The Ultimate grow room design set-up

It's been a while since I've been on RollItUP I'm relocating to another state where I may grow cannabis. I currently do not grow. Although, I'll have the mean to acquire a proper Marijuana set up. I've researched time and time again,now I'm seeking professional opinion from the grower community.

My goal is not to show off on how much I spent,but more as the efficiency that I might achieve using a costly set-up. I want the process to be straight forward, cost efficient, while keeping in mind to being environmentally friendly(no supplement lighting/extra wattage). I feel theirs no point in growing if I don't grow with organic nutrients.

-With all that said this is my plan.
-10x10 Gorilla Grow Tent
-Current Culture DWC XL-8
-Growers Choice Master Pursuit 1000 Watt - https://hydrobuilder.com/grow-light-bulbs-ballasts-hoods/lec-grow-lights-541/growers-choice-master-pursuit-1000w-cmh-grow-light-system-with-dual-cmh-bulbs.html
-Advanced Nutrient-Organic Line
-C02

I have adequate information about the majority of items I'm going to use the thing that's bothering me is the grow light situation. I've decided no matter what LED is no good for me. I don't care how much science you put out there I want a spectrum as close as the sun I'm able to get I want quality!!!. Obviously, HPS is dead to me. In my opinion that's suited for commercial growers because they tend to pursue the most bang for the buck and growing strains for most output not quality. Obviously CMH is the clear winner here, but I here absolutely nothing about this light. My main concern will be heat issues knowing I only have 10 feet height.

Also, I have a few sativa I want to grow but that might be more suited for another thread....

Before youtube this was the place with all the info for growing so I came back with the master grow Journal which should start in August.

If you are going CMH, I recommend sticking to the 315w bulbs. Those 500s look very rare and once they stop making them what do you do? Plus I would want to stick to Philips or Gavita bulbs.

Consumer grade

Professional grade

You could also consider a HPS/MH combo grow. Run 2 1000w double ended HPS bulbs for every 1000w MH bulb. Or one and one.

if going cmh the dual 630w ballasts allow you to put 2 different bulbs (3200k 4200k) or w.e in them so you can cover more spectrums!

JoeBlow5823 said:

If you are going CMH, I recommend sticking to the 315w bulbs. Those 500s look very rare and once they stop making them what do you do? Plus I would want to stick to Philips or Gavita bulbs.

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The spectrum that they're advertising is amazing, I'm not sure of the consumer tested specs. since I haven't found anyone that has posted information about the lights. My main concern at the moment is heat issues, if any.

Gwhiliker said:

if going cmh the dual 630w ballasts allow you to put 2 different bulbs (3200k 4200k) or w.e in them so you can cover more spectrums!

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I just want to use them straight forward plug them in and see what happens. 4k, for grow, adjust between the bloom bulbs for quality.

understood, 315s are probably the way to go then, more even spacing and probably a little easier to manage the heat

The Philips 4200K bulb also has a spectrum extremely similar to sunlight. I would just be confident you will be able to get philips or gavita 315 bulbs for the next 20 years. That odd ball 500w. Who knows.

JoeBlow5823 said:

The Philips 4200K bulb also has a spectrum extremely similar to sunlight. I would just be confident you will be able to get philips or gavita 315 bulbs for the next 20 years. That odd ball 500w. Who knows.

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You're absolutely right, and I felt the same way about some odd ball corporation. My little research beforehand came with this result,his light has caught fire through fault cord. Now they have a thicker cord which can't be removed.

Still their spectrum is undeniably something to serious consider purchasing. No one seems to have step up to be the test dummy on this product neither any praise I've heard of which is alarming(for the specs)... But the spectrum you can't deny it....It calls for you.... That is extremely impressive....

smokethatkushh said:

You're absolutely right, and I felt the same way about some odd boy corporation. My little research beforehand came with this result,his light has caught fire through fault cord. Now they have a thicker cord which can't be removed.

Still their spectrum is undeniably something to serious consider purchasing. No one seems to have step up to be the test dummy on this product neither any praise I've heard of which is alarming(for the specs)... But the spectrum you can't deny it....It calls for you.... That is extremely impressive....
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That spectrum looks "smoothed" like this one looks like actual readings where the ones you posted look like a computer has smoothed out the peaks and valleys. They look like very similar spectrums. Philips has been in the lighting game forever and there are several independent tests on their bulbs that put them as the best CMH available.

