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Dawgfunk

Dawgfunk

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Tangerine_ said:
I have some Guava Ds way back in this thread. 2 different seed hunts several months apart.
Some threw a couple sterile late nanners.
Chems need a strong but gentle finish...if that makes sense.
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Greybush7387 said:
Can anyone give me some info on chem d i figured u guys would know. Im growin a cross of chem d and tossed 1 because it had 4 to 5 open sacs dropping pollen and my other 4 have only showed 1 on each. My ? Is are chem d crosses normally like this? And would doing a clone run be worth it? Any real helpful info would be appreciated. Please only people who have grown this out.
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28CED186-29BB-4A5A-A89B-1FC2577078D1.jpegShe’s nasty in all the best ways. Was grateful to get a cut of her to throw in the dep this year and she’s smelling strong like body odor and funky nasty sweet chem. Definitely a line known to herm, I think I found maybe one or 2 nanners. It got hot for a few days around week 5 or 6. I picked em out and ate em when I saw em but definitely a wonderful cultivar! floppy and spear tops, lots of heads and probably would have loved a trellis but I went frank zappa and just wrapped some dental floss around it and called it a day. she’s strong for being as floppy as she is though. I think this is a pic at day 60, maybe 59. Day 63 now and I tell her just keep truckin on!! My buddy said when she’s all you can smell, over everything else, she’s ready. she’s definitely getting there.much love and respect to the chem fam, you guys rock for keepin this around.59A458C5-CD14-41E5-8B85-8D52D6D3870D.jpeg
 
Senokai

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crisnpropa said:
When is that Piff dropping?
Know what I'm talking about?
That Uptown Brown.
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Its not worth the $200. Nothing against Top Dawg but as a product it was garbage. Nothing about the Piff of old was dominant. To be fair the piff smell lingered in the air with the smoke but no epic flavor to be found. I cant speak for any other strains that the piff was crossed with but uptown was a HUGE let down imo.
 
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crisnpropa

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Senokai said:
Its not worth the $200. Nothing against Top Dawg but as a product it was garbage. Nothing about the Piff of old was dominant. To be fair the piff smell lingered in the air with the smoke but no epic flavor to be found. I cant speak for any other strains that the piff was crossed with but uptown was a HUGE let down imo.
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Okay, fair assessment. Appreciate your opinion.

But I really desire that 2000's Piff. I messaged JJ a few months ago and he replied that seeds would be available upcoming soon.
 
BigSco508

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crisnpropa said:
Okay, fair assessment. Appreciate your opinion.

But I really desire that 2000's Piff. I messaged JJ a few months ago and he replied that seeds would be available upcoming soon.
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Are you sure JJ wasn't talking about a Cross ik he has a few of them he just dropped a few months back ?
 
Senokai

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Tangerine_ said:
Seems the reviews for the Uptown Brown are little mixed?
Not really surprised as this has been my experience with most of Top Dawg too.
You really have to hunt full packs but when you do find that one keeper, its usually top notch potency.
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I totally agree on the hunting aspect. I guess where my stance comes into play is that for $200 that kind of hunting is just not economical for a pack of seeds that doesnt deliver the Piff of legend lol. Which it really should for $200 a pack. I have doubts as to if Uptown was even tested before release. I dont think the Piff breeds well. I even had an Uptown Brown male used in a chuck with SSH. It was a weak breeder as nothing of the uptown came out to play from 5 females of that cross. Kind of unrelated to the Uptown packs but just a data point.
 
