UCLA study links HFCS to cancer.

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funkdocKT

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tnrtinr said:
It is a good docu. When you say organic are you getting that locally from a farmer or from a grocery store? If you are getting it from a grocery store (as I assume you are cause you are buying dog food) you kind of missed the point of the documentary. Monoculture is the "problem." Because of monoculture we have problems that we need chemicals to solve. Grocery store organic is grown by huge factory farms in the same style that the other fruit is grown only using "Organic" fertilizers / pesticides. Organic does not mean SAFER or HEALTHIER.

This is really bad when the Organic label is slapped on an unregulated Chinese grown crop and shipped to America for your consumption. You literally don't even know how that food was grown (much less organically).

While monoculture is the problem - it is also the solution to the worlds hunger.

If you liked Food Inc. Check out King Corn. It is all about US corn production / subsidies. Good stuff.
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...and i think you missed the point when i said "raw organic diet" for my dog meaning NO KIBBLE, meaning i dont buy actual dog food, meaning i dont get it from grocery stores. He eats human grade meat, bone and all.

My dog and i both only eat meats grown by "organic" independent growers who strictly have grass fed cattle and non-corn fed poultry. I typically drive 3-4 hours to central california (SLO, Prunedale, etc) and stock up on meats...As far as veggies, i havent bought anything that hasnt come from a local independent farmer (farmers market for example) in over 3 years.
 
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tnrtinr

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funkdocKT said:
...and i think you missed the point when i said "raw organic diet" for my dog meaning NO KIBBLE, meaning i dont buy actual dog food, meaning i dont get it from grocery stores. He eats human grade meat, bone and all.

My dog and i both only eat meats grown by "organic" independent growers who strictly have grass fed cattle and non-corn fed poultry. I typically drive 3-4 hours to central california (SLO, Prunedale, etc) and stock up on meats...As far as veggies, i havent bought anything that hasnt come from a local independent farmer (farmers market for example) in over 3 years.
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blazin256

blazin256

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tnrtinr said:
The point I was making was that someone stated there is a 1000% increase in the use of HFCS since 1970. I was saying that there wasn't a 1000% increase in the amount of sugar we consume and the "whopping" percentage is only that large because in 1967 we consumed 0 HFCS because it had yet been discovered. Any increase from zero is huge percentage wise but not nominally.

First off that graph does not show exponential increase. Secondly it shows what I was saying - that corn sweetener is being substituted for sucrose. Our total sugar intake has increased; but it is more like 25%. I agree that we as a nation consume too much sugar - that is why I have already stated "That being said, we should reduce ALL refined sugars in our diets (but I am sure we all know that already)."


BTW sucrose is the same thing as HFCS. It is a disaccharide in the same ratio of glucose and fructose as HFCS. You are falling into a marketing trap if you think it is a "healthier" alternative.
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i see. but 25 (28% according to graph) is still a great increase. the exponential part is the increase of HFCS which is what i was driving at. no, sucrose may not be more healthy, but it is more natural. considering that the corn itself is genetically modified just adds to the equation. just like it was said in the UCLA article, a campaign should be launched against the use of it. but it wont cause cancer is big money. just like big agribusiness (monsanto) and big pharmaceuticals.
 
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