tryingtogrow89
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Whats wrong with that? its america man!
I promote guns in america all day every day.
trayvan martin
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I promote guns in america all day every day.
budleydoright
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We already have the right to bear arms and protect yourself. That is American and I certainly don;t disagree with it. But here you have an industry that builds items that last virtually forever. In order to find new markets for their products Gun mfgr seem to be promoting ownership of guns through various means. The SYG law being one of them. I don;t think gun ownership needs to be promoted.
So no I'm not anti gun but I don;t believe the people at the NRA represent the gun owners that I know any longer.
So no I'm not anti gun but I don;t believe the people at the NRA represent the gun owners that I know any longer.
MyndMy
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There is no problem with the SYG law its problems with ppl trying to abuse it. I again reiterate how is following a guy home after the 911 dispatcher tells you to please not. It stopped being self defense and started being vigilante justice. Not to call racial profiling but he fit what he thought was the description of the robber in the area. And instead of leaving to the police department to do their job, he wanted to play cops and robbers. Problem is he is not the police and had not received any training on how to deal with the situation. If he was a security officer with a commission to carry firearms he would have been trained on proper procedure. But being a regular citizen he did not know them as ignorance of the law is not a justification of breaking the law SYG says you do not have to flee, but not fleeing and following him home are two different things.
UncleBuck
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his mind was very not right. could have to do with the pills he was popping. they are known to have side effects.
the most key piece of evidence that his mind was not right was that he was straddling martin after he shot him. you just put a bullet in the kid's chest, do you think he's still such a threat that you need to straddle him? he was on threat detection overload, he was just not thinking right.
and you know e was never going back to his truck. the dispatch asks him if he wants to meet the cops at where he described his truck to be. he says no, just have them call me when they get here, here's my number. he was NOT going back to his truck, he was going to chase the kid. that's why he told the cops to call him for location.
just a horrible incident that was more than just ultimately avoidable by zimmerman.
budleydoright
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Z. was taking Adderall which shows up as an amphetamine (same as meth) on a probation drug test. I used to have to bring my bottle in everytime i had to drop a jar. Long term use of amphetamines has been know to cause extreme paranoia since the 60's. One of the reasons I can't take it for ADD.
The passage of SYG was designed to open up a whole new demographic to sell guns to IMHO.
The passage of SYG was designed to open up a whole new demographic to sell guns to IMHO.
Canna Sylvan
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Wrong buddy. Spitting in someone's face is assault and under SYG, I have the right to blow your face off. Sorry. Fail. Not saying I'd blow your face off personally, that's not my way, but I'd be justified to do so.
Try doing that to a cop and see how fast he Rodney King's your ass.
Seriously, where do you come up with these senarios? I smoke nearly pure sativas and pure ones too. I never think of things like you do.
"The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over"
You were commanded once already to not post this drivel.
Still stuck on this false point I see.
budleydoright
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They call it "Make My Day" law in Colorado. Who the fuck comes up with shit like this?
UncleBuck
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hey old man, didn't you hear that they are releasing the evidence as part of the process of discovery?
Red1966
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Yet, you seem to be unaware of the evidence.hey old man, didn't you hear that they are releasing the evidence as part of the process of discovery?
UncleBuck
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point it out to me. your baseless assertion is as useful as a bump on my nutsack.
UncleBuck
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ok, so you assert that i'm not arguing based on the evidence that's now been released, yet you fail to back up your assertion in any way whatsoever.
you're so awesome, i just got sooooooooo owned.
1Shot1Kill
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budleydoright
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While we don't have all of the evidence there are facts that have been established.
Martin is dead.
Zimmerman Shot him and has been charged.
Really the dispute is Who was standing their ground.
The way it appears to me is Martin was standing his ground against an unknown pursuer and was shot as a result. Of course this is my opinion based on what's out there.
You know one thing I think people are forgetting, Trayvon Martin was completely innocent, he was minding his own buisiness, probably trying to line up some trim on the phone. Zimmerman had absolutely no right to pursue him. He was not acting on behalf of the neighborhood association. Martin had no obligation to explain himself to Zimmerman, or did Zimmerman have the right to follow him, question him or attempt to detain him. Of course this would be true even if he was in the commision of a crime.
Perhaps his pistol made him feel invinsable and he was thinking "C'mon punk, Make My Day." Oh wait that's the Colorado law!
Martin is dead.
Zimmerman Shot him and has been charged.
Really the dispute is Who was standing their ground.
The way it appears to me is Martin was standing his ground against an unknown pursuer and was shot as a result. Of course this is my opinion based on what's out there.
You know one thing I think people are forgetting, Trayvon Martin was completely innocent, he was minding his own buisiness, probably trying to line up some trim on the phone. Zimmerman had absolutely no right to pursue him. He was not acting on behalf of the neighborhood association. Martin had no obligation to explain himself to Zimmerman, or did Zimmerman have the right to follow him, question him or attempt to detain him. Of course this would be true even if he was in the commision of a crime.
Perhaps his pistol made him feel invinsable and he was thinking "C'mon punk, Make My Day." Oh wait that's the Colorado law!