of time going off on autos...your far from the first to do so....ive grown both reg and autos...i like each for different types for different reasons....so sit back..grow what you wish...and stop making threads just to get people to start bickering over a topic that has been gone over from every angle 100 times

Mikov said:

the point of af(auto flowering) strains(as i understand it) is so you can give them tons of light all the time, even in flowering, so no i don't think it'd affect them. they're genetically predisposed to not follow to the light cycle they're given.

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That's not the point of autoflowering. That's an advantage. The point is they don't flower based on light, but on age. Commercially introduced so people with less space (stealth/micro growers) and people with less time (think cold european places outdoors. not everywhere gets the right amount of light to grow outside.) can grow successfully.

Mikov said:

kulong i think you're overreacting lol he's trying to have a constructive argument about the yield, amount of nutes, etc, not compromise your rep for growing them.

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Since when is bashing people you don't know, and don't know their logical reasoning behind something constructive? C'mon man.

Mikov said:

anyway he said to just go bagseed. sure you might get a male but at least the girls will be comfortable and harder to shock, giving you more wiggle room with mistakes, pushing the limit, etc. and you only need to gamble with seeds once really, after you find the girls you can just keep cloning from them.

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Yeah that's all well and good, but I prefer to buy quality genetics. That's like saying, well I think that this new breed of german shepard is stupid, so I'm gonna goto the pound and get a one-eyed, deaf, three-legged beagle. Ridiculous statement. A lot of people grow bag seed because they can't afford genetics, or they don't want to risk ordering seeds online. That's fine... I'm growing bag seed right now because I'm waiting for a seed order to come in. In my opinion what I just quoted has nothing to do with autoflowering strains. Some autos might stress easy, just like some regular strains do. It's genetics. So because a strain might be hard to grow, we should give up and grow bag seed. Have you ever tried to grow a 100% sativa, might as well not even try if you're just gonna quit and run back to bag seed because it doesn't stress as easy. Don't be a lazy stoner. If you fuck something up, FIX IT.

Mikov said:

i wanna see a side by side comparison for a feminized, an AF, and a bagseed of the same strand. that would end the bickering once and for all.

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Seriously? Seriously man? The only difference a fem seed is going to make is the fact is will MOST LIKELY be a female. You CAN'T have the strain of bag seed and an autoflower. The fact that it's an autoflower means it's GENETICALLY different. You can take northern lights and northern lights autoflower, both from Nirvana. They are GENETICALLY different. Some of the traits may be the same, but they carry different genetic makeup. So no bickering would not end, and it will never end.

lowrider2000 said:

auto's suck i purchased 10 5 sprouted 5 were male and 5 did not autoflower..................

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That's a really stupid statement. Let me get this straight. You received 10 seeds, from one breeder, of one strain... Yet ALL autoflowering plants suck? Get real man. a) there's a chance you fucked up 5 of those seeds. b) the other 5 being male had NOTHING to do with the seeds being autoflowering strains. c) if 5 didn't autoflower, they weren't autoflowering. They probably DID come from an autoflowering strain, but the genetic trait wasn't locked down.

ok so just wanna clear one thing up you can not clone an auto correct? got some free and if i cant clone them im just going to start them and get them out of the way.

tyke1973 said:

Why are you guys still wasteing your dollars on these small plants.get with it and grow for real you will have 20/30 times the ammount if you grow right.you are talking 1 ounce 1 and harf if you are realy lucky.you can't clone these plants.you recive the seeds of the breeder of this shyt.the next step is gemanating the seeds then potting the seeds or putting them in bigger cubes if growing hydro.then vegging them then blooming them.you hear what i am saying is buy 5 seeds and grow just 1 of the seeds if you are growing ak47 buy ak47 but the real thing.beats me why you guys bother with growing a plant that takes 8 week to flower the same time has the real ak47 madness and money down the drain,well not down the drain in the pockets of the rich breeders of these strains.a one of yes but constantly growing them for fu@k sake buy the real thing and a timer.this to me is like been offered a mini or a rolls royce.the same lenth of time is taken in growing both perhaps a week or so differance but why would you take 1 and harf ounce over a nice 9 of ak47 this is what you will get dry at least if the plant is grown in the right conditions.get with it guys.I knowwhat is comeing we grow them around our other crop,just flower the bigger version from a clone you will still get the same ammount of a clone has you would a auto.Autoflowering plants stilltake has much care and attension has a normal fat strain so why?

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The problem is people like you coming in to talk about why other people are wrong about what they are doing and why you are right, except you didn't provide any evidence to why using autos can't be good, you ask people why they do something you think is wrong. They are plenty good.

What if I want to run a perpetual harvest and not have to worry about light leaks while I am awake? With autos I can easily run 18/6 in a room and throw a new auto in every week or 2. Then I can be harvesting flowering plants each week or 2, and since they are flowering and vegging at 18/6 I don't have to worry about my bedroom light screwing them up because I will be asleep as the same time ALL of my veg AND flowering plants are asleep at the same time. Running a SOG with autos is much easier than with non autos, although the plus side to SOG with non autos is use can get them from a mother (autos can't be used for clones).

AT NORTHERNLIGHTS
yeah you can't clone autos, because they know how old they are and what point in their life they are supposed to be at. You can't trick them with differen't light schedules, so a clone will always be the same age as its auto mother (which means a 2 week clone cut is already 2/8 weeks done with its life)

Also folks i like to change the flavors of my smoke .so with autos i get new flavors every few weeks, and with very limited space their great.here's a shot of my last two.
Samsara ultraviolets 98 gr dry total with cfl!!with a mother plant its always the same smoke !!View attachment 1499692

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Also folks i like to change the flavors of my smoke .so with autos i get new flavors every few weeks, and with very limited space their great.here's a shot of my last two.
Samsara ultraviolets 98 gr dry total with cfl!!with a mother plant its always the same smoke !!View attachment 1499689View attachment 1499692

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That's the best reason I've heard yet!

