HeatlessBBQ
Well-Known Member
the 70s are back
There sure are a lot of protests these days
doublejj
Well-Known Member
it's worse than I thought already......Let me give some advice to all, happy and sad.
It will never be as good as you think. It will never be as bad as you think.
So, calm down, and Roll It Up
HeatlessBBQ
Well-Known Member
Muslims be prayin' at DIA
visajoe1
Well-Known Member
How have you been affected? What changed in your day? Were you planning to marry someone from Iran next month? Is your paycheck smaller? What do you do for work? Are you just sad?
I disliked Obama for one reason only really, Obamacare. My monthly costs have almost doubled. My annual deductible and out of pocket limits has MORE than doubled. I would now have to spend TRIPLE my annual premium for insurance to even start kicking in, and only partially. I have the best insurance my company offers, PPO Blue Shield. Why am I paying so much more for less?? Is it because of the folks I'm subsidizing that pay next to nothing and are free to go as often as they want??
Millions of people experienced this, and many much worse than I.
There is two good things that did come out of Obamacare though, and I believe they will stay due to widespread popularity on both side of the isle. The first, insurers cant deny coverage (although I think they should price riskier plans higher just like someone with a bad driving record has expensive car insurance), and the second is allowing children to stay on parents insurance until age 26.
FYI, healthcare has always been subsidized. Its why someone with insurance pays more, and the homeless person off the street can walk into ER and be treated for $0 (as it should be, homeless still deserve healthcare).
No matter what position you take, this is a very complicated problem. One that should never have been approached by "passing it to find out whats inside" to quote Ms Pelosi...
I disliked Obama for one reason only really, Obamacare. My monthly costs have almost doubled. My annual deductible and out of pocket limits has MORE than doubled. I would now have to spend TRIPLE my annual premium for insurance to even start kicking in, and only partially. I have the best insurance my company offers, PPO Blue Shield. Why am I paying so much more for less?? Is it because of the folks I'm subsidizing that pay next to nothing and are free to go as often as they want??
Millions of people experienced this, and many much worse than I.
There is two good things that did come out of Obamacare though, and I believe they will stay due to widespread popularity on both side of the isle. The first, insurers cant deny coverage (although I think they should price riskier plans higher just like someone with a bad driving record has expensive car insurance), and the second is allowing children to stay on parents insurance until age 26.
FYI, healthcare has always been subsidized. Its why someone with insurance pays more, and the homeless person off the street can walk into ER and be treated for $0 (as it should be, homeless still deserve healthcare).
No matter what position you take, this is a very complicated problem. One that should never have been approached by "passing it to find out whats inside" to quote Ms Pelosi...
HeatlessBBQ
Well-Known Member
HeatlessBBQ
Well-Known Member
srh88
Well-Known Member
doublejj
Well-Known Member
and most of them have guns......
Big_Lou
Well-Known Member
gotta hate when people get violent
Don't you like how he just casually suggests vehicular manslaughter?
Fuckin dumb nazi trash.
HeatlessBBQ
Well-Known Member
best advice of 2017 ^
Emergency services can't respond to those in need when roads get blocked, these people are idiots.
Imagine if some clown is stupid enough to pull a gun. Every vehicle will panic and every protester will get run over by the time it's over.
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
Let me give some advice to all, happy and sad.
It will never be as good as you think. It will never be as bad as you think.
So, calm down, and Roll It Up
tell that to my family members who died in the holocaust.
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
your premiums are about to skyrocket and people who were simply overseas visiting their families can't come back.
if it happened to you, you'd be sobbing like a little bitch.
but you dehumanize muslims because you are a bigoted piece of shit, so no big deal.
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
you sat silently through bridge-gate, so i will just note your hypocrisy.
tangerinegreen555
Well-Known Member
I have PPO, just like you!
$175 a month, $300 total deductable a year. Wife has exactly the same.
You employer actually controls what those heaIth insurance policies contain, you know that, right.
Maybe your employer sucks like your fucking douche nozzel opinions.
Right to work state, sucker?
* before I retired, it was 100% free.
visajoe1
Well-Known Member
Im not sure you're comparison to yourself before you retired is comparable to now considering the regulations were entirely different then. Which is the exact point I'm making. You sound like a retired union worker, am I right? (notice a question rather than assumption)
WeedFreak78
Well-Known Member
He is correct. When ACA went into effect, my company only selected plans which saved the corporation money, pushing cost onto the employees. Because it was offered through my employer, and I was over the earning threshold, I couldn't choose a out of company plan. My company could have easily choose plans that were more affordable to the employees at the same cost to the company as before, but they don't care.
Get used to it, Trump and his amin isn't friendly to labor. Expect mandatory 70 hr weeks in a couple years, with no OT , no ins and a high personal tax burden. All while the corporations pocket all that money.
We're going to be a 3rd world, corporate owned, slave nation.
Similar threads
