THESE PLANTS NEED HELP!!

Hey y'all, so I'm having some issues with some seedlings that sprouted about a week ago. They were fine until about 3 days ago when I noticed that they started looking overwatered. I'm using coco coir and perlite mix and this is also my 2nd grow. My 1st grow went so well I had a few gentlemen contact me to try growing their seeds however I find this initial process is the most sensitive time for the plant and most difficult to see through. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I did introduce nutes 1/4 strength. They're salt nutes dyna gro grow nute. I was just spraying the media twice a day then someone suggested using a shot glass 2 times daily per plant. I feel like this is too much water and my fear is bc I'm using coco and salt nutes that if I don't flush consistently or basically water them like you would a mature plant in coco until 10-20% runoff? I checked them this morning and the coco still seems heavy. What I don't want is for the nutes to burn the root due to lack of oxygen bc the coco needs to dry. I was thinking out transplanting into solo cups today putting dry coco beneath the wet and surrounding so it draws the moisture away from the roots allowing them to breath. I'm not sure. Again, any advise would help immensely. Thanks! Here's some pics of the buds I got off my first plant. I have a ton of pictures but I really want to focus on this grow. Hopefully I can get some answers. All I did last time if I remember correctly Iisted the media until damp twice a day. Can you overwater coco? Well for some reason I can't upload the pics right now but for example the top leaves are curling down, paler than the cotyledons but they don't look too bad. Maybe a little nitrogen deficient and overwatered. I'll upload pics when I can. The pods are still pretty heavy indicating it's still wet as well. Stems look great. Humidity has been a bit of an issue for me getting a consistent 60% which was suggested by the breeder. Anyway sorry for the book and anyone willing to lend some wisdome, I'm all ears.

I don't do coco, so I can't help there.

Seedlings do not need nutrients until the cotyledon have started to shrivel/yellow, so they don't need to be fed.

It's only your 2nd grow, so try not to overthink things & keep it simple, don't kill them with kindness.

Truthfully, I'd suggest transplanting to soil (in a week or 2) and do a couple of runs in dirt to get some experience, then go to coco. IMO soil is by far, the most forgiving growing medium.

Good luck

You do in fact want to feed seedlings in coco, at low ppms. They look a tiny bit overwatered, maybe? I have to admit to not reading the entire text wall to know what issue you think you're seeing.

Can seedlings be overwatered in coco?

Not in my experience, but if left super swampy, probably?

Your coco looks drier than a 90 year old tit

Start soaking those little cubes daily with your nutrient solution and they should turn around within a week and be ready to transplant.

Your stems look nowhere near great. They should be green, not bright purple

Hugo Phurst said:

I don't do coco, so I can't help there.

Seedlings do not need nutrients until the cotyledon have started to shrivel/yellow, so they don't need to be fed.

It's only your 2nd grow, so try not to overthink things & keep it simple, don't kill them with kindness.

Truthfully, I'd suggest transplanting to soil (in a week or 2) and do a couple of runs in dirt to get some experience, then go to coco. IMO soil is by far, the most forgiving growing medium.

Good luck

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So you’re suggesting he plants in ”dirt” in 2 weeks? What should he do until then?

bk78 said:

So you’re suggesting he plants in ”dirt” in 2 weeks? What should he do until then?

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Nothing.....leave them, don't transplant, no food or treated/ph'd water till seed leaves are fading.

Like I said. I don't do coco, but I'd only water when the seedlings feel light.

Hugo Phurst said:

no food or treated/ph'd water till seed leaves are fading

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why let them starve? if they yellow, that proves they need food

They are developing roots and need more food and water as they do
Wet that coco to run off with light nutes
They will thrive
There is no dry cycle in coco once established

Hugo Phurst said:

Nothing.....leave them, don't transplant, no food or treated/ph'd water till seed leaves are fading.

Like I said. I don't do coco, but I'd only water when the seedlings feel light.

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You should stick to giving advice growing in “dirt”

bk78 said:

Your coco looks drier than a 90 year old tit

Start soaking those little cubes daily with your nutrient solution and they should turn around within a week and be ready to transplant.

Your stems look nowhere near great. They should be green, not bright purple

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I don't expect anything to really be "amazing" considering it is my 2nd grow so I don't expect perfection. What is causing my stems to turn purple? The breeder I spoke with seems to think it's too cold in the grow tent so I got temp up some. I did know you feed coco seedlings. I grew in coco last time and I love the results but I would like to get some dirt to grow Im it's just been a matter of finances bc when I started I bought a ton of coco. I do water twice daily and my ppm is around 150. Par is at 150. So I feel like everything I'm doing is fine it's the temp so hopefully me getting the temp up helps things some. Could the stems be lookng that way due to temp?

Herb & Suds said:

They are developing roots and need more food and water as they do
Wet that coco to run off with light nutes
They will thrive
There is no dry cycle in coco once established

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This is what I was thinking too that you would water seedlings to run off just like a mature plant. Thanks! Just as an example though this is my first plant grown pictured below. Last time the first few weeks was my biggest set back not knowing what I was doing and was lucky enough to make it to the point where I was able to get advice. Texas butter pictured below. From a dispensary bag seed from a cut of Texas butter (Stardawg x banana og)

Means they're ready for food

bk78 said:

You should stick to giving advice growing in “dirt”

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Sure thing, whatever you say

In straight coco I'd probably give them a regular, half-strength dilution of Alaska fish fertilizer/water and keep the coco damp at all times with it. Wait for some roots to develop before hitting them with all the secret formulas. And, if all else fails and all the organic brews and secret formulas, etc., become too confusing, then just grab a bottle of Schultz liquid plant food, dilute it to 1/4 strength and water with that for the duration of the grow. I know I'll probably catch Hell for saying that, but, in my experience, it's a great fertilizer. It's foolproof. It's cheap and available. It's the slut of commercial fertilizers! heh

you cant over water coco unless its not rinsed good enough. even when fully wet its still perfect h20/air ratios which for basic use you tend to keep it there as the roots love it. by week 2? that only needs one week, thats just a whole other week its not exploding in growth inits final container.

mixing dirt and coco just ruins this. this is the easiest part of it all, after sprout. its just one week feed with 1:1:1 nutes .5ec total (distilled) , it wont burn and actually uses it (clearly.) keep temps above 72F.

then transplant and continue with your skills.

It’s coco, hydroponics, water til run off with fresh oxygenated nutrient solution, no such thing as “over watered” just underoxygenated. Yellowing cotelydons prove they’re hungry, Listen to the lion haha @bk78 yeah I give u props lol

Hugo Phurst said:

Nothing.....leave them, don't transplant, no food or treated/ph'd water till seed leaves are fading.

Like I said. I don't do coco, but I'd only water when the seedlings feel light.

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Why would you wait to see problems before doing what you should be doing from the getgo