while i don't think meidas touch is bad people, they're kind of obnoxious and long winded...Ben can't make a video under ten minutes long, and 8 minutes of that will be his personal opinions. and he usually has a fleck of something on his lip....
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but seriously, he and Popock both have to look up the definition of brevity, and while they're at it, the definition of concise wouldn't hurt.