The Seed Collectors Thread
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400wattsallday
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dinafem og=full blown male. just pulled him.
wyteberrywidow
Global
Lmao..seems its common to get a male out of FEMs now
400wattsallday
Active Member
thats why im buying regs only, dinafem og=freebie=waste of time
karmas a bitch
Well-Known Member
Those smart meters save you money from what my friends have told me.
gudkarma
New Member
i did a little research.
& you?
a) smart meters collect data
b) smart meters emit radiation
c) smart meter installation has resulted in small amount of house fires at the meter not related to the install
d) smart meters can tell exactly what device you turn on by its frequency !
e) grow ops have been busted by crunching smart meter data
f) smart meters can offer more than clues to your daily activity, like tell the cops your in the house cause the tv is on
g) smart meter data is sold & used to brand you
h) smart meters have been hacked for data !
i) smart meters are to replace perfectly functioning mechanical meters for no reason
j) a %age of the population is electromagnetically sensitive & smart meters fuck with them
k) have been thought to cause headache, nausia (spell) , disorientation, and more
l) smart meters have many times = higher electric bills
m) the consumer has been paying for the smart meter for years in the form of fees
n) you pay fees for years but cant opt out & if you do they charge you more fees (one time and monthly) in many cases
o) o = oppression of rights
p) smart meters can be turned off remotely ...speaks to data hacking
q) smart meters will tell the electric co. when to charge you more during the day
r) smart meters are a form of control... baby want the electric ba-ba today? better not say bad things about the government.
s) these devices are NOT more efficient like they claim
t) smart meters are made in china (ah yeah no fucking thanks)
u) smart meters put meter readers out of work
v) smart meters next to eachother (like multiple units mounted near eachother) emit more radiation
w) smart meters are being installed in your home backed by government grants... say what ! for massive profit utility companys?
x) smart meters arent smart they're monitoring devices
y) smart meter networks are subject to crashes & virus
z) ah... i might be forced to have one. ahem. america is not iran? or china? or is it?
let you guys have those guns... one minute its freedom... next its no issue.
some of y'all weird imo.
^ still luvs u though
like a retarded brother
[youtube]6BcVdkgY9ZQ[/youtube]
& you?
a) smart meters collect data
b) smart meters emit radiation
c) smart meter installation has resulted in small amount of house fires at the meter not related to the install
d) smart meters can tell exactly what device you turn on by its frequency !
e) grow ops have been busted by crunching smart meter data
f) smart meters can offer more than clues to your daily activity, like tell the cops your in the house cause the tv is on
g) smart meter data is sold & used to brand you
h) smart meters have been hacked for data !
i) smart meters are to replace perfectly functioning mechanical meters for no reason
j) a %age of the population is electromagnetically sensitive & smart meters fuck with them
k) have been thought to cause headache, nausia (spell) , disorientation, and more
l) smart meters have many times = higher electric bills
m) the consumer has been paying for the smart meter for years in the form of fees
n) you pay fees for years but cant opt out & if you do they charge you more fees (one time and monthly) in many cases
o) o = oppression of rights
p) smart meters can be turned off remotely ...speaks to data hacking
q) smart meters will tell the electric co. when to charge you more during the day
r) smart meters are a form of control... baby want the electric ba-ba today? better not say bad things about the government.
s) these devices are NOT more efficient like they claim
t) smart meters are made in china (ah yeah no fucking thanks)
u) smart meters put meter readers out of work
v) smart meters next to eachother (like multiple units mounted near eachother) emit more radiation
w) smart meters are being installed in your home backed by government grants... say what ! for massive profit utility companys?
x) smart meters arent smart they're monitoring devices
y) smart meter networks are subject to crashes & virus
z) ah... i might be forced to have one. ahem. america is not iran? or china? or is it?
let you guys have those guns... one minute its freedom... next its no issue.
some of y'all weird imo.