SFnone

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I never had that true piff, but i'm beginning to think that maybe it wasn't Cuban Black Haze after all... some guy gave me some buds a while back that were from some sort of an Indian landrace or heirloom sativa that was yellowy brownish in color and had a very incense-y kind of thing... it makes me think that maybe people are looking in the wrong places... another guy told me straight up that it wasn't Cuban black haze, but was chemed out ssh, and I've heard from another person that it was actually skunk x trainwreck... I got no clue... I thought uptown's high was definitely good though, but also definitely not worth the insane demand for it... one female had a fast hitting head rush that was really great, but the high faded too quickly. A different female was weaker by a lot, so the hunting thing is probably the way to go... make seeds and go crazy the way I see it... the yields weren't great and the buds were small, but sativas are usually kind of like that, so that didn't really bother me... but even that might be a hit or miss type of thing, as THT's bx looked much, much thicker than the ones I grew... mine looked like a stereotypical super sativa landrace, only instead of being tall and like a beanpole, they were short and squatty and seemed to grow sideways instead of vertically... it was bizarre... I used three males in crosses, and have one of those crosses growing right now, and the uptown smell is absolutely there... not very dominantly, but about 50/50- 60/40... I actually wanted that one to keep the traits of the mother used, but the brown definitely comes through in smell at least. JJ used to have an almost attitude that I really appreciated, where if he thought it sucked, he'd say so and would not market it... anymore he seems to be falling into the business aspect of it all... I know he's been trying to get that old school thai right now, so maybe that is where his head is for the moment... of course it could also be that people have just made piff into something that it never really was... a sort of inflated memory maybe...
 
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SFnone said:
I never had that true piff, but i'm beginning to think that maybe it wasn't Cuban Black Haze after all... some guy gave me some buds a while back that were from some sort of an Indian landrace or heirloom sativa that was yellowy brownish in color and had a very incense-y kind of thing... it makes me think that maybe people are looking in the wrong places... another guy told me straight up that it wasn't Cuban black haze, but was chemed out ssh, and I've heard from another person that it was actually skunk x trainwreck... I got no clue... I thought uptown's high was definitely good though, but also definitely not worth the insane demand for it... one female had a fast hitting head rush that was really great, but the high faded too quickly. A different female was weaker by a lot, so the hunting thing is probably the way to go... make seeds and go crazy the way I see it... the yields weren't great and the buds were small, but sativas are usually kind of like that, so that didn't really bother me... but even that might be a hit or miss type of thing, as THT's bx looked much, much thicker than the ones I grew... mine looked like a stereotypical super sativa landrace, only instead of being tall and like a beanpole, they were short and squatty and seemed to grow sideways instead of vertically... it was bizarre... I used three males in crosses, and have one of those crosses growing right now, and the uptown smell is absolutely there... not very dominantly, but about 50/50- 60/40... I actually wanted that one to keep the traits of the mother used, but the brown definitely comes through in smell at least. JJ used to have an almost attitude that I really appreciated, where if he thought it sucked, he'd say so and would not market it... anymore he seems to be falling into the business aspect of it all... I know he's been trying to get that old school thai right now, so maybe that is where his head is for the moment... of course it could also be that people have just made piff into something that it never really was... a sort of inflated memory maybe...
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I can't deny that UTB's effect was good. I do feel confident that Top Dawg correctly sourced the NYC Piff. NYC Piff had such a unique smell/taste that its unmistakable. What faint traces I could detect in UTB that came from NYC Piff was there. But only a shadow of the former glory lol. I grew up in the Northeast and it was def around and I paid up the ass for it when it was available.
 
JustBlazin

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shorelineOG said:
He doesn't even germ test. I bought a pack directly from him and only two popped out of ten seeds. I didn't complain but other people have had the same issue and he gets an attitude. I get near 100% germ rate with every other breeder. I didn't ask for a replacement but I won't waste my money because a germ test and guarantee should be standard especially at his prices. Then blaming customers for his mistake.
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I had good germ rates with his gear i think i popped a pack and a half ended up with like 10 females or so cant remeber was last year...none stuck around past 2 grows
 
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Omkarananda

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Hello hope you’re good! I popped a few Co super skunks with good germ rats and now have definitely one female so far. Just sharing my experience. Not trying to sell the seeds or whatever. It’s the only pack from this breeder I have. I’ll try to post about the end results down the road. :peace::weed:
 
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