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Trichy Bastard
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Yeah, I never used it, but have considered trying, let me know how it goes. I don't think the bleach would effect it, otherwise it would say not to use with tapwater. 6 drops/gallon in r.o. yeilds less ppm than most municipal levels according ot what I've read.
So i went to so cal for the weekend,.. left the room all alone,... came back to nothing but bigger nugs! Nothing like going on vacation and shit working right for ya while you're gone. 
EDIT: So last time i chopped one down, i gave it 96 hours of darkness, using a hula hoop and some black white poly, right in the middle of my other flowering ladies, basically made a one plant tent. I was going to chop after 72hrs but couldn't get to it when i planned, (so in other words i was hung over),.. but now that i'm not,.. i was wondering if anyone knew what adding periods of dark time to a flowering plant, for say 72 hours (which i believe is the norm said by those who think this helps), what would it do if we did that say a month before harvest,... then went lights on, and did it again before harvest like normal. Think it would help to do it more, or does the added light time you'll need to add make it a mute point?
EDIT: So last time i chopped one down, i gave it 96 hours of darkness, using a hula hoop and some black white poly, right in the middle of my other flowering ladies, basically made a one plant tent. I was going to chop after 72hrs but couldn't get to it when i planned, (so in other words i was hung over),.. but now that i'm not,.. i was wondering if anyone knew what adding periods of dark time to a flowering plant, for say 72 hours (which i believe is the norm said by those who think this helps), what would it do if we did that say a month before harvest,... then went lights on, and did it again before harvest like normal. Think it would help to do it more, or does the added light time you'll need to add make it a mute point?
Trichy Bastard
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Messing with the dark period like that is likely to cause hermies, imo... Other than that I am not sure of any benefit. If the plant senses anything out of the ordinary that might threaten it's life, or severe conditions, it will try to reproduce as quickly as possible to ensure it's lineage, growing balls and pollinating itself is how it tries to accomplish this. If you try it, or find any reputable info to the contrary, let us know.
hmm... hermies... hmmmm...... I've had a little experience, not all bad, not all good..
The good...
The woody kush strain i grow, the first time i grew it from seed, it hermi'ed, and never had a light problem or stress from seed to harvest. But from the 2nd generation on with it, never a sack or a seed. And the pollen sacks that did grow in the 1st gen, didn't grow in the nugs, they grew close to them, but on the branch, kind of neat, and just a few pollen sacks too, not many, just enough, the smoke wasn't effected to my knowledge.
The bad,..
But this other strain, a fem seed, (again never any stress, 18-20 hours light in veg, then 12/12 till there cropped) it's first gen had pollen sacks in the nugs, but never any pollen in the sacks, they were all empty. It smoked like shit, low trichomes, probably because it spent energy making sacks in the nugs, i got rid of it all, but the last plant of that strain ive still got growing is a 2nd gen and it has no pollen sacks in the nugs at all. Looks a lot more covered in trichomes then the 1st gen, and its had the exact same environment as the 1st gen had. I might re-veg it if it smokes good.
The ugly!!!
The good...
The woody kush strain i grow, the first time i grew it from seed, it hermi'ed, and never had a light problem or stress from seed to harvest. But from the 2nd generation on with it, never a sack or a seed. And the pollen sacks that did grow in the 1st gen, didn't grow in the nugs, they grew close to them, but on the branch, kind of neat, and just a few pollen sacks too, not many, just enough, the smoke wasn't effected to my knowledge.
The bad,..
But this other strain, a fem seed, (again never any stress, 18-20 hours light in veg, then 12/12 till there cropped) it's first gen had pollen sacks in the nugs, but never any pollen in the sacks, they were all empty. It smoked like shit, low trichomes, probably because it spent energy making sacks in the nugs, i got rid of it all, but the last plant of that strain ive still got growing is a 2nd gen and it has no pollen sacks in the nugs at all. Looks a lot more covered in trichomes then the 1st gen, and its had the exact same environment as the 1st gen had. I might re-veg it if it smokes good.
The ugly!!!
Trichy Bastard
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Anyone know where to look for corrugated plastic sheeting? I saw Mike had some on his new bubble cloner, but I think he may be on vacation. Anyway, the idea I'm thinking of will be to use those panels around the insides of my chamber with some chilled water running through them to keep things cooler for now. I am not sure how the condensation on them might adversely effect things, but if the nutes are chilled to a similar temp, perhaps it won't be such an issue.
Mike Young
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I'm here another two weeks. I use politco signs, lol. HD has small sheets of it. I've seen 4 x 8 sheets online, but shipping would likely be a bitch on something like that. Glad to hear ya trying this. I think it should work. I experimented with a small piece, and had some issues with water coming through at the ends more than the middle of the sheet. I used my old sureflo which is the wrong pump for that kind of job. I'd go high flow. I was able to hold a blow torch on the plastic panel without it burning through.
