The Sacred Brew!

Swag

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Just received my order of MHRB and already have had my Syrian Rue. Now I have no intent to ingest the powerful ayahuasca until I am better experienced with psychedelics in general as to avoid a bad trip and maximize the learning potential from such a powerful psychedelic. I have a few questions regarding it however which are in need of answering.

1. How much would I need to brew up for a strong spiritual journey? Accurate dosing if possible X grams of Mimosa and X grams of Syrian.

2. EDITED OUT. I don't wanna risk getting banned. :-)

3. Would you suggest going on a MAOI diet? I was thinking of just consuming plain white rice three days prior to the experience and then fasting on the day I plan on taking it up till I consume the brew. I read this isn't necessary as Rue is a reversible MAO-A only inhibitor (something like that) so there is little chance of possible toxicity danger of other substances in food. An even if it is not necessary would you still advise me to do the diet?

4. Please suggest some good music. I am looking for something highly spiritual, I know that occupies a broad sense of sound based on religion and beliefs. Mostly I'm looking for something peaceful yet still emotionally deep piercing. One song I most definitely plan to listen to is Aerials - System of A Down. The entire song seems to represent the basis of a strong psychedelic spiritual journey with such lyrics as "Swimming through the void we hear the word, we lose ourselves but we find it all." "Cause we are the ones that wanna play always wanna go but you never wanna stay." "Aerials in the sky, when you lose small mind you free your life." "Aerials so up high, when you free your eyes, eternal prize." A great song and very mysterious and weird music video, I highly recommend you check it out if you have never heard the song or seen the video.

5. Last I mostly expect this answer to be a yes, but do you suggest I do a low dose trial run to ease myself into the experience. I have little experience with DMT other than through Psilocybin/Psilocin. Would it be possible to make Changa out of these two ingredients and should I try that with my excess material or a lower dose Ayahuasca brew?

Other Basic Info. to take into account: The trip will be by myself so I am alittle afraid of losing it not ego loss wise but still being conscious and having a psychotic breakdown, especially after reading on erowid.org a trip report where one person took which appeared to be a very large dose of MHRB I think it was around 55g or something! An he ended up blacking out from the experience but his parents said they had to hold him down while he violently lashed out at them holding his testicles screaming "Rape!" and "Homosexuality!" at the top of his lungs... I'm not trying to have that happen :lol:. The amount of material I have is as followed 2 ounces of MHRB and 1 ounce of Syrian Rue.
 

ANC

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no diet required, I'm a little stoned/lazy, a few minutes on DMT-nexus, will provide all the info you need.
Unfortunatly the combination of rue with mimosa is not a very accurate portrayal of the full/true aya experience, as rue can be a harsh teacher.
Nevertheless I'm sure you will come out fine. Even little children drink aya in Peru.

For music get Shpongle's Nothing Lasts... But Nothing Is Lost... deeply neo-shamanic trance, camouflaged as music to the untrained ear.

No diet required.

If you are not a little bit scared at some point, you dosed too low. Catharsis is the easiest route to change.
 

Swag

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Alright I love shpongle I should have thought of them! Also would it be possible to smoke changa out of them (MHRB and Syrian) or does that require Cappi. and whatever MAOI you take with that? (sorry for sounding ignorant I'm mostly familiar with Mimosa for DMT experiences so I'm not sure of the MAOI to combine Cappi. with)

EDIT: nevermind I'll just head over to Nexus, I just didn't wanna take the time to make a new account :-/
 

ANC

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Caapi is the MAOI, rue can be used too, but its a little harder as you would need to extract it first to make a nice smokeable freebase...
You could take the rue seed oraly and smoke dmt after a few minutes when you start feeling it too.

You don't need an account to browse nexus as far as I know.
 

Illumination

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ANC you may not be god but you are a fountain of the most enlightened knowledge...

ha ha...scared of sacred is an oxymoron

namaste':leaf:
 

ANC

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I forgot to say, there are pics taken during a rue extraction in my photo gallery.
https://www.rollitup.org/members/anc-91403/albums/peganum-harmala-10450/

Basicaly you just need vinegar and non-iodated salt and a stovetop to do a mixed harmals extraction from the seed. Oh and a few coffee filters and a little funnel as it involves filteringa few times if you want realy clean stuff.

