Tiki Madman

Pretty scumbag to send out packs as testers that you just sold for hundreds. Glad I passed on this guy when I first heard about him. Seems like there's so many breeders chucking all the hype stuff. There's so much good genetics out there that aren't a grand a cut or even a hundred a pack. Unfortunately most people are suckers for trends and why it perpetuates itself.

What I can't comprehend is why the hype? It's not like they're winning cups with these cuts, so what's the hype about? Cheerleaders on IG? perceived exclusivity?

It's like a race of who can breed the new hype to the old hype and get it out quicker than the next guy/gal. Look at all the "breeders" that dropped runtz crosses recently. Lame af. No originality.

Mr.Estrain said:

Pretty scumbag to send out packs as testers that you just sold for hundreds. Glad I passed on this guy when I first heard about him. Seems like there's so many breeders chucking all the hype stuff. There's so much good genetics out there that aren't a grand a cut or even a hundred a pack. Unfortunately most people are suckers for trends and why it perpetuates itself.

What I can't comprehend is why the hype? It's not like they're winning cups with these cuts, so what's the hype about? Cheerleaders on IG? perceived exclusivity?

It's like a race of who can breed the new hype to the old hype and get it out quicker than the next guy/gal. Look at all the "breeders" that dropped runtz crosses recently. Lame af. No originality.

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i Completely understand you, that’s how I feel, but at the same time I’m having trouble finding legitimate seed banks. I’ve worked with attitude Swedbank no success

Muzzle2 said:

i Completely understand you, that’s how I feel, but at the same time I’m having trouble finding legitimate seed banks. I’ve worked with attitude Swedbank no success

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Where are you located? Country wise. I've never heard of someone having issues with attitude, I haven't used them in like ten years but they always came through.

I can recommend a couple seed banks, great Lake genetics has great breeders with packs for less than a hundred, with plenty of deals to be had too. Glo seed bank has good prices but isn't as refined to deal with as GLG. There's a few others I've used as well with no issue. Glo also has weekly promotions sent out through email, with really really good deals sometimes.

If you're in Australia you could have a tough time with any bank tbh. That new technology they've implemented is scary.

You guys complaining about a free pack of testers in a box set? See what I just did? One guy who doesn’t know any better said they were sold for hundreds of the box price. I’m another guy who doesn’t know any better and I said they were free. The thread has already went to labeling the breeder a scumbag, yet no one knows what they are tasking about.

eastcoastled said:

You guys complaining about a free pack of testers in a box set? See what I just did? One guy who doesn’t know any better said they were sold for hundreds of the box price. I’m another guy who doesn’t know any better and I said they were free. The thread has already went to labeling the breeder a scumbag, yet no one knows what they are tasking about.

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If they weren't advertised as testers and people paid as the guy said, than yeah scumbag. If dudes throwing shade and they were actually freebies, and advertised as that, that's on him.

Tbh though, even if they were advertised as freebies he used them as incentive to promote his product, then turned around and gave them out. If that's true according to this guy lol. That's not very honourable.

I dunno personally I think people are getting mad about nothing, it just all depends on how you look at it. He could of given away some packs that didn't sell out because when you get testers you're supposed to post pics on IG which gives Tiki some advertising. He might not have sent that specific strain out so much as a tester as much as just to get pics of it online for advertising instead of just sitting on them.

Just funny to me that no one knows his intentions but yet you are sure now he is not honorable for giving out some free seeds lol. I mean if he is selling untested seeds then giving them away after that does kinda suck, but if he just had extras and wanted to get some pics online then not so much. People are just quick to judge without really knowing the story.

The hype chasing is real though, when lbs move quicker cause of a name. In legal states if you want to move product in state, name matters. I’ve been growing a long ass time now and I know it’s bull shit. But it is what it is, the market wants what it wants. Makes growing a bit more complicated but it keeps me on my toes and involved.

The right side of the room is almost all tiki cuts, left side is almost all modified mints. Plants did not stretch near as much as I had hoped, the only thing I can think of is I fed too much silica too early. So I removed the second layer of trellis and set the lights at about 30-32 inches from the tops. These are on day 25, not running c02 in this room yet cause I am air cooling atm.

Looks good.
what are your thoughts on the tiki cuts?

Angus Hung said:

Looks good.
what are your thoughts on the tiki cuts?

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I won’t know til I smoke em, all I can say so far is they came healthy. Some have a nice stem rub, but nothing really matters to me besides how they smoke and then how they yield. I’ve thrown out a lot of really nice smelling or flavorful plants cause they don’t hit hard enough in the high department.

