~The Vumar Grow~ RDWC

Vumar said:

Any ideas here guys?

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I have seen heat do that to my leaves, and also damage from getting blown around from the fan. The wrinkly and twisted leaves could be many things, but it could be a virus. These things are often under the radar and dont really become a problem unless the plant gets stressed. I have used asprin to help the plant overlook the virus and just focus on growth. It basically tells the plant to stop trying to fix the symptoms and just grow normally. It has pulled some pretty whack lookin clones out of a funk for me in the past. The only reason I say this is because adding it doesnt hurt and could only help.
25 pills in RO water and let it sit for 24 hours and pour off the top really slow just to keep the fillers out. Good for 50 gals

Bacteria flush flush.

polyarcturus said:

Bacteria flush flush.

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I use Hydroguard though, are you saying h202 will solve my problem? Because I tried to run it for 4 days and didnt do much. =/

firsttimeARE said:

Hmmm turgor is weak. You use silica at all?

I know that can help plants turgidity

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I use Dutchmaster Silica =( and have aggressive fan use.

Naw different Bacteria have different weaknesses especially trich. Which h2o2 will have no effect.

So you do think its a bacteria? If so, in the leaf? or the root? I just don't know what I am dealing with here honestly.

I can blast it with ZHO, Great White, and Hydroguard all at once <3 =) If that'll do it hahha.

It's the roots you need to let the soil really dry after just a plain water flush.

Another option is inoculation if you can introduce enough other organisms the competition will beat it back.

Well I can't dry it out considering its hydro. My roots are pearly white and yet you are sure its a BAD bacteria problem thats showing up on the leaves? I guess I will try a ZHO/EWC tea

For future reference Flying Skull z7.

DB whats in Flying Skull z7 that you swear by? I know what it is, but how does it work =P

enzymes. Works well for me.
Read about it.

DynaGro (Bloom version, 3-12-6) and Dutchmaster Flower (A+B mix) both claim they require about 15 ML PER gallon. Is this correct?

I have about 78 gallons of water which means 1,170ml of Dynagro Bloom? This seems awefully high and VERY expensive =/

Another question; why is it that almost all nutrient bottles say to add more if you are using a re-circulating system? I read somewhere that the pump takes certain elements out of the water as well. @ttystikk Any experience with this water pump rumor?

Vumar said:

DynaGro (Bloom version, 3-12-6) and Dutchmaster Flower (A+B mix) both claim they require about 15 ML PER gallon. Is this correct?

I have about 78 gallons of water which means 1,170ml of Dynagro Bloom? This seems awefully high and VERY expensive =/

Another question; why is it that almost all nutrient bottles say to add more if you are using a re-circulating system? I read somewhere that the pump takes certain elements out of the water as well. @ttystikk Any experience with this water pump rumor?

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Use the ratios recommended by the nutrient makers, eg 15ml of part A, 15 ml of part B = 1:1, but then dilute to an appropriate nutrient strength level for your system. I'd start with 1.2 EC in very dry conditions, maybe 1.4 if your room is consistently in the fifties for RH. In veg, pH between 5.5-5.8, early bloom 5.8- 6.0, late bloom let it creep up to 6.5.

Yes, water bottled nutrients are very expensive, which is why I don't use them.

ttystikk said:

Use the ratios recommended by the nutrient makers, eg 15ml of part A, 15 ml of part B = 1:1, but then dilute to an appropriate nutrient strength level for your system. I'd start with 1.2 EC in very dry conditions, maybe 1.4 if your room is consistently in the fifties for RH. In veg, pH between 5.5-5.8, early bloom 5.8- 6.0, late bloom let it creep up to 6.5.

Yes, water bottled nutrients are very expensive, which is why I don't use them.

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Can you recommend another method, recipe, or feeding schedule you may have.

Vumar said:

Can you recommend another method, recipe, or feeding schedule you may have.

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I use dry nutrient salts from Hydrogardens.com. These are very much like Jacks, both are commercial grade hydroponic nutrient systems. I like Hydrogardens better because they don't have as many impurities and they don't use dye to hide them.

Commercial greenhouses growing tomatoes and salad vegetables use them to produce food, so there's nothing unsafe or unclean about them. Good enough for cucumbers = plenty good enough for cannabis, lol

I use FOUR salts;
1. 5-11-26 'hi K' hydroponic mix, with micros from Hydrogardens
2. Calcium nitrate
3. Epsom salt, aka mag sulfate heptahydrate
4. MKP, monopotassium phosphate

That's exactly everything. I use pH up and down, brands matter less than strength per dollar spent. Stronger n cheaper = better. I've even used sulfuric acid, aka battery acid, sourced directly from AutoZone! It worked fine by the way, just treat it with respect.

I think Im going to stick with some dynagro, sea kelp, sweetner, microbes, and some soil on the side!

Vumar said:

I think Im going to stick with some dynagro, sea kelp, sweetner, microbes, and some soil on the side!

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I get it. Everyone fears what they don't understand.

Ttystikk, I am willing to try it if you are willing to give some guidance =P