^ still luvs u though
like a retarded brother
[youtube]6BcVdkgY9ZQ[/youtube]
gudkarma
New Member
thought this would speak to you cause its close to home :
"In central Ohio, law enforcement officials file as many as 60 subpoenas each month for energy use records of people suspected in indoor marijuana growing operations. It seems that most of the residences with indoor pot growing operations are in quit neighborhoods without much traffic."
just talked with my little bro his house has it outside.
mine = in the lab
nice.
& no... its never read like you would think. the data is collected & most likely never crunched like somebody noted.
still...
===> how do they catch grow ops if its never crunched? : http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/8347690-smart-meters-help-cops-identify-and-bust-indoor-marijuana-growing-operations
its all digital on wi-fi networks ...data collected many many times a day... like every several minutes.
google smart meter pot bust... see for yourself.
"In central Ohio, law enforcement officials file as many as 60 subpoenas each month for energy use records of people suspected in indoor marijuana growing operations. It seems that most of the residences with indoor pot growing operations are in quit neighborhoods without much traffic."
just talked with my little bro his house has it outside.
mine = in the lab
nice.
& no... its never read like you would think. the data is collected & most likely never crunched like somebody noted.
still...
===> how do they catch grow ops if its never crunched? : http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/8347690-smart-meters-help-cops-identify-and-bust-indoor-marijuana-growing-operations
its all digital on wi-fi networks ...data collected many many times a day... like every several minutes.
google smart meter pot bust... see for yourself.
cerberus
Well-Known Member
this is the truth meng.
@gudkarma
i wouldn't sweat it, and frankly even if ya did, it would be like sweat'n the HA's opening up shop next dorr, aint shit ya gonna be able to do about it anyways, dig?
and they all came in up heya to and it didn't fuck anybody's swerve, they like our cake too.
400wattsallday
Active Member
Have you heard about the new "smart meters" that are being installed in homes all across America? Under the guise of "reducing greenhouse gas emissions" and "reducing energy bills", utility companies all over the United States are forcing tens of millions of American families to accept sophisticated surveillance devices in their homes. Currently, approximately 9 percent of all electric meters in the U.S. have been converted over to smart meters. It is being projected that by 2012, the number of smart meters in use will rise to 52 million, and the federal government is spending a lot of money to help get these installed everywhere. Eventually the goal is to have these smart meters in all of our homes and if that ever happened there would essentially be no more privacy. Once installed, a smart meter monitors your home every single minute of every single day and it transmits very sophisticated data about your personal behavior back to the utility company.
For example, smart meters are already being used by police to bust marijuana growers.
It is also feared that insurance companies, credit agencies, lawyers, marketing firms and even criminals will be able to get their hands on this data as well.
Smart meters can help police bust indoor marijuana growing operations. It does so because the smart meters provide highly detailed energy use data, that could be used in real time surveillance of neighborhoods, communities, cities and eventually the nation's entire electrical grid.
In central Ohio, law enforcement officials file as many as 60 subpoenas each month for energy use records of people suspected in indoor marijuana growing operations. It seems that most of the residences with indoor pot growing operations are in quit neighborhoods without much traffic.
HOW COPS USE SMART METER TECHNOLOGY IS INTERESTING
According to Drug Enforcement Agency, the subpena is only "one tool" used to catch illegal grow house operations. What typically happens is that police may recieve a tip of suspicous activity and undercover officers might not find anything illegal during a routine surveillance of the suspect's residence. So then "utility consumption records" can be sought which could be one indicator police use to get 'probable cause' to go search the place. (google cut an paste)
For example, smart meters are already being used by police to bust marijuana growers.
It is also feared that insurance companies, credit agencies, lawyers, marketing firms and even criminals will be able to get their hands on this data as well.
Smart meters can help police bust indoor marijuana growing operations. It does so because the smart meters provide highly detailed energy use data, that could be used in real time surveillance of neighborhoods, communities, cities and eventually the nation's entire electrical grid.
In central Ohio, law enforcement officials file as many as 60 subpoenas each month for energy use records of people suspected in indoor marijuana growing operations. It seems that most of the residences with indoor pot growing operations are in quit neighborhoods without much traffic.
