Thug pug genetics anyone?

DEXTERxMORGAN said:

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Peace.Remember said:

Anybody have a copy of gromers nectar recipe?

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LeftOurEyes said:

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thctimmy said:

Thanks, never ran this gear but always check here to see the great flowers you all put out. Can anyone drop some knowledge on what this is, or is it just what Gromer has come up with as his best feeding mix that he swears by? Peace all

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ketamine_disposal_unit said:

I popped a pack or Garlic Breath 2.0 (13 seeds) and it's come down to like 3 or 4 of them being actual plants that look like they're gonna be anything decent. 2 mutant seedlings (prob ogkb) and 4 didn't pop at all and then there's like 3 or 4 seedlings that are just really struggling. Not only that but the seeds that did pop took like nearly a week or more to do so

Is this normal? Are the seeds real old? I bought them earlier in the year from terpy. A little disappointed so far. Popped 6 more beans from other breeders growing in exact same conditions that are thriving.

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thctimmy said:

Thanks, never ran this gear but always check here to see the great flowers you all put out. Can anyone drop some knowledge on what this is, or is it just what Gromer has come up with as his best feeding mix that he swears by? Peace all

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Dividedsky said:

Honestly nectar is a LOT of nutes...if your just running in promix you'd probably have better results running nute like canna or athena

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LeftOurEyes said:

This is Gromer's Nectar for the Gods recipe. I use nectar but not this recipe/amounts, though this is pretty close to the recommended amounts the company says to use for the strongest concentration. Gromer just uses it full strength all the time instead of lighter during veg which is a little weird or wasteful probably. What I use is pretty close with a few other things added and a couple dry amendments and get great results.



Other brands are probably cheaper and certainly easier to use. Athena is DEFINITELY not better for quality though, I personally think no synthetics brands are either. I have a buddy who swears by Athena and his flowers have no terps compared to mine and a few of my buddies said it gives them headaches. It's not the cure either, the guys been growing for 20+ years and knows how to grow. First going organic I didn't notice a big difference in taste or quality when smoking, now it's usually pretty apparent when I try someone else's weed though. I would probably switch to organic living soil beds if I could control the amounts of stuff in the beds better, but it is hard to have a variety of plants together including breeding stuff all in organic beds so to me organic based bottles is the next best thing.

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LeftOurEyes said:

This is Gromer's Nectar for the Gods recipe. I use nectar but not this recipe/amounts, though this is pretty close to the recommended amounts the company says to use for the strongest concentration. Gromer just uses it full strength all the time instead of lighter during veg which is a little weird or wasteful probably. What I use is pretty close with a few other things added and a couple dry amendments and get great results.



Other brands are probably cheaper and certainly easier to use. Athena is DEFINITELY not better for quality though, I personally think no synthetics brands are either. I have a buddy who swears by Athena and his flowers have no terps compared to mine and a few of my buddies said it gives them headaches. It's not the cure either, the guys been growing for 20+ years and knows how to grow. First going organic I didn't notice a big difference in taste or quality when smoking, now it's usually pretty apparent when I try someone else's weed though. I would probably switch to organic living soil beds if I could control the amounts of stuff in the beds better, but it is hard to have a variety of plants together including breeding stuff all in organic beds so to me organic based bottles is the next best thing.

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Dividedsky said:

Ya i use Canna terra line, pretty much just their vega and flora base nutes and cannazyme and rhizotonic and get great results-I don't really use their boost and have never used their PK 13/14, think less is more with salt nutes. I agree full organics-living soil can definitely bring out better terps once dialed in but I've not noticed a lot of difference between my and a friends full organic grown bud

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LeftOurEyes said:

This is Gromer's Nectar for the Gods recipe. I use nectar but not this recipe/amounts, though this is pretty close to the recommended amounts the company says to use for the strongest concentration. Gromer just uses it full strength all the time instead of lighter during veg which is a little weird or wasteful probably. What I use is pretty close with a few other things added and a couple dry amendments and get great results.



Other brands are probably cheaper and certainly easier to use. Athena is DEFINITELY not better for quality though, I personally think no synthetics brands are either. I have a buddy who swears by Athena and his flowers have no terps compared to mine and a few of my buddies said it gives them headaches. It's not the cure either, the guys been growing for 20+ years and knows how to grow. First going organic I didn't notice a big difference in taste or quality when smoking, now it's usually pretty apparent when I try someone else's weed though. I would probably switch to organic living soil beds if I could control the amounts of stuff in the beds better, but it is hard to have a variety of plants together including breeding stuff all in organic beds so to me organic based bottles is the next best thing.

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LeftOurEyes said:

Yeah I am definitely an organic guy but I am not anti-salt. I get that salts are easier and more consistent for most people, and much easier to dial in for large facilities. I do however think that if cannabis is your passion than you should put in the effort for organics and will enjoy it more once you do (and for your health too). Organics does take a little time to learn or dial in so I get that a lot of people that switch may not even see an improvement either until they get it down which may turn off a lot of people just dabbling in it. Organics done bad isn't going to be better than synthetics done good.

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Dividedsky said:

what I'm getting at is if you're running coco or promix hp which is bascially inert and hydro it would be easier and better to run salt nutes thats run nectar of the gods...if you're thinking of running a bunch of nectar of the gods bottles in either promix or coco why not just do full no till organic beds and only have feed tea & add bennies here and there, gnome sayin'

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Dividedsky said:

I'm running the 720w grower choice leds-things are beasts

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LeftOurEyes said:

I dont see how salt nutes are better in those per se, they are always easier though. I mean it's all personal preference but there are definitely reasons for some. I use less nitrogen in the end of flower, it helps with the colors coming out along with lower temps. With living beds its hard to control the amounts if you have organic compounds that are slowly being absorbed through out the grow. To me it's just about being about to control the levels better and it may be a dumb reason but I can get my flowers much more colorful than friends that use organic beds and amend them over time.

Also I like nectar because of the consistency. People I know with beds have a varying quality to their flower because as they drain and reamend the beds they change each batch a little. I like nectar because I get the consistency and convenience of salt but with organics instead. It also helps when you have plants that feed at different rates. In organic beds some will thrive while others could struggle. Not much you can do with that.



I've heard good things about growers choice too and will probably try one eventually. I've been running the Luxx 645 for a few years and like them.

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Dividedsky said:

Gotta add Nectar of the god can't be considered full organics because they used mineral based calcium sources, as well as carbon based.

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