Trump's War on Factual News Journalism.

Roger A. Shrubber

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Fuck James o Keefe in his stupid asshole. He deserves any terrible thing that happens to him.

Edit: seriously, he is one the most garbage people in the country and we would be better off as a species if he got fucked to death by an elephant. His work helped set the stage for where we are now in terms of "journalism."
yeah...pretty much...
 

hanimmal

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then someone needs to be reigned in, it's very easy to make the leap that this was in retaliation for the theft of his daughter's journal, and you better believe that's exactly how the republicans are going to paint it, with a 6 foot wide roller
Yeah but the Republicans are liars.

So just because they say it, doesn't make it true that Biden ordered this raid on a known propagandist. People shouldn't be able to skate just because known liars and propagandists are going to cry foul. Shit Bannon was claiming that Biden picked the DoJ on him too.
 

HGCC

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Might as well make it worthwhile. Republicans are going to find some stupid thing to get outraged about no matter what.

Would rather he do something and catch heat than sit on his ass and have the Republicans try to impeach him for eating gray pupon mustard.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Yeah but the Republicans are liars.

So just because they say it, doesn't make it true that Biden ordered this raid on a known propagandist. People shouldn't be able to skate just because known liars and propagandists are going to cry foul. Shit Bannon was claiming that Biden picked the DoJ on him too.
i know that, you're preaching to the choir...preach to the republicans who are going to use this, and the trumptard magats that are going to believe it...Biden is skating on thin enough ice right now, he needs to do some hard core consolidation, make some brownie points somehow, and allowing this kind of thing to happen isn't helping him in the polls, which are way more important than they ought to be...instead of being a semi accurate guess at the state of the nation, they've become a windsock that magats follow like pigs following the slops bucket. if the polls say people don't like Biden, then even more people won't like him, because they're lemmings, rushing over the same cliff they fell off of yesterday. none of this is a good thing, none of it is "right"...but it's the way it is, and if you don't deal with the way it is, it will deal with you.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
i know that, you're preaching to the choir...preach to the republicans who are going to use this, and the trumptard magats that are going to believe it...Biden is skating on thin enough ice right now, he needs to do some hard core consolidation, make some brownie points somehow, and allowing this kind of thing to happen isn't helping him in the polls, which are way more important than they ought to be...instead of being a semi accurate guess at the state of the nation, they've become a windsock that magats follow like pigs following the slops bucket. if the polls say people don't like Biden, then even more people won't like him, because they're lemmings, rushing over the same cliff they fell off of yesterday. none of this is a good thing, none of it is "right"...but it's the way it is, and if you don't deal with the way it is, it will deal with you.
How do you know one of those idiots won't accidentally stumble on these posts?

Just because I am responding to your post doesn't mean that I think it is only being seen by you (although I have no delusional state of grandeur or anything so I doubt many people will read anything I write).

The Republicans are spamming everything and anything right now in the hopes that anything sticks a year from now. Fuck them, I no longer care what it is that they think they can get away with, as long as we start seeing some of them being held accountable.

And that is what this fuckery from the far right propagandists have been getting lately so I think that someone stealing this from the apartment of the daughter of a public figure getting the FBI's attention is a good thing and don't buy it as being anything other than that.
 

CatHedral

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Might as well make it worthwhile. Republicans are going to find some stupid thing to get outraged about no matter what.

Would rather he do something and catch heat than sit on his ass and have the Republicans try to impeach him for eating gray pupon mustard.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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How do you know one of those idiots won't accidentally stumble on these posts?

Just because I am responding to your post doesn't mean that I think it is only being seen by you (although I have no delusional state of grandeur or anything so I doubt many people will read anything I write).

The Republicans are spamming everything and anything right now in the hopes that anything sticks a year from now. Fuck them, I no longer care what it is that they think they can get away with, as long as we start seeing some of them being held accountable.

And that is what this fuckery from the far right propagandists have been getting lately so I think that someone stealing this from the apartment of the daughter of a public figure getting the FBI's attention is a good thing and don't buy it as being anything other than that.
you, and i hope, I, are reasonable, semi intelligent people. we both seem to be able to see through at least the more obvious bullshit...but we're talking about a large segment of the population that is neither reasonable or intelligent. do not expect rational behavior from the irrational. the faster anything can be done to improve Biden's polls, the better. magats may not be much more intelligent than goldfish, but they have a much longer memory
 

CatHedral

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you, and i hope, I, are reasonable, semi intelligent people. we both seem to be able to see through at least the more obvious bullshit...but we're talking about a large segment of the population that is neither reasonable or intelligent. do not expect rational behavior from the irrational. the faster anything can be done to improve Biden's polls, the better. magats may not be much more intelligent than goldfish, but they have a much longer memory
silverfish actually
 

hanimmal

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you, and i hope, I, are reasonable, semi intelligent people. we both seem to be able to see through at least the more obvious bullshit...but we're talking about a large segment of the population that is neither reasonable or intelligent. do not expect rational behavior from the irrational. the faster anything can be done to improve Biden's polls, the better. magats may not be much more intelligent than goldfish, but they have a much longer memory
I disagree.

