Thug pug genetics anyone?

If you had all of that herm it was more than just a defol stressing them.
That puts me in an even tougher spot because the defoliation is the only thing I could've thought of. My temps are always between 75-80 humidity in the mid 50%s. Growing in living soil. Feeding coconut powder, soy aminos, and a ferment once a week other than that it's water only. Plants are showing no signs of toxicity or deficiencies. Getting about 800-850 PAR reading at the top of the canopy. I'm stumped to say the least
 
Nice list of packs there. Super jealous. They can be finicky strains, but I’d definitely agree it’s something in your environment or routine that’s causing so many herms.
I really don't know what it could be. My environment is pretty dialed in. I know my brother has watered in pretty cold water a handful of times and I know he did last week. Plants got prayer hands all day tho so I'm pretty confused at this point I'm just air punching mad at life. I'm thinking about cloning everything worth keeping and giving it a 2nd go next run because this is bumming me out. Saved these packs for so long just for this to go so wrong :(
 

Learning1234

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I really don't know what it could be. My environment is pretty dialed in. I know my brother has watered in pretty cold water a handful of times and I know he did last week. Plants got prayer hands all day tho so I'm pretty confused at this point I'm just air punching mad at life. I'm thinking about cloning everything worth keeping and giving it a 2nd go next run because this is bumming me out. Saved these packs for so long just for this to go so wrong :(
Sorry to hear this happened to you and especially with those packs. Shocking the roots with really cold water a few times in flower could definitely cause some intersex traits to shoot out. That’s quite a bit of stress. Why is your brother doing that to you? Ha.
 

Antidote Man

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he charges waay too much money, only sells his who knows what mixes, most of which are sweet, candy, cookie, gellato, etc strains with little of the older elite genetics., certainly not preserving anything just making new stuff..
 

Jay Unity

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That puts me in an even tougher spot because the defoliation is the only thing I could've thought of. My temps are always between 75-80 humidity in the mid 50%s. Growing in living soil. Feeding coconut powder, soy aminos, and a ferment once a week other than that it's water only. Plants are showing no signs of toxicity or deficiencies. Getting about 800-850 PAR reading at the top of the canopy. I'm stumped to say the least
Light leak maybe? Check your timers and make sure they're still correct. I've bumped mine before and had my lights coming on for 15 min in the middle of a dark period. I know it sucks but there is a reason. Check out the optic foliar switch before you trash all that goodness. I would get a clone off of them to try again later if you decide to cut the cord
 
Sorry to hear this happened to you and especially with those packs. Shocking the roots with really cold water a few times in flower could definitely cause some intersex traits to shoot out. That’s quite a bit of stress. Why is your brother doing that to you? Ha.
Damn thats really a bummer to hear that. Especially after I told him to stop doing that. I just know he did because I can touch the soil and feel how cold it is. He's lazy when it comes to certain things and sure enough he really did it this time. I'm thinking now the cold water plus the massive defoliation probably caused the plants to think they were dying and did what nature does. Do anything to pass on its genetics. So disappointed right now but thank you all for reaching out and being kind!
 
Light leak maybe? Check your timers and make sure they're still correct. I've bumped mine before and had my lights coming on for 15 min in the middle of a dark period. I know it sucks but there is a reason. Check out the optic foliar switch before you trash all that goodness. I would get a clone off of them to try again later if you decide to cut the cord
I can't trash it I just can't. I thought about it atleast 10 times today and I definitely cut down the plants that had balls for days. A solid 3 plants. Other than that I'm plucking balls off. I figured since more hermied than not I might as well push em through flower and see what happens. I might have seeded bud but hopefully it isn't too bad. About to get a heater for the water reservoir so there isn't any way my brother can water with cold water anymore. Thinking he could've shocked the roots last week and with me defoliating as heavy as I did yesterday on top of it I'm thinking I put the icing on the cake or maybe they were already hermied and I only noticed because I defoliated. Definitely got me questioning everything right now.
 
This sounds like stress and as @Jay Unity mentioned, this really sounds like a light leak or something. Never seen heavy defoliation cause herms, though I jave heard it can if you go way overboard far too often, but doesn't sound like you did. Sorry to hear.
2 different sealed flowering rooms so a light leak just seems unlikely but I will be double checking all my timers in the morning
 
2 different sealed flowering rooms so a light leak just seems unlikely but I will be double checking all my timers in the morning
Another thing I've noticed lately, may be something I'm doing wrong, but a few times now I've had nanners at day 30 give or take when I grew from seed, ran them again but from clone, and was fine. Also had it where I re ran and the herm showed up sooner. Worth trying if they look decent.
 

Omkarananda

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Someone in the local community ran some PBB and got a killer pheno and a frosty OGKB male, he made some f2s that I’m now growing out! 5/8 ended up being males :(

Here’s one pheno at day 37 of flower.
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this one smells like rotten flesh and GAS⛽
ive got two other females I’ll take pics of later :)
Sounds like ogkb terps and looks like a decent yielder too for the stretchy pheno. Nice!
 

YourStonerBuddy

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Sounds like ogkb terps and looks like a decent yielder too for the stretchy pheno. Nice!
Thanks for the info! She ticks a lot of boxes, can’t wait to see her finish up and then smoke some.

My #2 pheno is even frostier with sweet & musky/funk terps, won’t be a bad yielder either, she started packing on the frost way earlier than the other phenos.

PBB f2 #2
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Omkarananda

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Thanks for the info! She ticks a lot of boxes, can’t wait to see her finish up and then smoke some.

My #2 pheno is even frostier with sweet & musky/funk terps, won’t be a bad yielder either, she started packing on the frost way earlier than the other phenos.

PBB f2 #2
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Your #2 sounds more like my keeper pheno. I've noticed 3 phenos of pbb: 1- Stretchy with light green leaves, least frosty, I'd describe the terps like og 2- OGKB mutant leaves, slow growing, gas terps #3-(Keeper pheno, IMO...not a fan of the ogkb) Stretchy with dark leaves, more frosty, best terps, like sweet spices and menthol kinda stuff... delicious and good and potent.
I'm excited for you homie! I'm about to post a pic of my keeper that I'm f2ing with a male that looks really similar...stretch/dark leaves.
 

ketamine_disposal_unit

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Your #2 sounds more like my keeper pheno. I've noticed 3 phenos of pbb: 1- Stretchy with light green leaves, least frosty, I'd describe the terps like og 2- OGKB mutant leaves, slow growing, gas terps #3
I'm currently growing that Truffle Breath from Fresh Coast (a PBB hybrid) as well as a Gorilla Breath from HSO (ogkb x gg4)

In the Truffle Breath I got 2/10 OGKB phenos and In the GB I got 1/4 OGKB phenos. Pretty weird little plants. Rock hard frosty and stinky weirs little pinecone nugz. Haven't grown harvested yet... are the OGKBs worth revegging?

Another one of the Truffle Breath phenos has these tight as fuck fristy ogkb buds on a taller plant structure and definitely looks to be a keeper
 
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