To trim or not to trim? BUBBA

hectorius

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here is another one for you humidity 65 not 40 not possible right? lol temp 25 ppm 800 to 1200 co2 matchng the pm of food and use advanced or gh or house and garden look at ur pics all the bottoms are all fluffy nt chunked all that can be tight nugs man so much room for improvement.
 

homebrewer

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ur doing a pound per 600 in 11 weeks of bloom plus few in veg bwahahahhaha are u fucking serious? that sux man seriously that suxz you can pull 1200 grams in that time with a 600justover 2 elbows.
You literally have no idea what you're talking about. Or you can back up your words with pics like any other respectable grower on here.
 

OZUT

Active Member
Got a feeling this is about to get interesting :)

As for the original post, I agree that you should cut back on the nutes...As for the fan leaves, I pluck the bigger fan leaves but don't do more than 10% - 15%....Also, I don't touch the leaves after week 4 or 5 of bloom.
 

Uncle Ben

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Don't cut any leaves tuck them out of the way if you can. Cutting of leaves is not a good practice any more than cutting the arms of an Olympic runner because it will make him faster. Lots of people do it and as you will see from this forum there are lots of interesting ideas. But many are not the best for your plants. Ever see farmers or gardeners out trimming leaves in the fields??

Peace

Homebrewer is on to something here with your plants not performing as well as they could. I added some comments if your interested.

QUESTION

When did you take the pics, just after the lights came on? or have they been on for more than a couple hours. I ask as the leaves are cupping down, not good and they look a bit limp.(like at night)


Solving Marijuana Plan Leaf Curl/Cupping Problems


A misdiagnosis only serves to make matters worse by promoting further decline.
The ultimate and correct solution is in the hands of the marijuana grower.
Here are some common problems when marijuana leaves are curling.

  1. Too much marijuana fertilizer
    The most common cause of marijuana leaf cupping aka leaf margin rolling, leaf margin burn, and leaf tip curl/burn is overzealous use of marijuana plant food. In relationship to factors such as marijuana plant vigor and rate of growth. Leaf burn is often the very first sign of too much marijuana fertilizer.
    A hard, crispy feel to the marijuana leaf frequently occurs as well, as opposed to a soft and cool feel of a happy pot leaf. Back off on the amount and/or frequency of using marijuana fertilizer. Too much marijuana fertilizer can also burn the roots, especially the sensitive root tips, which then creates another set of problems. Note - as soil dries, the concentration of the remaining salts rises further exacerbating the problem.
  2. High Heat
    The marijuana plant is losing water via it’s leaves faster than what can be replaced by the root system. The marijuana leaf responds by leaf margin cupping or rolling up or down (most times up) in order to conserve moisture. A good example is reflected by the appearance of broad-bladed turf grass on a hot summer day, high noon, with low soil moisture levels - the leaf blade will roll upward/inward with the grass taking on a dull, grayish-green appearance. Upon sunrise when moisture levels have returned to normal, the leaf blade will be flat. Lower the heat in the marijuana grow-op and concentrate on developing a large robust root system. An efficient and effective root system will go a long way to prevent heat induced pot leaf desiccation or marijuana leaf margin curling. One short episode of high heat is enough to permanently disable or destroy leaf tissue and cause a general decline in the leaves affected, which often occurs to leaves found at the top of the cannabis plant. The damaged pot leaf (usually) does not fully recover, no matter what you do. Bummer in the summer. One can only look to new growth for indications that the problem has been corrected.
  3. Too much light
    Yes, it’s true, you can give your marijuana plant too much light. Cannabis does not receive full sun from sunrise to sunset in its natural state. It is shaded or given reduced light levels because of adjacent plant material, cloudy conditions, rain, dust, twilight periods in the morning and late afternoon, and light intensity changes caused by a change in the seasons. Too much light mainly serves to bleach out and destroy chlorophyll as opposed to causing marijuana leaf cupping, but it often goes hand-in-hand with high heat for indoor marijuana growers. Turn down the time when the lights on in your marijuana grow room. If you're using a 24 hr cycle, turn it down to 20 hrs. Those on 18 - 6 marijuana growth cycle can turn their lights down two or three hours. Too much light can have many adverse effects on marijuana plants. Concentrate on developing/maintaining an efficient and robust root system.
  4. Over Watering
    For marijuana growers using soil, this practice only serves to weaken the root system by depriving the roots of proper gas exchange. The marijuana plants roots are not getting enough oxygen which creates an anaerobic condition inducing root rot and root decline with the end result showing up as leaf stress, stunted growth, and in severe cases, death. Over watering creates a perfect environment for damp-off disease, at, or below the soil line. Many times marijuana growers believe their cannabis plant is not getting enough marijuana fertilizers (which it can't under such adverse conditions), so they add more marijuana fertilizers. Making the problem worst. Not better. Often problem 1 and 4 go together. Too much marijuana fertilizer combined with too much water. Creating plenty of marijuana plant problems.
  5. Not Enough Water
    Not only is the marijuana plant now stressed due to a low supply of adequate moisture, but carbohydrate production has been greatly compromised (screwed up). Step up the watering frequency, and if need be, organic marijuana growers may need to water from the bottom up until moisture levels reach a norm throughout the medium. One of the best methods in determining whether a marijuana plant requires watering is lifting the pots. The pots should be light to lift before a water session. After watering the marijuana plants lift the pots to get an understanding how heavy they've become fully watered. If the pot feels light to the lift - it’s time to water. Don’t wait until the soil pulls away from the side of the pot before watering. And of course, leach, once in a while to get rid of excess salts. These are the five most common problems marijuana growers encounter when growing cannabis. Correcting the problems early will save the marijuana plants, but may reduce overall yield. With practice and experience these problems are easily overcome which will then enable the marijuana grower to produce fantastic marijuana plants. With heavy yields.
Just curious, where did you get that little ditty?
 