HOW COPS USE SMART METER TECHNOLOGY IS INTERESTING
According to Drug Enforcement Agency, the subpena is only "one tool" used to catch illegal grow house operations. What typically happens is that police may recieve a tip of suspicous activity and undercover officers might not find anything illegal during a routine surveillance of the suspect's residence. So then "utility consumption records" can be sought which could be one indicator police use to get 'probable cause' to go search the place. (google cut an paste)
gudkarma
New Member
im curious as to how many people in this thread have them on their cribs?
<1000w?
>1000w?
im already planning to flip flop my space to keep my usage very consistent w/o a 12 hour spike.
im 2632w (in flower 2000w/veg 632w) + serveral hundred more here & there
i'll throw a 250w MH on a single seedling , swear it.
<1000w?
>1000w?
im already planning to flip flop my space to keep my usage very consistent w/o a 12 hour spike.
im 2632w (in flower 2000w/veg 632w) + serveral hundred more here & there
i'll throw a 250w MH on a single seedling , swear it.
400wattsallday
Active Member
if u get a flip box u can run 2 hood with one ballest and have energy used all the time at the same rate http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/powerbox-two-light-flipbox-p-2809.html
gudkarma
New Member
hmmm... that box has potential.
& so do tents cause my space is a huge flower room really.
im not gonna worry.
but my area is heavy duty nitty gritty.
over here, the need to always plan & prepare & think about one's living environment is paramount cause pigs they here. the swine i can see & smell from my window ...the grit be here, there, and everywhere.
id love to live on a farm... in the boonies... on an island.
^island, yep, surfs up! ...even from the jungle concrete where the chickhead ho's , savvy lions , and gorilla killaz roam.
nevertheless, pigs cant stop me. electric company too.
wondering what cali farmers are doing to circumvent & take back control...
& so do tents cause my space is a huge flower room really.
im not gonna worry.
but my area is heavy duty nitty gritty.
over here, the need to always plan & prepare & think about one's living environment is paramount cause pigs they here. the swine i can see & smell from my window ...the grit be here, there, and everywhere.
id love to live on a farm... in the boonies... on an island.
^island, yep, surfs up! ...even from the jungle concrete where the chickhead ho's , savvy lions , and gorilla killaz roam.
nevertheless, pigs cant stop me. electric company too.
wondering what cali farmers are doing to circumvent & take back control...
shizniz34
Well-Known Member
Someone should challenge the right to get a search warrant or subpoenas due to the fact that they could be doing anything inside the house (that is legal, they don't know), as well as they could be growing legitimate plants (tomatoes, peppers, whatever). Its the same reason that it is against the law to obtain a search warrant when a helicopter sees a house glowing red on it's radar because it could be due to other things, that are legal. I'm searching for the article but this ruling was made in 2009, I believe after houses had been raided forever due to infrared technology. I think the same principle applies with electricity use.
Sounds like this is the next step for the government, till someone challenges them.
Sounds like this is the next step for the government, till someone challenges them.
400wattsallday
Active Member
it makes no sense 2 me, but what do i know. im just some guy that gets high.They like taking the fun out of everything,
too bad they cant prove MJ is dangerous, and their Sched 1 class is a fucking joke, and people are sick of their lies. They are real close to losing this war
tehgenoc1de
Active Member
I had a smart meter put on a few months ago. I have not seen an increase in cost on my bill, and I've been running the a/c for myself and for the plants a lot more lately.
The only thing about it that I see is that all the information can be brought up on a computer in a few seconds. Though, there's probably not much to worry about, my neighbor who doesn't grow for sure had a way higher bill than I so I don't know if they can just look and tell you're growing from just that. What if you're growing mass amounts of indoor fruits/vegetables for the pending apocalypse?
The only thing about it that I see is that all the information can be brought up on a computer in a few seconds. Though, there's probably not much to worry about, my neighbor who doesn't grow for sure had a way higher bill than I so I don't know if they can just look and tell you're growing from just that. What if you're growing mass amounts of indoor fruits/vegetables for the pending apocalypse?