It just seems like they have a long memory since they get spammed nonstop and since nothing can pierce their propaganda bubbles it just seems like they do.

The more that these propagandists get shut down the sooner we get through this mess that the disinformation warfare that the Republicans have been running on brought about.
 

hanimmal

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https://apnews.com/article/business-arts-and-entertainment-journalists-congress-992f41e92d9402299eaffe798048cd12
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WASHINGTON (AP) — A special Customs and Border Protection unit used sensitive government databases intended to track terrorists to investigate as many as 20 U.S.-based journalists, including a Pulitzer Prize-winning Associated Press reporter, according to a federal watchdog.

Yahoo News, which published an extensive report on the investigation, also found that the unit, the Counter Network Division, queried records of congressional staffers and perhaps members of Congress.

Jeffrey Rambo, an agent who acknowledged running checks on journalists in 2017, told federal investigators the practice is routine. “When a name comes across your desk you run it through every system you have access too, that’s just status quo, that’s what everyone does,” Rambo was quoted by Yahoo News as saying.

The AP obtained a redacted copy of a more than 500-page report by the Homeland Security Department’s inspector general that included the same statement, but with the speaker’s name blacked out. The border protection agency is part of Homeland Security.

The revelations raised alarm in news organizations and prompted a demand for a full explanation.

“We are deeply concerned about this apparent abuse of power,” Lauren Easton, AP’s director of media relations, said in a statement. “This appears to be an example of journalists being targeted for simply doing their jobs, which is a violation of the First Amendment.”

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In its own statement, Customs and Border Protection did not specifically address the investigation, but said, “CBP vetting and investigatory operations, including those conducted by the Counter Network Division, are strictly governed by well-established protocols and best practices. CBP does not investigate individuals without a legitimate and legal basis to do so.”

An employee at Storymakers Coffee Roasters, a small storefront shop Rambo owns in San Diego’s Barrio Logan neighborhood, said Saturday that Rambo was not immediately available to comment. He lives in San Diego.

The new disclosures are just the latest examples of federal agencies using their power to examine the contacts of journalists and others.

Earlier this year Attorney General Merrick Garland formally prohibited prosecutors from seizing the records of journalists in leak investigations, with limited exceptions, reversing years of department policy. That action came after an outcry over revelations that the Trump Justice Department had obtained records belonging to journalists, as well as Democratic members of Congress and their aides and a former White House counsel, Don McGahn.

During the Obama administration, federal investigators secretly seized phone records for some reporters and editors at the AP. Those seizures involved office and home lines as well as cellphones.

Rambo’s and the unit’s use of the databases was more extensive than previously known. The inspector general referred possible criminal charges for misusing government databases and lying to investigators, but the Justice Department declined to prosecute Rambo and two other Homeland Security employees.

Rambo complained to Yahoo News that Customs and Border Protection has not stood by him and that he has been unfairly portrayed in news reports.

“What none of these articles identify me as, is a law enforcement officer who was cleared of wrongdoing, who actually had a true purpose to be doing what I was doing,” he said, “and CBP refuses to acknowledge that, refuses to admit that, refuses to make that wrong right.”

Rambo had previously been identified as the agent who accessed the travel records of reporter Ali Watkins, then working for Politico, and questioned her about confidential sources. Watkins now writes for The New York Times.

Rambo was assigned to the border agency unit, part of the National Targeting Center in Sterling, Virginia, in 2017. He told investigators he initially approached Watkins as part of a broader effort to get reporters to write about forced labor around the world as a national security issue.

He also described similar efforts with AP reporter Martha Mendoza, according to an unredacted summary obtained by Yahoo News. Rambo’s unit “was able to vet MENDOZA as a reputable reporter,” the summary said, before trying to establish a relationship with her because of her expertise in writing about forced labor. Mendoza won her second Pulitzer Prize in 2016 as part of a team that reported on slave labor in the fishing industry in Southeast Asia.