Apalchen said:

The hype chasing is real though, when lbs move quicker cause of a name. In legal states if you want to move product in state, name matters. I’ve been growing a long ass time now and I know it’s bull shit. But it is what it is, the market wants what it wants. Makes growing a bit more complicated but it keeps me on my toes and involved.

The right side of the room is almost all tiki cuts, left side is almost all modified mints. Plants did not stretch near as much as I had hoped, the only thing I can think of is I fed too much silica too early. So I removed the second layer of trellis and set the lights at about 30-32 inches from the tops. These are on day 25, not running c02 in this room yet cause I am air cooling atm.

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Hey bud have you noticed certain strains don't like silca as much as others or have weird reactions to it. I keep my silca feeding to 2.5 to 3.5 MLS per a gal now and it seems to be key. I feel like you should never go above 5 MLS per a gal. I do love silca though, it toughens up the plants and makes them sturdy and able to handle heat stress especially well( you know for those times when your a/c doesn't kick on in your sealed room because of a power outage, lol) To much and it's turns fans leaves brittle though. My go- to is dynagro protekt, best silca on the market.

Dividedsky said:

Hey bud have you noticed certain strains don't like silca as much as others or have weird reactions to it. I keep my silca feeding to 2.5 to 3.5 MLS per a gal now and it seems to be key. I feel like you should never go above 5 MLS per a gal. I do love silca though, it toughens up the plants and makes them sturdy and able to handle heat stress especially well( you know for those times when your a/c doesn't kick on in your sealed room because of a power outage, lol) To much and it's turns fans leaves brittle though. My go- to is dynagro protekt, best silca on the market.

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I honestly haven’t used it that much, I have been using rhino skin from AN because it doesn’t mess with my PH. I did grab some power si to try but haven’t gotten around to messing with it yet. I have had the same liter bottle of rhino skin for a year now, I used more this run hoping the tougher skin would help keep pm at bay, didn’t think about stunting my stretch. Lesson learned.
I can say these plants all seem very healthy and i have like 15 strains in here.

Apalchen said:

I honestly haven’t used it that much, I have been using rhino skin from AN because it doesn’t mess with my PH. I did grab some power si to try but haven’t gotten around to messing with it yet. I have had the same liter bottle of rhino skin for a year now, I used more this run hoping the tougher skin would help keep pm at bay, didn’t think about stunting my stretch. Lesson learned.
I can say these plants all seem very healthy and i have like 15 strains in here.

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Ya protekt is great even as a ph up. I use r/o water, don't use it every watering like once a week if that. Always have to put in the water before anything else though.

Little nugg of Tiki Rain

Dividedsky said:

Hey bud have you noticed certain strains don't like silca as much as others or have weird reactions to it. I keep my silca feeding to 2.5 to 3.5 MLS per a gal now and it seems to be key. I feel like you should never go above 5 MLS per a gal. I do love silca though, it toughens up the plants and makes them sturdy and able to handle heat stress especially well( you know for those times when your a/c doesn't kick on in your sealed room because of a power outage, lol) To much and it's turns fans leaves brittle though. My go- to is dynagro protekt, best silca on the market.

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Ive noticed that too much silica makes cookies crosses fan leaves get that brittle feel and chem crosses leaves have like a rubbery feel

I messed up once not knowing that Megacrop already has silica in it and i was adding more

Also noticed the nugs were too hard for my liking

I never tried Protekt before so I don’t know the concentration but for something like Powersi you’d never need more than 1ml per gal unless you were trying to purposely keep your plants shorter then you’d need 2ml for the first couple weeks of flower

Silica is a must for any tent/led grower

I used to have alot problems with heat stress and plants growing into the lights before I started using it

Zipz55 said:

Ive noticed that too much silica makes cookies crosses fan leaves get that brittle feel and chem crosses leaves have like a rubbery feel

I messed up once not knowing that Megacrop already has silica in it and i was adding more

Also noticed the nugs were too hard for my liking

I never tried Protekt before so I don’t know the concentration but for something like Powersi you’d never need more than 1ml per gal unless you were trying to purposely keep your plants shorter then you’d need 2ml for the first couple weeks of flower

Silica is a must for any tent/led grower

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For sure

So i’ve been meaning to get some gear from Tiki for a while now. Missed out on a lot of boxes/packs i was extremely interested in, and finally snagged 2 packs of his Lemon Cherry Rain(LCG x CR). The Candy Rain in it’s genetics, and the whole debacle with that drop made me very skeptical of any hybrids of it. Seeing how good @BigSco508 ’s Tiki Rain looks(awesome work by the way man), and a whole bunch of other keepers people found from Tiki’s CR crosses definitely put my mind at ease.