I filter mine useing a syringe suspended in a bottle's neck, and the syringe has a bit of a pollyfill plug to filter out stuff. when I'm done I just press the polyplug wit the stuff on top out with a piece of wire... (actualy my wife's cooking pin).
 

Swag

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I forgot to say, there are pics taken during a rue extraction in my photo gallery.
https://www.rollitup.org/members/anc-91403/albums/peganum-harmala-10450/

Basicaly you just need vinegar and non-iodated salt and a stovetop to do a mixed harmals extraction from the seed. Oh and a few coffee filters and a little funnel as it involves filteringa few times if you want realy clean stuff.

I filter mine useing a syringe suspended in a bottle's neck, and the syringe has a bit of a pollyfill plug to filter out stuff. when I'm done I just press the polyplug wit the stuff on top out with a piece of wire... (actualy my wife's cooking pin).
Ah thanks for the info. ANC I read about extracting the MAOI in Rue some where into salt form... come to think of it, I think you were the one who posted about it! But right now I have no kind of freebase DMT if that's what I need to smoke with the Rue. I have all the necessary ingredients back home (granulated Lye and Naptha) but last time I tried a extraction I failed (yes, I failed at a DMT extraction. I am horrible) mostly because the jar I was using was too big so the Naptha layer was extremely thin and also I was to lazy to do another Naptha extraction after my first one of the bark. That's the main reason I'm using the ayahuasca instead of doing another extract. 1. I'm extremely lazy. An 2. I have little chance of messing it up. If I do some how manage to mess up brewing tea... well I would just say I'm to stupid to try and indulge myself in DMT anyways an completely give up :rolleyes:. Thank you for the info. though DMT smoked will definitely be the next step for me after drinking the brew. I just don't think I'm ready to fully breakthrough yet.
 

purple stanky

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im sorry but in my opinion dude if you cant handle 5-15
mins when you smoke it you dont need to be doing tea
and be lost in the spirit world for hours.
 

ANC

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P.S. no one is EVER ready for full breakthrough...

I've never done the plain MHRB+rue seeds taken oraly, but I believe doses to be in the range of
3g rue seed + 10g MHRB (equals about 100+mg of DMT content). You would need to verify, maybe errowid would be ok.
As rue is cheap, I suggest you just try to take 2g of rue first, with nothing extra, then if your stomach does ok, on another day do the combo...

Low doses of rue on its own is pretty neat, and high doses, once you have gradualy increased your doses, is mindblowing.
 

Illumination

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rue will puke you...but with the long lasting animal spiritualistic adventure through the living breathing Persian neon rug overlay who cares bout puking?? LOL:hump:

Namaste':peace:

errowid does have all the details as to dosing with mimosa and harmala rue for the utmost...can't wait to do it again at the solstice
 

Swag

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Well I just got finished making a brew of about 10g's of MHRB along with 5 grams of Rue. Now would the Rue still digested in seed form? Or can they be strained out? I boiled both of them in a pot for 20 minutes, added to the water was 250mg of vitamin C supplement and a lot of lemon juice before the bark and rue were added.
 

Swag

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errowid does have all the details as to dosing with mimosa and harmala rue for the utmost...can't wait to do it again at the solstice
That's when I was planning on drinking it for my first time :). Saw it at Nexus under something about the S.H.E... not really sure what it mean :?:
 

ANC

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yeah, unless you are as big as the dude in your previous avatar...
I'd try just drinking the tea, a few failures are in order and reduces the presure on the self.
Everything happens exactly like its supposed to.
The rue tea isn't so dusgusting, its mostly the tannin in the MHRB which make you vomit.
Follow your insticts, if you feel like forcefeeding yourself every last vile bit, then good...
With DMT I find higher doses tend to more forgiving in that it allows for release from your thoughts.
 
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