Dan White, Rambo’s supervisor in Washington, told investigators that his unit ran Mendoza through multiple databases, and “CBP discovered that one of the phone numbers on Mendoza’s phone was connected with a terrorist,” Yahoo News reported. White’s case also was referred for prosecution and declined.

In response, AP’s Easton said, “The Associated Press demands an immediate explanation from U.S. Customs and Border Protection as to why journalists including AP investigative reporter Martha Mendoza were run through databases used to track terrorists and identified as potential confidential informant recruits.”

It was Rambo’s outreach to Watkins that led to the inspector general’s investigation. While he ostensibly sought her out to further his work on forced labor, Rambo quickly turned the focus to a leak investigation. Rambo even gave it a name, “Operation Whistle Pig,” for the brand of whiskey he drank when he met Watkins at a Washington, D.C., bar in June 2017.

The only person charged and convicted stemming from Rambo’s efforts is James Wolfe, a former security director for the Senate Intelligence Committee who had a personal relationship with Watkins. Wolfe pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with reporters.

In the course of conversations with FBI agents, Rambo was questioned extensively about his interest in Watkins. He used the travel records to confront her about her relationship with Wolfe, asserting that Wolfe was her source for stories. Watkins acknowledged the relationship, but insisted Wolfe did not provide information for her stories.

Rambo said Watkins was not the only reporter whose records he researched through government databases, though he maintained in his interviews with the FBI that he was looking only at whether Wolfe was providing classified information. Rambo said he “conducted CBP record checks” on “15 to 20 national security reporters,” according to a FBI summary of the questioning that was contained in the inspector general’s report.

New York Times spokeswoman Danielle Rhoades-Ha said new details about the investigation of Watkins raised fresh concerns.

“We are deeply troubled to learn how U.S. Customs and Border Protection ran this investigation into a journalist’s sources. As the attorney general has said clearly, the government needs to stop using leak investigations as an excuse to interfere with journalism. It is time for Customs and Border Protection to make public a full record of what happened in this investigation so this sort of improper conduct is not repeated.”

Watkins said she, too, was “deeply troubled at the lengths CBP and DHS personnel apparently went to try and identify journalistic sources and dig into my personal life. It was chilling then, and it remains chilling now.”
 

HGCC

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Trumps a bitch and so are his voters.

Of course they went after journalists. It's what shitty people do.

*by journalist I don't mean a guy that dropped out of high school sitting in his truck wearing wrap around sun glasses rambling about shit he doesn't understand.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I loved the news that the tRUMP and the Bill Orilley rally was a huge failure
They even closed off upper levels to the stadium due to low attendance

it seems bitchin about Biden isn’t as popular as the king grifter hoped it was

more rallies like this will be the norm
I wonder if anybody ever added up how many lives Trumps super spreader event rallies cost, hardly anybody was vaxxed and nobody wore a mask, he sickened hundreds of secret service agents who were forced to attend them.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I wonder if anybody ever added up how many lives Trumps super spreader event rallies cost, hardly anybody was vaxxed and nobody wore a mask, he sickened hundreds of secret service agents who were forced to attend them.
i'm torn about that...they're infecting each other, and many were dying, and that was ok with me, but they do spread it outside their shitty circle, and that's not ok...but you know there's no way to keep a magat out of a walmart or a truck stop...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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i'm torn about that...they're infecting each other, and many were dying, and that was ok with me, but they do spread it outside their shitty circle, and that's not ok...but you know there's no way to keep a magat out of a walmart or a truck stop...
Donald could put the mike in his ass and fart instead of speaking and the rally crowd would still cheer, but I suppose there's not much difference between which end the shit comes out of.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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i'm torn about that...they're infecting each other, and many were dying, and that was ok with me, but they do spread it outside their shitty circle, and that's not ok...but you know there's no way to keep a magat out of a walmart or a truck stop...
Donald is charging the rubes now, if it was free he would have done better and filled the place with white trash. Imagine paying $138 to hear these clowns lie and get infected with covid as a bonus!
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CunningCanuk

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Donald is charging the rubes now, if it was free he would have done better and filled the place with white trash. Imagine paying $138 to hear these clowns lie and get infected with covid as a bonus!
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A fool and their money….
 

CatHedral

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Donald is charging the rubes now, if it was free he would have done better and filled the place with white trash. Imagine paying $138 to hear these clowns lie and get infected with covid as a bonus!
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Anybody find a figure or estimate for how many attended?
 
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