Autos are great for quick smoke.

They are super easy to grow

They ususaly dont require a flower rm or season.

They are very fast for those with lesss patience an cant watch a plant grow for months.

The smoke is great, (cept lowryder 2 witch is just ok)

They are perfect for new growers.

But after they get there thumb green they will see whats up with weight an will start growing reg plants when they get the room an supplys..

SCARHOLE said:

Autos are great for quick smoke.

They are super easy to grow

They ususaly dont require a flower rm or season.

They are very fast for those with lesss patience an cant watch a plant grow for months.

The smoke is great, (cept lowryder 2 witch is just ok)

They are perfect for new growers.

But after they get there thumb green they will see whats up with weight an will start growing reg plants when they get the room an supplys..

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, that could apply ,but i used to grow regular plants but with the reasons stated above and the advancement in autos yield potency and taste ,no reason to go back to regular . plus you talk about yield i get i get 75-100 gr every 2-3 weeks from my autos , so while your waiting 8- 9 weeks flowering time on a regular plant ive harvested 3- 4 times for 225- 300 gr thats plenty of yield for myself !!!!! and thats with new flavors every 2-3weeks !!

Im kind of the Opposite, I want to grow auto seeds in my lil cab but Reg seeds are so much cheeper.
My last breeding project (lowryder MIx Pack)to get free auto seeds failed.

I get a decent plant on 12/12 from seed,
But autos are definatly faster.

I need to try some more autos, they got alot more of em available now.

Automaria was great, Red dwarf was great, but the lowryders werent doing it for me...
Dr greenthumbs Iranian sounds like the ultimate outdoor auto...

I'm about to try my UFO auto flowers outside this summer hidden in a vegetable garden.

scarhole said:

im kind of the opposite, i want to grow auto seeds in my lil cab but reg seeds are so much cheeper.
My last breeding project (lowryder mix pack)to get free auto seeds failed.

I get a decent plant on 12/12 from seed,
but autos are definatly faster.

I need to try some more autos, they got alot more of em available now.

Automaria was great, red dwarf was great, but the lowryders werent doing it for me...
Dr greenthumbs iranian sounds like the ultimate outdoor auto...

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ya bro ,i try to staywith newer hybred autos , ya not a fan of the lowryders either , i like the samsara seeds autos ,short stuff autos greenhouse seeds autos, take a look at big buddha new autos like super sativa , and sweet seeds new autos like cream caramel or blackjack you might find something you like there ,ive talked to a few people on here who did there own pollinating on autos with success , have to agree about them being more pricey , but i think that will slowly start to change i hope !

what happened !!

Im just kind of re-starting an earlier question becuase i didnt see much if any discussion about it, but i can only grow outdoors and was itnerested in looking at autos to maybe get 2 harvests a season, 3 if im lucky, but ive never used auto flowering seeds before;
Are auto flowering seeds ideal for outdoor growing?
Will they take longer then an auto flowering plant indoor?
do you still give veg nutrients and then switch to flowering nutrients?

any and all help would be greatly appreciated!

rzza said:

oh thats pretty funny.

ive actually heard of this happening before. my first grow was buddha seeds white dwarf and red dwarf. they were great and yielded about an oz each. i recently grew a jock horror auto, it was a freeby. the worst plant ever. it harvested 1.8 grams. it was funky ass bud though

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lol 1.8 gram haha

Why do I waste my money on autos ......

First off I have a perpetual 1 plant a week medical grow. I have sour diesel, blue cheese, master kush, red dragon, skunk #1, hawaii maui wowi, og kush,cheese, and headband.

Now my autos are a different story. I have a 250 watt hps in my veg room. I veg autos for 4 weeks under my t5's then they go under the 250. We call this area the snack shack because every 6 weeks we get 3 different smokes.We actually have it going that every 2 weeks a new one comes out.We do this for shitz and giggles and BECAUSE WE CAN.It's an easy way to throw some different flavors around.Plus if you consider 14$ for an ounce or better of smoke a waste then what can I say but that I feel sorry for you.

NOW who wants to go to the snack shack, right now we have fruit, critical mass, and diesel ryder under there.

PERPETUAL GROW. Not all of us have a warehouse with 6000 square feet of grow space. 1 tent, you can keep the same light schedule, start new seeds in the same tent. Everyone's situation is unique. And with the right nutes/lights/experience you can pull 4 ounces off one auto. There are plenty of journals with even more then that. On top of that, using some silver collodial solution you can cross breed and make your own auto seeds. It is not impossible. Like anything else, its personal preference and situation. I think the main advantage for most is 1 grow area, same light schedule. Plus 12's kind of suck ass if you have to use your space for other shit too.

gettin fluffy said:

Im just kind of re-starting an earlier question becuase i didnt see much if any discussion about it, but i can only grow outdoors and was itnerested in looking at autos to maybe get 2 harvests a season, 3 if im lucky, but ive never used auto flowering seeds before;
Are auto flowering seeds ideal for outdoor growing?
Will they take longer then an auto flowering plant indoor?
do you still give veg nutrients and then switch to flowering nutrients?

any and all help would be greatly appreciated!

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Not really. Autos need plenty of light because they have a defined life span. If you subject them to cloudy days/ 13-14 hours of light, you're going to get a shit yield, unless you plant like 30. For stealth outdoor they are awesome.