TVMASDL Grow No. 1

So here's some updated pics from earlier today.

Started some LST today, took each side of the V stem and tied them down to the sides of the planter so the new little shoots in the middle can get a lot more light.

It's going to make a nice bush of potential clones.

The day 21 pics are of our runt plant, making a pretty good recovery from its shaky beginning. Still a bit small for 21 days.

Lemme know what you think.


[Edit: BTW, this plant is already starting to reek up the closet, is it normal for it to smell like that during veg? Just curious.]

lookin pretty good man!!!

Thanks!

Here's some LST pics from today, she has started filling out nicely. She's got four tops going right now, more LST will be happening relatively soon. Should be a good lookin bush in the next week.

Also some LST pics from my wife's plant, the runty one. It's filling out nicely as well, doesn't look as impressive as mine though. But to be fair mine was a freak mutant baby born with two tops.

The runt pics are the last two.

Thoughts? Advice?



[Edit: That pot in the first two pics is 10" in diameter. Just for scale. Plant's about 10" wide.]

Go runt go!! I mean GROW runt grow!

Some updated pics, they continue to bush out pretty well. The big ones at least a foot wide now if not a little more. I think the top of the pot might be wider than 10".

The runt also continues to dominate it's way to the top of the pot. It's upper canopy breached the top of the planter a couple days ago.

Thinkin of taking a trial clone from each plant to get a solid cloning method down and sex these ladies (hopefully). Maybe in another week or so, new shoots are about 2 1/2 inches long now, 3-4 nodes.

I hear punching a hole in the top of a tupperware container and just dipping the bottom inch or two into the water and leaving it there. The technique posted by rollitup pretty much. Only I was thinking of leaving the tupperware on top of a heat pad, heard it helps.

Opinions on this hormone-less cloning method? Or should rooting hormone be a must have thing?

Also I've gotten mixed signals on the use of humidity domes in cloning before, some people say they can cause mold issues and things like that.

Opinions?

? do your pots have drainage

Yup.

the first pots you use didn't look like it, reason i ask.

QUOTE: "I hear punching a hole in the top of a tupperware container and just dipping the bottom inch or two into the water and leaving it there. The technique posted by rollitup pretty much. Only I was thinking of leaving the tupperware on top of a heat pad, heard it helps.
Opinions on this hormone-less cloning method? Or should rooting hormone be a must have thing?"
Rooting hormone HELPS. It is not neccessary but will increase your chances and decrease the time it takes to get roots. This is strain dependant but 75 F seems to be the perf temp for rooting clones. So dont use the heat pad if it will make it warmer than that. As for the tupperware....make sure it blocks out the light. It must be DARK for roots to develope. And I HIGHLY recommend you put an airstone in the tupperware. I had a cutting in a cup of water for 3 weeks and no roots. But then i put an airstone in there and had roots 2-3 days later. The oxygen is the key. So if you DONT get an airstone. Definitely put some hydrogen peroxide in the water. 1 TBLS per gallon. And change the water out at least once a weeks if not more. Also, the right amount of light is important. To much and the plant will photosynthesize and not make roots. And too little light is no good either. Flouros at a distance of around 10 inches is supposed to be good.

There are MANY MANY different ways to clone. I'm still perfecting my methods. Its really a trial and error kind of thing. Temp, light, humidity and oxygen are the variables. Some get lucky and get these all right the first time. Sometimes one or more of these is just off the mark and....failure.
Good luck!

So, the big plant was transplanted today. Managed to do a pretty clean transplant, even knocked off a bunch of the rootball dirt without damaging any roots.

This was an appropriate move right? I've read it's pretty effective at reducing some shock and encouraging root growth. Dug out a hole for "her" and held the roots in and gently covered with dirt so the roots were suspended and not bunched up. Read that somewhere around here too at some point...

But anyway I assume it was a success because she seems completely fine, and she was moved and watered in about 10 hours ago. Unshackled her as well, I thought I'd give her a little time to grow up instead of out, she was 15" wide when measured earlier today.

The runt also continues to grow relatively slowly, but it's chugging along focusing on two new tops growing out further from the bottom.

LST.

I never met a plant that didn't enjoy a nice transplant into a bigger home. She might stall out above ground for a few days while she makes a ton of new roots , but then she'll likely explode with new growth.
Dont water again till its nice n dry. Maybe a week depending on your RH.
Stay green. Peace.

Yeah, this will be her last home unless I move her outside. And that's probably not going to happen. It's a 4gal. bucket, so chances are I won't be watering again for about a week like you said.

No transplant shock really it looks like, she's taller/wider this morning than she was last night.

So here they are on day 46/38 respectively.

The bush continues to...bush. I mean seriously, it's bushy. It has shot up in height since I unshackled it too. Gonna buy a propagation tray with a heat mat/humidity dome once my wife gets paid and take some clones for sexing.

The runt continues to bush out towards the bottom, LST continues full swing for this one. It was transplanted a few days ago into a 4gal., seems happier.

Looking very good my man.

Thanks, sexing is coming up soon.

I'm nervous.

Almost two months veg, taking clones the day after tomorrow.

As for plant health, I think the pictures speak for themselves.



[Edit: Can a mod move this post to grow journals? I feel out of place.]

nice looking plants.

So we cloned today.

Here's the pics of the aftermath.

Added two 26w Soft White CFL's to each plant for some supplemental lighting. Should help with quick regrowth. Also re-tied the bigger plant to help light penetration a bit. Doesn't need to be any wider it's already 25" wide, we just didn't want to top it yet.

The runt was topped and the top cloned to even it out, that was the only clone taken from it. The first six clones are from the big plant, the last one on the far right is the top from the runt.

Clones are in peat pellets which were saturated in pH 6.8 water and two drops of Superthrive in a gallon.

Looking good man. Are you going to flower soon now that you took your clones?
Keeping those peat plugs not too wet and not too dry will be the tricky part to getting them to root. Some peroxide could help you.
"Hydrogen peroxide is essentially water with an oxygen atom attached to each molecule. Its chemical formula is H2O2. The second oxygen atom is ready to jump from the peroxide to other molecules and to oxidize them. It readily jumps onto mold spores and bacteria and destroys them by burning them up. Peroxide is sold in different strengths. Indoor garden shops sometimes sell 10% peroxide, but drug stores usually sell the 3% strength.
One part of 3% hydrogen peroxide can be combined with two parts water, or one part 10% solution is combined with nine parts water, to make a 1% solution. This solution should be used for cuttings for the first week. Nutrient and amendments can be added to this mix. It can also be used in the sprayer if you mist the plants. It is a sterilizing agent, so your cuttings are much less likely to suffer infection" -Ed R.