Using boosters in super soil(koolbloom/gravity/snowstorm ultra/Crystal burst

metalmilitia777

metalmilitia777

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So my question is, Can I use any of those Boosters and if so what ratio do I use them in and how many times a week. I start 12/12 today so need advise ASAP!
Being I use Subcool's SS recipe Ineed to be careful what I add and how much of it.
 
last i heard those organic hormones are not a naturally occuring chemical in any food or smoked crop. I also heard that the use of those hormones should only be considered for ornamentals and shrubs, not to ever be used on food crops because of carcinogenic effects when introduced to humans.

So I wouldnt think it would be beneficial to apply that stuff at all. especially to somthing like super soil which shouldnt need anyhing besides some sugars/carbs and plain ph'd water.

AND I HOPE those meds your growing wont be going to other sick patients who could be fighting a terminal cancer if u do use that stuff.., or any kind of immune disease. definately not what they donated for.

have a great day
 
I don't know about koolbloom but for the rest you need to be careful with the Humboldt stuff. Use only half the amount it says.

To be honest you really don't neen chemical hormones when growing in SS. I know it's crap because I had the opportunity to try them and pretty sure the rest of its product line is pretty shady too. If you want to alter strain characteristics for worst and among other things, sure go ahead use this stuff as long as you're the only one smoking it.
 
super soil at the very most needs:
1. a carbo (sucanat or molasses)
2. liquid karma (humic/fulvic acid.. yucca extract as a wetting agent..)
3. hygrozyme (enzyme that keeps your roots healthy and breaks down organic matter into a more easily usable form)

NOTHING ELSE.. no boosts.. all that bottled crap is just a gimmick.. and bushmaster should never be used. it is very unhealthy, and it NEVER leaves the plant once its been used. adding synthetics to an organic soil grow is not benefiting you in any way, infact itll hurt the soil life and give you worse results, plus your weed will not be clean and smooth which is the whole reason to use something like super soil.. if you want to use that crap you'd be better off in hydro or coco.
 
I want to thank everyone for your replys! Also I would like to explain why I would add anything to the Super Soil, I am just experimenting with different nutes and boosters within my grow all my plants will be using different products so I can see what works and what doesnt also I will be keeping half or more of my plants in just plain super soil and feeding plain ph'd water. I was just wondering if other have done this before and how it worked out for them and what they did to apply these to there plants (foliar or drench). I also like to inform y'all that my medicine is just that mine I dont donate at all I jar all of it and it is consumed by myself and my family and they know exactly how I grow and what I use, that being said with the replys I have received I will probably just try it out on a couple of plants and make sure they get a proper flushing. One more time Thank you guys I wouldn't be able to grow the bud I grow with out the help of all of you.
 
Bloom boosters and all the products you mentioned are schwag and not what you wanna use for bigger, resinous flowers...especially in supersoil :(

I like to use humboldt bloom 0-10-0 and technaflora soluble seaweed from week 4-6 for a boost!! also AACt's are a gem in my regimen!!
 
Old thread. But helped ty. Did you try the koolbloom on ss?!
Still considering using koolbloom in my ss. I started with the GH line up using like 8 different syn nutes. It worked beautifully. But was to much work with all dem nutes. Tested subcool it did just as good so went full subcool. Then tested michigan mediums ss. It seems as good as subcool but premade. In the long run cheaper n easier. Only issue and reason for my koolbloom idea was for the extra stressing for terps and to help finish them up quicker. Use to crop after 9-10weeks now they get to weeks 11-13 before they ripen if even then. Liquid n dry kb's both stress a plant enough to add more flavor. They say.
But I know it will help ripen them up. So thanks again. Will try it but will keep in mind the hazardous theory. If flushed for 2 weeks how could it hurt? Only thing bad imo is being not flushed or sprayed with gmo pesticides or mold sprays. Like wax if not done right can harm but if vacuumed"flushed"right your good ta go.
I know miracle grow is bad for smoking cause of the high nitrogen but other than that never heard anyone claiming synthetic nutes to be harmful if flushed right. Seems like organic peeps like to put down synthetics just for pride not facts. So it seems. No scientist here. Figured this might help others looking for answers as I. Weed growers have religious beliefs about growing and some are just not true but they hold dear to them. Lol
 
FlatOutFoggin said:
Old thread. But helped ty. Did you try the koolbloom on ss?!
Still considering using koolbloom in my ss. I started with the GH line up using like 8 different syn nutes. It worked beautifully. But was to much work with all dem nutes. Tested subcool it did just as good so went full subcool. Then tested michigan mediums ss. It seems as good as subcool but premade. In the long run cheaper n easier. Only issue and reason for my koolbloom idea was for the extra stressing for terps and to help finish them up quicker. Use to crop after 9-10weeks now they get to weeks 11-13 before they ripen if even then. Liquid n dry kb's both stress a plant enough to add more flavor. They say.
But I know it will help ripen them up. So thanks again. Will try it but will keep in mind the hazardous theory. If flushed for 2 weeks how could it hurt? Only thing bad imo is being not flushed or sprayed with gmo pesticides or mold sprays. Like wax if not done right can harm but if vacuumed"flushed"right your good ta go.
I know miracle grow is bad for smoking cause of the high nitrogen but other than that never heard anyone claiming synthetic nutes to be harmful if flushed right. Seems like organic peeps like to put down synthetics just for pride not facts. So it seems. No scientist here. Figured this might help others looking for answers as I. Weed growers have religious beliefs about growing and some are just not true but they hold dear to them. Lol
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once something is in the plant, you can't "flush" it out, for one. for 2, the plant doesn't know if the nitrogen or other nutes came from synthetic or organic, it just gets nitrogen. plus you dug up an 8 yr old thread.
 
teddy bonkers said:
once something is in the plant, you can't "flush" it out, for one. for 2, the plant doesn't know if the nitrogen or other nutes came from synthetic or organic, it just gets nitrogen. plus you dug up an 8 yr old thread.
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Yes...but i post threads nobody answers and coming to old threads for info is what many do.
Nice to see only feedback i get here is rudeness. Thanks wise guy. Lol.
For one its what I've heard that's why miracle grow is bad. Again perhaps a religion. A false belief.
So flushing doesn't really flush..? Not a ? Lol.
 