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Growers Choice Master Pursuit

JoeBlow5823 said:

That spectrum looks "smoothed" like this one looks like actual readings where the ones you posted look like a computer has smoothed out the peaks and valleys. They look like very similar spectrums. Philips has been in the lighting game forever and there are several independent tests on their bulbs that put them as the best CMH available.

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Wow you know what, you right! Those values were rounded to make the reading seem dead accurate or more appealing to the consumers eyes. If anything the quality of this might die in 5 months or something giving a subpar spectrum. It's been in the market for some years and not a single word. I'm shifting towards the Phillips now. Thanks a lot for replying that's why the forums beat youtube and stuff any day. Something that good and been around for a while with no word from anybody doesn't sound to good..... At least, I know Phillips is high quality and accurately described bulb.

JoeBlow5823 said:

That spectrum looks "smoothed" like this one looks like actual readings where the ones you posted look like a computer has smoothed out the peaks and valleys. They look like very similar spectrums. Philips has been in the lighting game forever and there are several independent tests on their bulbs that put them as the best CMH available.

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ill keep this in mind as well

Comparing some of the tech specs from each bulbs manufacturer

Philips
34300 lumen = 109 lumen per watt
30780 lumen at 8,000 hours of use = 98 lumen per watt

Grower choice
45000 lumen = 90 lumen per watt

So the Philips is still more efficient after 8000 hours than a brand new Grower choice.

Average life from Philips 20,000 hours. Rated life from Grower choice 15,000 hours.

Philips seems like a clear winner to me. You will be able to run 10-20% less total watts and get the same amount of light. You will be able to put up 6 of the dual 315 fixtures and get 38w/square foot in a 10x10. I do see where running 4 of the grower choice 1000w fixtures for 40w/square foot sounds more appealing but 6 dual 315 fixtures will give you 411600 lumen from 3780 total watts while 4 1000w will give you 360000 lumen from 4000 total watts. Philips comes out to 220w less and 14% more light.

Huge vertical reflector option. Just add bulb.


I have 2 w 3k philips.

TintEastwood said:

Huge vertical reflector option. Just add bulb.

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I have 2 w 3k philips.

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He would need a dozen of those....

JoeBlow5823 said:

Comparing some of the tech specs from each bulbs manufacturer

Philips
34300 lumen = 109 lumen per watt
30780 lumen at 8,000 hours of use = 98 lumen per watt

Grower choice
45000 lumen = 90 lumen per watt

So the Philips is still more efficient after 8000 hours than a brand new Grower choice.

Average life from Philips 20,000 hours. Rated life from Grower choice 15,000 hours.

Philips seems like a clear winner to me. You will be able to run 10-20% less total watts and get the same amount of light. You will be able to put up 6 of the dual 315 fixtures and get 38w/square foot in a 10x10. I do see where running 4 of the grower choice 1000w fixtures for 40w/square foot sounds more appealing but 6 dual 315 fixtures will give you 411600 lumen from 3780 total watts while 4 1000w will give you 360000 lumen from 4000 total watts. Philips comes out to 220w less and 14% more light.

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I'll go for this setup thanks a million. I'll go for the multiple SunMaster Lecs. At least I know I'll be able to control the temps vs a 500 watt cmh

smokethatkushh said:

I'll go for this setup thanks a million I'll go for the multiple SunMaster Lecs. At least I know I'll be able to control the temps.

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Close to 4000w of lights is still going to put off a lot of heat just so you know.

JoeBlow5823 said:

Close to 4000w of lights is still going to put off a lot of heat just so you know.

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Of Course, at least the direct radiant heat from the lamp itself wont fry the plants vs. 1000 watt cmh/hps.

smokethatkushh said:

Of Course, at least the direct radiant heat from the lamp itself wont fry the plants vs. 1000 watt cmh/hid.

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I think you meant 1000w hps but yeah with a 10 foot height and cmh bulbs you shouldnt have the radiant heat issues you would have with 1000w hps bulbs.

JoeBlow5823 said:

I think you meant 1000w hps but yeah with a 10 foot height and cmh bulbs you shouldnt have the radiant heat issues you would have with 1000w hps bulbs.

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What's your opinion on about getting more yields using a HPS more quality. He wasn't to clear on his professional opinion, I'm looking for more quality.