The UK Growers Thread!

Don Gin and Ton

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The DOG is a strain that has come from a female Headband that has hermied and developed male flowers half way through the flowering period. One of the males flowers was used to pollinate an OG Kush female and provided a number of seeds that have all turned out feminized. The strain, like the parent, produces some plants that throw out male pods. This is reasonably controllable and once removed tend not to return. Further tests have been done on the clone of one of the particular pheno’s that produced the male pods to see if cloning removes this trait which it has shown to do in the parent Headband and all subsequent generations showed no sign of producing any males plant parts. There appear to be two different phenotypes on the whole, one providing a longer stretching plant and the other a shorter more tightly compact plant. Both have dark green fan leaves showing indica-dominant traits, with extremely tight compact buds that glisten with resinous trichomes. The end result produces a weed that delivers nostalgic smells and tastes of bygone era’s, as well as having the right power and ability to meet the needs of the modern day medical marijuana user. Flowering period 9 weeks, for best results leave until mid week 9 at least. 2 phenos, both grow fairly large. One takes on the more compactness of the Headband while the other is a more stretchy plant, with a similar viney branch structure to the OG Kush. The latter is a fairly reasonable yielder and good plant for training. The plants take well to most techniques, fimming, LST, supercropping. A combination will bring you a crazy plant with compact calyxes that foxtail around week 7 and are encrusted with trichomes. A combination of dark greens, lime, silvery tones with light brown hairs on curing. The more compact pheno also produces wonderful purple coloured plants given the correct cooler flowering temperatures. At first smell the deep spicy cumin tones of the Headband come through. The complexity of the smells deepens with a deep chemical piney smell upon pressure to the calyx or while tearing the bud open. A draw of an unlit joint brings sweetness, aniseed and liquorice flavours. With fire to the jay an immediate old school flavour is detected, a sweet herbal smell, organic grown DOG produces a very smooth smoke to the throat, leaving a slight gentle tingle over the tongue and nose on exhale. The exhale retains the sweetness and leaves a morish taste on the pallet. The tingle leaves a slightly thick resinous feeling in the back of the throat. You know you have taken a draw that is going to hit you soon. The effect can be felt in the lower leg muscles, calves and through the thighs. Good for people on their feet all day and needing to relax those muscles. Half way through the joint you will have a nice warm feeling in your cranium as well as the creeping body and muscle effects. The joint retains its strong morish flavour which is always a good sign of a nice weed. After 30 minutes you will still be as high as when you first had the joint.

WTF?
we're bandits on RIU they don't like us advertising BB yet they lick subcools ringpiece and raredankness genetics have their own thread. DST's had his PM privileges removed before. they took westy's toilet seat and my colouring crayons too the c@nts.

Links In my Sig for the BB grow I'm doing. Strains are dog kush, entered into the cannabis cup last year. Psycho killer coming up next. ill put some pics of the finished articles the morra.
pics coming up
ive heard a lot about breeders boutique has it been around for long and has anyone grown their strains also connoisseur cannabis genetics looks very good any one grown from any of these coz I want to buy from attitude as there new offer runs till the 19th so I might aswell buy now :)
you'll get much better freebies and a fuck load more pips for your coin from not attitude :razz:

wanna see their gear?

DOG KUSH
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Dippy Ellsy
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Psycho Killer

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QrazyQuake

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latest project. smelly fingerez

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tip top toker

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if I could get an oz for £160 I wouldn't bother growing lol,it has cost me way more than that in equipment, then I pay about £1.70 a day just to run my grow room,not to mention me constantly having to wash my soiled underwear as the police seem to drive outside my house more since I started growing,i am still waiting for my weed I wont bother getting it from Europe again,ive bought a few times off him and it takes 4-8 days to come but the waiting is torture lol,if I have to buy any from bmr again I will go to ukweed or boltz as I know they are good guys but there prices are a bit more expensive.
You must be doing something very wrong then, or thinking very much in the short term. After your first, if not second grow, you should have EASILY paid off the startup costs, which are only a few hundred quid. Unless you are doing just the one grow, you shouldn't really bother taking the equiptment costs into account as once they're bought, they're bought.

So following that, your power bill is what, £150 a run and that is working on a 12 week turnaround. At £1.70 a day you should looking at what, a 600w hps by my reckoning, and a 600w hps will quite happily give you what, 15-20 ounces if you know what you're doing. Throw some money in for nutrients, lets just say £20 which imo is a huge number just for the nutes, but not to worry. So let's just say that the one run cost you a total of £200, just to be daft, then you are looking at £200 for 15-20 ounces, or to put in money terms, £200 of input, for £2400+ output, or alternatively, it is costing you around £13 or less per ounce to grow.

