VTXDave
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And if my son gets deployed to Afghanistan, I will have you to thank for that. But I'm sure you secretly wish he dies.
Troop Strength to Increase in Afghanistan Next Year...
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Stoney McFried
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At the risk of sounding like a "hippy"....War is Over If you Want it.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8jw-ifqwkM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8jw-ifqwkM
misshestermoffitt
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Can we at least wait for Obama to take office and then maybe give him a month or 2 to see what he's going to do before we start crying and candy-assing around?
Fighting the taliban is like fighting weed, it just keeps moving around and we're never going to nail them down.
Anyone recall how they started? Anyone remember back in the 80's when Russia invaded Afghanistan? Anyone remember the US supplying them with arms and helping them out? Now they want to kill us. See we should have just let the Russians run them over, but no, we're the world police, we took away their enemy and they got bored and decided to go after, who again, oh yeah America.
Fighting the taliban is like fighting weed, it just keeps moving around and we're never going to nail them down.
Anyone recall how they started? Anyone remember back in the 80's when Russia invaded Afghanistan? Anyone remember the US supplying them with arms and helping them out? Now they want to kill us. See we should have just let the Russians run them over, but no, we're the world police, we took away their enemy and they got bored and decided to go after, who again, oh yeah America.
Twistyman
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I've no problem with empire building, or protecting them, but when others who try to protect their empires only to have troops inserted in their midst who disrespect their cultures, women..etc
Would the US like a huge Chinese military force in lets say Iowa because of wheat interests.. No.. I know thats a simplistic comparison but the sentiment is there..
Plus as for allies.. to be insulted then lauded by the same guy (gates) in a 1 year period does not make allies want to help.. the more Bushies smiled at the allies the more they were insulted, under breath.. If (god forbid) the US was attacked I'd bet the only help they'd get would be from us.. and only because of the attached at the hip thing..... and where the fuck are the Israel army to help..considering they're the ones getting almost all the major protection.. Before US stuck their nose in it was an Israeli problem, so where are they now... attacking/walling off /threatening Palestine/Syria.. stirring the pot...
misshestermoffitt
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It's because somehow we're the world police. I don't know how it happened and I'm sick of it. We wreck another country and then those of us who didn't agree still have to fund rebuilding with our tax dollars. It doesn't matter that people here are losing their homes right and left and there are homeless children in the streets. If our leaders keep concentrating on things half a world away it's easier for them to turn a blind eye to what's going on in their home country.
medicineman
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You are one crazy sick mother fucker. I wish no-ones son to Die, even yours. I'd really like to know how it's my fault if your son goes to Afghanistan and dies. Because I voted for Obama, nice fucking try asswipe.
Stoney McFried
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Not IOWA!!!That's where I am, dammit!That would be really inconvenient!
Stoney McFried
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That's it, I'm getting my camos on and my rusty machete...foreign invaders will be given Tetanus!!!
VTXDave
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Right. You're a liar Med. Hell, you've even have gone on record stating that you'll kill your own step-daughter one of these days...not to mention the INNUMERABLE times you've told members how well armed you are, how great of a marksman you are, and how you're not afraid to use your weapons. You wish people dead, either by your hand or others.
misshestermoffitt
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Just cross the border into Illinois Stoney, I'll hide you !!!
Stoney McFried
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Amnesty, amnesty!!!Or is that asylum?Probably asylum.You've heard of drury township haven't you?It's an old town that used to be on the river, they say much of it is underwater now, it was flooded.My dad used to dig old bottles a lot, looked for old town sites.Right above it on the bluff was Jimtown,named for all the guys named Jim in that town.http://www.illinoisgenealogy.org/rock-island/drury_township_illinois.htm http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mygermanfamilies/Drury.html http://www.historicmapsrestored.com/countymaps/o-s/rock-island1876.html
medicineman
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I'll say that any increase in troop strength anywhere is bad, but in Afghanistan it will only deepen the quagmire. We're playing right into their hands. We are bringing Americans to their land so they can kill more of us, It's like giving them a present. Here's 30,000 more targets, have a blast. Hopefully, Obama will pull his head out on this one and let Osama go. He will be worth more dead than alive if we kill him, the old Martyr thingy. Let's get the fuck out of muslim land and see what happens.
NorthwestBuds
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I could not agree with you more Med. There is, and has never been, any reason to be there spending billions of dollars. It's a ripoff in terms of getting any results. I say bring all the troops home today and they can all fuck off.
medicineman
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The only reason I can see to be in Afghanistan, well there are two actually:
1. the Union oil pipeline.
2. surrounding Iran. You better believe there are missles somewhere in Afghanistan and Iraq that are ready to fire on Iran. We'll never hear about them on the MSM.
Seamaiden
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While I agree with the first portions of your statement, I disagree with the idea that the Taliban are seeking Americans to kill. That's Al Quaida and other (Saudi funded) fundy groups. They (Taliban) really want to be left alone to kill each other in peace.
john.roberts85
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I'm not a big Obama guy myself, but there's a vast amount of difference. First off, in order for a war to be considered 'just' there has to be an UNSC resolution approving of an invasion or an immediate threat (so a preeminent strike can be launched). If it doesn't meet those two standards, it's considered a 'war of aggression.' In the case of Iraq, a UNSC resolution was abandoned after the U.S. was caught trying to eavesdrop on six UNSC member nation. There also not an immediate threat; therefore, it was a 'war of aggression.' That's why a number of those on the left call it a preventive, not a preeminent strike. I put quotation marks around those terms because others will contend that UNSC 1411 was grounds for an invasion. The U.N. disagrees but oh well.Heh heh...
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/12/20/afghanistan.us.troops/
I love this quote...
Quote: "McKiernan requested the additional 20,000 troops be sent to fight the increasing violence by the resurgent Taliban forces in the southern and eastern parts of the country."
And we're fighting the Taliban why? Are they a threat to our national security?
Couple this with Obama's promise to redeploy troops from Iraq to Afghanistan and it's a done deal. But I'm sure this is a "just" war now that Obama is taking the reins, right?
He's going to perpetuate the Bush Doctrine. Told ya so...
In the case of Afghanistan, the U.S. can easily claim that an immediate threat was posed by the Afghani Taliban; they were at the mercy of Al-Qaeda, and they couldn't go after them because of popular support. That said, Afghanistan will be much more difficult to pacify than Iraq. There's a basic lack of infrastructure in place making it more difficult for adequate troop movement. It also doesn't help that a significant number of Pakistani Taliban continue to pour over the border and provide material support to the Afghani Taliban. Sorry to ramble; I'm high.
strangerdude562
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I say kill those Taliban motherfuckers, and yes they are increasing troops in Afghanistan. my friend was deployed a few weeks ago.
john.roberts85
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Let's hope he returns home safe.
strangerdude562
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Let's hope he returns home safe.
thanks i'm hoping so, last i talked to him they were targeting bomb makers and high value targets alike.