biggun

Active Member
1. When did you take the pics, just after the lights came on? or have they been on for more than a couple hours. I ask as the leaves are cupping down, not good and they look a bit limp.(like at night)?
A. They had just come on..

2.Just curious, where did you get that little ditty?
A. Dr. Greenthumb
Thanks for the advice... I really do appreciate it... You have beaten me up for me trying advanced nutrients, Thanks fro not holding a grudge..LOL
 

woodsmaneh!

Well-Known Member
The old saying a pic is worth a 1000 words is so true. Next time you take pics do it a couple of hours after the lights come on and it will be easier to say what's wrong.

I do a lot or research and keep the good stuff, I usually attach credits where due but some times late at night in a cloud of smoke, what was I saying.....

Peace
 

Uncle Ben

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I usually attach credits where due but some times late at night in a cloud of smoke, what was I saying.....

Peace
Based on the integrity (or lack thereof) of some cannabis growers who are quick to steal someone's else's work and try and pass it off as their own, I'm a little touchy when I see someone plagarize my work. What you posted is a bastardized version of something I wrote years ago. Did this guy "Dr. Greenthumb" post my ditty?

Tio

Edit - just checked him out, hah! This looks to be the same guy that I used to go toe to toe with regarding botany back an old site called cannabis.com run by Ron. I used to mod the site. http://www.drgreenthumb.com/cannabis_seeds_GreenthumbSeedsEntrance.htm
 

homebrewer

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Based on the integrity (or lack thereof) of some cannabis growers who are quick to steal someone's else's work and try and pass it off as their own, I'm a little touchy when I see someone plagarize my work. What you posted is a bastardized version of something I wrote years ago. Did this guy "Dr. Greenthumb" post my ditty?

Tio

Edit - just checked him out, hah! This looks to be the same guy that I used to go toe to toe with regarding botany back an old site called cannabis.com run by Ron. I used to mod the site. http://www.drgreenthumb.com/cannabis_seeds_GreenthumbSeedsEntrance.htm
http://www.1stmarijuanagrowerspage.com/marijuana-leaf-curling-problem-solver.html
 

biggun

Active Member
When you said little ditty I thought you were asking where the Bubba plant came from, Not the article.. Dr.greenthumb is where I purchased the seeds for the plant... So take it Easy killer. I do not think anyone was plagiarizing your hard work.. Peace

Based on the integrity (or lack thereof) of some cannabis growers who are quick to steal someone's else's work and try and pass it off as their own, I'm a little touchy when I see someone plagarize my work. What you posted is a bastardized version of something I wrote years ago. Did this guy "Dr. Greenthumb" post my ditty?

Tio

Edit - just checked him out, hah! This looks to be the same guy that I used to go toe to toe with regarding botany back an old site called cannabis.com run by Ron. I used to mod the site. http://www.drgreenthumb.com/cannabis_seeds_GreenthumbSeedsEntrance.htm
 
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