So in short, if it's costing you £160 an ounce to grow, then something is amusingly wrong with your setup, or you are not thinking beyond the first grow. Get the first grow under your belt, sell 2 of the ounces, equiptment paid for.
 

indikat

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couldnt be fuked to make bubble today, couldnt be arsed to go to shops, wasted fukin day an i chopped and shredded the ugly sik from seed cunt of a plant..good riidense topped a a tangerine dream above the 3rd fer a change gonna bin the first node...hows tricks m8s
 

tip top toker

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Indeed it is :) Won't stop me though! While price of green is relative and subjective, in this example, with regard to justifying waste, i could waste that weed and still be below the buying threshold. And for my situation, if i had not got it in my cupboard, i would have bought it anyway, so either way i ended up saving money, waste or not :)

Growing weed is not like building your own car where you can't possibly make the same product at the same price, in fact quite the opposite. So many people grow green in their back room because we can supply ourselves with a far superior product for a far cheaper price :) If it's costing trichome 1 more to grow an ounce than it does to buy one, then his grow is fundamentally flawed.
 

The2TimEr

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I'll take the DOG and the fingerz please! that DOG looks like summit else , nice yielding crystal covered rocks!

So does the BB belong to DST don? been meaning to ask for a while
 

trichome 1

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You must be doing something very wrong then, or thinking very much in the short term. After your first, if not second grow, you should have EASILY paid off the startup costs, which are only a few hundred quid. Unless you are doing just the one grow, you shouldn't really bother taking the equiptment costs into account as once they're bought, they're bought.

So following that, your power bill is what, £150 a run and that is working on a 12 week turnaround. At £1.70 a day you should looking at what, a 600w hps by my reckoning, and a 600w hps will quite happily give you what, 15-20 ounces if you know what you're doing. Throw some money in for nutrients, lets just say £20 which imo is a huge number just for the nutes, but not to worry. So let's just say that the one run cost you a total of £200, just to be daft, then you are looking at £200 for 15-20 ounces, or to put in money terms, £200 of input, for £2400+ output, or alternatively, it is costing you around £13 or less per ounce to grow.

So in short, if it's costing you £160 an ounce to grow, then something is amusingly wrong with your setup, or you are not thinking beyond the first grow. Get the first grow under your belt, sell 2 of the ounces, equiptment paid for.
the rwason I started to grow is because the price of weed has gone up,i don't plan to sell so I have only 2 photo's and one auto on the go,if weed stayed at £160 an oz I would never of started coz if caught my SIA licence would get taken and id be out of a job,the best thing about growing is you know what your smoking and it does feel good to smoke someting you have grown my costs are way more than you say ive paid for my light setup a parabolic reflector,a vented ballast,new fan,a massive cooler,25litre pots 100 litres of canna coco,dutchpro nutes a+b grow and bloom,canna pk13/14 then superthrive and plantmagic magne-cal,ph meter,test kit,and om going to get dutch masters liquid light and penetrator,my vag time alone will end up more than 12 weeks lol so my electric bill is also massive but I will be happy aslong as I reach my target of 8oz,and will always grow now but shit bricks while doing it lol:)
 

Don Gin and Ton

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Indeed it is :) Won't stop me though! While price of green is relative and subjective, in this example, with regard to justifying waste, i could waste that weed and still be below the buying threshold. And for my situation, if i had not got it in my cupboard, i would have bought it anyway, so either way i ended up saving money, waste or not :)

Growing weed is not like building your own car where you can't possibly make the same product at the same price, in fact quite the opposite. So many people grow green in their back room because we can supply ourselves with a far superior product for a far cheaper price :) If it's costing trichome 1 more to grow an ounce than it does to buy one, then his grow is fundamentally flawed.
nothing stops you TT! you crazy mofo lolz. what your saying is right. it costs a fraction to produce your own than it does to buy but the initial start up, there's no denying can be expensive or done on a shoe string. fuck me i started in an alcove with a fire hazard home made ballast and 600w lamp. painted the walls white and slung a bedsheet over it. gf loved lights on at 7:30 am :lol:

or you can do it like trich and blow a fortune on kit you don't really need ( parabollocks if you ask me ). great if your going a room with rows of them but for yourself naa.