FlatOutFoggin said:
Yes...but i post threads nobody answers and coming to old threads for info is what many do.
Nice to see only feedback i get here is rudeness. Thanks wise guy. Lol.
For one its what I've heard that's why miracle grow is bad. Again perhaps a religion. A false belief.
So flushing doesn't really flush..? Not a ? Lol.
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The main problem with MG is the time release nutes. I've just recently started using their organic soil and it has worked as well as Roots or Ocean Forest for me. With the right soil mix, you don't really need any of that extra stuff. Maybe some Dr Earth Flower Girl or another organic flowering blend 2-3 weeks into flower.
 
Gullett79 said:
The main problem with MG is the time release nutes. I've just recently started using their organic soil and it has worked as well as Roots or Ocean Forest for me. With the right soil mix, you don't really need any of that extra stuff. Maybe some Dr Earth Flower Girl or another organic flowering blend 2-3 weeks into flower.
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Yeah its not the yield really why I'm trying it. But to stress them more to ripen sooner. Afraid if I put anything healthy they will stay healthy. I want them to ripen better n faster. Week 12 no yellow n still tons of white hairs no amber just milky. A top dressing never hurts though.
Actual curious and peehaps you may know. Can you sprinkle dry koolbloom like guano to top dress? Calling GH tomorrow to ask. But you know salesman. Lol be nice to have a second opinion.
 
FlatOutFoggin said:
Yeah its not the yield really why I'm trying it. But to stress them more to ripen sooner. Afraid if I put anything healthy they will stay healthy. I want them to ripen better n faster. Week 12 no yellow n still tons of white hairs no amber just milky. A top dressing never hurts though.
Actual curious and peehaps you may know. Can you sprinkle dry koolbloom like guano to top dress? Calling GH tomorrow to ask. But you know salesman. Lol be nice to have a second opinion.
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Honestly, I would skip the Koolbloom altogether if your plant is healthy and your soil is in good shape, especially if you're working with a good organic/living soil. Alot of the timing of the plant has to do with genetics, anyhow. What strain are you running? I ran a haze strain a while back that took almost 15 weeks from the first sign of pistils.
 
Gullett79 said:
Honestly, I would skip the Koolbloom altogether if your plant is healthy and your soil is in good shape, especially if you're working with a good organic/living soil. Alot of the timing of the plant has to do with genetics, anyhow. What strain are you running? I ran a haze strain a while back that took almost 15 weeks from the first sign of pistils.
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I have many strains atm. Working through them to keep the best ones. But your right sativas take longer to ripen and the ss is living. But i just buy new ss everytime so if i kill off the soil it wont matter. I wouldnt start dry kb till week 8. Which should force them to ripen faster plus low stress should add flavor. Rather start fresh everytime then try to doctor the soil up to re-use it. Then end up with a bad yield cause i didn't doctor it up right.
I'm new to ss n fogponics. But its a fun learning process.
Though....if not harming the ss it would still be healthy making for a great outdoor veggie garden.
Have read in forums that syn nutes don't kill micro organisms. Was said only thing that does kill the ss is if you use to much not flushing weekly making it too salty. The salt build up over time harms organics. But not nutes themselves. So I've heard. Again could be just a religious belief without facts. But is what i read. Also heard you want to kill off plants at the end. The harder hit at the end the better the flavor. So ive heard. Its not like an ever bearing plant where you want it to produce again.
But again ty and have an awesome weekend!
Think I will try it on a plant or two to see.
 
If you want more terpene and resin content in a Living soil try adding a product like Soil Balance Pro. It's a natural biological mix and has been shown to increase growth, terpene production and oil/resin content.
Killing off the plant at the end of flowering isn't really what you are after. It will die on it's own. What you might want to do is more along the lines of stressing it. Try just smashing the stem just below the bud (supercropping), so it bends over a few days before you want to harvest then wait a week.
 
intensive said:
last i heard those organic hormones are not a naturally occuring chemical in any food or smoked crop. I also heard that the use of those hormones should only be considered for ornamentals and shrubs, not to ever be used on food crops because of carcinogenic effects when introduced to humans.

So I wouldnt think it would be beneficial to apply that stuff at all. especially to somthing like super soil which shouldnt need anyhing besides some sugars/carbs and plain ph'd water.

AND I HOPE those meds your growing wont be going to other sick patients who could be fighting a terminal cancer if u do use that stuff.., or any kind of immune disease. definately not what they donated for.

have a great day
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Sooooo, I think I missed the part where koolbloom was a carcinogen?!
That's literally what my hydro system calls for in the feeding regimen!
But nothing in it's ingredients or hormones are cancer causing?
Could be different because I'm in hydro but now I'm scuuured
 
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