Trichy Bastard
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Cool, thx Mike.. I will check the Depot... This DIY page for making solar collectors seems a nice starting point, chick this out- pretty cool! http://www.iwilltry.org/b/projects/build-a-simple-solar-water-heater/
PetFlora
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You might not need to water inject. A few layers should provide sufficient air gap insulation. Be simpler too.
FYI Plants with trimmed tap roots are doing just fine. Alas, another one is a male. For sho one is female, the last to soon to tell
Here's final pic of the plant I baby sat for 31 days. Moved her out this morning into darkness for 48. She was finished under HO T5 using various aquarium bulbs to simulate LED spectrums. She is soil based, but thought you might like to see how T5s can flower.
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FYI Plants with trimmed tap roots are doing just fine. Alas, another one is a male. For sho one is female, the last to soon to tell
Here's final pic of the plant I baby sat for 31 days. Moved her out this morning into darkness for 48. She was finished under HO T5 using various aquarium bulbs to simulate LED spectrums. She is soil based, but thought you might like to see how T5s can flower.
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Trichy Bastard
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Thanks pf, unfortunately a couple inches of closed cell foam was insufficient, so I think I'm going to have to chill. but at least the foam will help keep the cold in. The plant you babysat looks like it might have had some nute issues, burn perhaps. What was your thoughts in how it turned out?
Mike Young
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That's pretty badass. I hate when I think I have an original idea. When you're at HD, check in the corrugated roofing isle for this new greenhouse material. It's clear/blue, thick, and had bigger channels. Its not in every market, and is spend, but it is some cool material.
Trichy Bastard
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I'll look for it, although I suspect smaller channels provide more surface area and therefore heat transfer. Your idea was still your origninal thought, and it's good to see it was a good one. I still credit you for giving me the original idea to look for that- so thanks much brotha
konagirl420
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Yay Go Tb!!
PetFlora
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TB I wasn't referring to the closed cell foam. I meant the corrugated sheets- several layers with all the air space MIGHT be sufficient.
Here's an idea How about circling the pod with a one inch pvc that you drill a bunch of small holes in aiming them at the pod... connect to a lp pump + a 15 minute timer and cycle it as needed during day light hours?
RE Plant photos: Either my friend who asked me to baby sit it isn't being forthcoming, or the guy who supposedly dropped it off never returned his call when I asked normal questions; strain, soil, ferts... The soil was totally saturated when I got her. I think he probably blasted it with a bloom booster, and locked nutes out. It quickly developed a nasty case of gnats, and PM. I was killing gnats 3-4Xs a day using an electric fly swatter as well as spraying H2O2 on small PM colonies. I had some left over pollen from my afgani dom male and dusted one lower branch, but she might have systemic issues that get passed down.
Trichy Bastard
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Yeah, it's tough to know where to start when the plant has issues and the guy won't tell you what he did to it. Hopefully he didn't spray them with RAID or some sort of toxins in the soil. Can't complain about recieving a couple free plants though can u...
Hey TB,.. just got my filters in, same ones as you have. I need to make an HD run tomorrow to get um installed, but they look tits 
I'm wondering something now though,.. how many gallons are those filters good for? Through my acc-less system i run 3gal a day through my 200 mesh filters now. Think they'll clog fast?
I'm wondering something now though,.. how many gallons are those filters good for? Through my acc-less system i run 3gal a day through my 200 mesh filters now. Think they'll clog fast?
Trichy Bastard
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Mine ran for 3 months when I last looked- and it was still white and brand new looking. Not sure when it'll even need changing with the light nutes I use. There is actually alot of surface area and they're meant to last 6 months or so under whole house flow conditions- so I think you'll be fine. The cartridges are only 2-3 bucks anyway, and pretty easy to switch out. I guess I still recommend bleach in the water because those cartridges are made from vegetable cellulose if I am correct, and if so, can be a breeding ground for bacteria. I would not use organics with them, or in HPA at all anyway, but other than that- I think they'll last quite a bit and I'm wondering if I'll ever be able to tell if the pump is working too hard once the cartridge is filled or not. Perhaps once per crop, or every other would be a good idea...Hey TB,.. just got my filters in, same ones as you have. I need to make an HD run tomorrow to get um installed, but they look tits
I'm wondering something now though,.. how many gallons are those filters good for? Through my acc-less system i run 3gal a day through my 200 mesh filters now. Think they'll clog fast?
Mike Young
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I thought I'd give a reply to that recent hp aero/debate vid. http://goanimate.com/go/movie/0Eng8xFV3p8w?utm_source=emailshare&uid=0CaFgG6IAvI4
Startin to zz top.
Startin to zz top.
Trichy Bastard
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Verry nice man... But you already knew that! Good to see your nozzles are doing the job too- that's pretty good proof. I am glad you went through with testing them. It's always nice to know working aero nozzles are as far away as the local Home Depot- and cheap too! Had to rep u on this one- well deserved! Btw- what are your rootzone temps running at, and what ec/ppm r u currently running? Oh yeah, and also good to see your innovative root chambers are doing the trick too...