I'll take the DOG and the fingerz please! that DOG looks like summit else , nice yielding crystal covered rocks!
So does the BB belong to DST don? been meaning to ask for a while
that would be telling. hahah and sadly neither of your choices are available to the public yet unless you get a snip.
 

trichome 1

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Indeed it is :) Won't stop me though! While price of green is relative and subjective, in this example, with regard to justifying waste, i could waste that weed and still be below the buying threshold. And for my situation, if i had not got it in my cupboard, i would have bought it anyway, so either way i ended up saving money, waste or not :)

Growing weed is not like building your own car where you can't possibly make the same product at the same price, in fact quite the opposite. So many people grow green in their back room because we can supply ourselves with a far superior product for a far cheaper price :) If it's costing trichome 1 more to grow an ounce than it does to buy one, then his grow is fundamentally flawed.
its my first grow with this setup and I don't know what to expect if I get 8oz i'll be happy but even 6oz would be ok coz I have learned a lot the only thing with growing weed is if caught for cultivating its much worse on the record than possession and I live near a flight path so hear helicopters every 5 mins lol and I need my job,ive no doubt I will do ok and be in profit as I am scrogging and should easily smash 4oz a plant not including my auto,its works out about 800 roughly inc electric :)
 

The2TimEr

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You all know the reason i grow, because NO OTHER CUNT HERE DOES :)

I've always grown on somewhat of a budget, no large scale grows by any means, 6 plant grows max. £80 tent, around £200 on lighting and then it's just nutes, pots dirt and so on.

What i sell to my mates goes at £15 per gram and that's becuase alot of them hadn't even tried bud if it wasn't for me, it just isn't available here full stop. all the standard maroc that comes here goes at £10 per gram so the time and effort it takes me to grow the dank is more then reasonable for them.
 

tip top toker

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Aye, a job is always something to take into account when considering cannabis, let alone growing.

The first grow is always expensive, due to the startup costs, but after that it all gets rather cheap :) And generally your yields will just increase with each grow under the belt. I don't know your setup, but for auto's you don't really want to be growing them under 12/12, so unless you have a second grow room for the autos, then it would be more productive to keep it all to one or the other. Give it 6 months and you'll be cracking open the mason jars and laughing. When i was buying it was always a case of dividing bags into joints, being careful about how much goes in the grinder etc, once you've got a draw full of mason jars you just grab a fat nug and the joint will be as big as it wants. It is a fantastic feeling not to be sat there thinking that you just smoked up a fiver in a single rizzla :) The downside naturally is that after a year or whatnot of being used to smoking for near nothing, and if you are selling any, then you can be getting paid to smoke, then should you stop growing, it becomes very painful handing over good money for bugger all of mediocre weed :(

You should go DWC 2timer. It removes time and effort from the equation :) I'd fill up my res once a week, or even once every 2 weeks once i got a 100l res due to basement lighting being bellends, and the only real time and effort involved is the trimming. £15/g to mates is ludicrous though, even if it isn't readily available in your area. It'#s each to their own though, I prefered just to give mates weed knowing they'll enjoy a nice smoke when they get home.
 

trichome 1

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if I had known better I would of bought a water cooled hood but I just was just eager to get growing and thought they were ok lol and they are doing the job and I have no choice but to keep them for now but I will change for my next setup,i may even try a different grow completely dwc looks good but i'll need to research first before trying it:)
 

Don Gin and Ton

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furry muff lad. i've got 2 full kits of those autopots in the garage, tried them had problems hated them cost me a couple of hundred quid. they go for nowt on-line now. growing is a fucking huge learning curve.

i'm just going hydro, built my own dwc and bought a new aquafarm to play with this week. missus is parra with all the water and eleccy in the same room but if the yield smashed my coco and airpots i'll go all hydro. and yeah there are peopl that bash the taste of hydro over soil. but round my end you could tell them it was grown in dolomite and they'd no ne fuckin difference.

strains i've got taste lush regardless what you grow them in so i'm told but i'll judge myself in about 3 months :roll:
 

trichome 1

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Aye, a job is always something to take into account when considering cannabis, let alone growing.