Got an extremely good batch of Lemon Cherry Gelato flower a couple months back, and i must say it was the best Gelato cut(at least from the tiny amount of info i found the consensus said it was a cut, but please correct me if i’m wrong) i’ve tried. So got really high hopes for this cross.

Tiki has definitely been pumping out a lot of crosses using some of the most “hyped” cuts, so if it was at least three or four years ago i most likely wouldn’t have ordered them, and personally i’m glad there’s breeders out there like Tiki pumping out a lot of good genetics. Can see why some people may take issue with it, but the amount of breeders going passed F2 in their lines are extremely limited, and in my opinion if it wasn’t for breeders like Tiki we wouldn’t have such a vest selection of good genetics at very reasonable prices.

Nate Dogg said:

So i’ve been meaning to get some gear from Tiki for a while now. Missed out on a lot of boxes/packs i was extremely interested in, and finally snagged 2 packs of his Lemon Cherry Rain(LCG x CR). The Candy Rain in it’s genetics, and the whole debacle with that drop made me very skeptical of any hybrids of it. Seeing how good @BigSco508 ’s Tiki Rain looks(awesome work by the way man), and a whole bunch of other keepers people found from Tiki’s CR crosses definitely put my mind at ease.

Got an extremely good batch of Lemon Cherry Gelato flower a couple months back, and i must say it was the best Gelato cut(at least from the tiny amount of info i found the consensus said it was a cut, but please correct me if i’m wrong) i’ve tried. So got really high hopes for this cross.

Tiki has definitely been pumping out a lot of crosses using some of the most “hyped” cuts, so if it was at least three or four years ago i most likely wouldn’t have ordered them, and personally i’m glad there’s breeders out there like Tiki pumping out a lot of good genetics. Can see why some people may take issue with it, but the amount of breeders going passed F2 in their lines are extremely limited, and in my opinion if it wasn’t for breeders like Tiki we wouldn’t have such a vest selection of good genetics at very reasonable prices.

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I have Pirate Milk day 21 tomorrow (Cereal Milk bagseed x Candy Rain)

I killed 1 so far, do to it herming out. I have like 9 or 10 left. I ain’t even mad though considering it’s genetics, I’m just saying the Candy Rain cross isn’t so bad so far imo.

Also they’re all short or a lil below medium height, slow veg, maybe a 2x stretch on the biggest one

Here’s a day 14 pic from last Friday, they haven’t gotten much taller, you can see all the taller plants, that’s a different strain.

Railage said:

I have Pirate Milk day 21 tomorrow (Cereal Milk bagseed x Candy Rain)

I killed 1 so far, do to it herming out. I have like 9 or 10 left. I ain’t even mad though considering it’s genetics, I’m just saying the Candy Rain cross isn’t so bad so far imo.

Also they’re all short or a lil below medium height, slow veg, maybe a 2x stretch on the biggest one

Here’s a day 14 pic from last Friday, they haven’t gotten much taller, you can see all the taller plants, that’s a different strain.

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Damn, sorry to hear that man. Was it only on the lowers, or tops too? Personally if it’s only on a couple of the lowers, it’s not looking like a straight male, it’s only throwing a couple balls that are easy to pluck, and has potential to be a keeper i try to take cuts. i’d say about 60-70% of the time they’ll never give me issues again, but some can be a complete waste of energy/time/money/space, and can see why most people just chuck it. Since CR and hybrids of it can throw out herms, i went with 2 packs. Even though i really should’ve only bought 1, 2 should give me somewhat of a decent amount to hunt through, and hopefully can find one that has close to the same terps LCG does. Appreciate the info though fr, definitely will keep an eye out for any that veg slower than average, and will flip to 12/12 accordingly.

Tiki style of advertising on IG is gonna get him some lawsuits...Pirate face on every movie poster from 1979+

Honestly wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of breeders start getting hit with lawsuits. That’s basically free money in these companies pockets. Most of these companies know if they paid to get trademarked, and someone makes money off of that it’s an easy win. if the person getting sued takes it to trial, then loses that’s an even bigger “win” for the company, because the judge will usually hit someone with the highest estimated value(same with criminal 9/10 times they’ll hit someone with the max). Pretty stupid how judges get pissed off for actually having to do their job, instead of just chilling while lawyers try to make an agreement.