The first grow is always expensive, due to the startup costs, but after that it all gets rather cheap :) And generally your yields will just increase with each grow under the belt. I don't know your setup, but for auto's you don't really want to be growing them under 12/12, so unless you have a second grow room for the autos, then it would be more productive to keep it all to one or the other. Give it 6 months and you'll be cracking open the mason jars and laughing. When i was buying it was always a case of dividing bags into joints, being careful about how much goes in the grinder etc, once you've got a draw full of mason jars you just grab a fat nug and the joint will be as big as it wants. It is a fantastic feeling not to be sat there thinking that you just smoked up a fiver in a single rizzla :) The downside naturally is that after a year or whatnot of being used to smoking for near nothing, and if you are selling any, then you can be getting paid to smoke, then should you stop growing, it becomes very painful handing over good money for bugger all of mediocre weed :(
im growing 18/6 and will be doing this for another 10 weeks + then i'll flip im copying another scrogger that done a journal cant remember his name but he yielded 11oz per plant :) I just hope that once I have grown this grow I don't feel so on edge all the time, I also stay awake till silly times because I worry about a fire lol, I the chance of a fire is rare but I still cant sleep knowing the hot mh bulb is on,a helicopter just came so close to my house a couple of kids outside are waving to the fucker,i look out and its gone :shock:
 

The2TimEr

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You should go DWC 2timer. It removes time and effort from the equation :) I'd fill up my res once a week, or even once every 2 weeks once i got a 100l res due to basement lighting being bellends, and the only real time and effort involved is the trimming. £15/g to mates is ludicrous though, even if it isn't readily available in your area. It'#s each to their own though, I prefered just to give mates weed knowing they'll enjoy a nice smoke when they get home.
I've looked at hydro before dude but i would need a hell of alot more space which i don't have.
I understand your views on the pricing mate becuase you are from the mainland ;) if you lived here and see what i see those views would change. If the most standard hash you can imagine is being sold at 10-12 quid per g then i certainly won't be dishing the green out at the same or less.
Most of every harvest i crop is kept for myself anyway. maybe 25 % will be sold.
 

tip top toker

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I've looked at hydro before dude but i would need a hell of alot more space which i don't have.
I understand your views on the pricing mate becuase you are from the mainland ;) if you lived here and see what i see those views would change. If the most standard hash you can imagine is being sold at 10-12 quid per g then i certainly won't be dishing the green out at the same or less.
Most of every harvest i crop is kept for myself anyway. maybe 25 % will be sold.
Being from the mainland has nothing to do with anything for me. I never sold anything for profit, the regional prices had no bearing on my prices. If a friend insisted on giving me a tenner then i just gave em a jar and said take what you like. Didn't really bother me :) For me, weed has no real value, it's a plant that pretty much grows itself. Other people are different, i just never had any desire to use my cannabis as a cash source, that's what my job was for.

And you'd be surprised with hydro. Most who saw my cupboard that i grew in were aware of the space i had to play with, barely any, think it was 1 meter by 50cm, i got hydro into there without an issue, a lot of the hydro plants i grew actually had a smaller footprint than when i was growing in pots with soil/coco. Hydro can be any size you want it to be, just buy the appropriate container, ust as you'd buy an appropriate sized pot.
 

tip top toker

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furry muff lad. i've got 2 full kits of those autopots in the garage, tried them had problems hated them cost me a couple of hundred quid. they go for nowt on-line now. growing is a fucking huge learning curve.

i'm just going hydro, built my own dwc and bought a new aquafarm to play with this week. missus is parra with all the water and eleccy in the same room but if the yield smashed my coco and airpots i'll go all hydro. and yeah there are peopl that bash the taste of hydro over soil. but round my end you could tell them it was grown in dolomite and they'd no ne fuckin difference.

strains i've got taste lush regardless what you grow them in so i'm told but i'll judge myself in about 3 months :roll:
I havn't tried airpots, but i did the regular soils, coco, coco and autopots, and dwc simply demolished them. A bit more tempermental i'll give you that, but overall much easier and much bigger yields.

My autopots are in the garage, might actually break em out this summer and grow some fruit or herbs in em out in the garden. Might as well make use of em if i can, but yeah, i agree, load of bollocks imo. Mine were nothing but a pain, overflowed more times than i can count regardless of tweaking the smartvalves.

I'll have to try and keep up with your grow in the aquafarms. Was always really tempted to buy a pair. Looked ideal, the waterfarms being that little bit too small imo. My only worries were the drip rings clogging up having seen the amount of crap that get's onto airlines and airstones in my dwc buckets.

I also stay awake till silly times because I worry about a fire lol, I the chance of a fire is rare
Not to put you on edge, but ask Don about fire in the grow room :D But nah, he's the only person i've seen on this forum who experienced it.
 
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