Using Urine As a Fertilizer

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MediMaryUser

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maybe i should up the urine to water ratio and keep watering my male plant to see if it "takes off" lol hahaha what if i keep uppin the pee to water dosage til im at like half pee half water and the male plants just grows huge haha

what do you all think should i jk
 

SwizZchEeZe

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I agree that just pissing on plants that you are going to consume later is just plain gross.

Really though, if you boil it, you are just going to evaporate the water and concentrate what makes it piss (salts, toxins in your body, etc). Urine is sterile, so there is really no reason to boil it.

Still though, I don't want to smoke piss plants. :neutral:
lol..piss plants LoL seems kinda weird but understand the Logic behind it hmm
 

Derivs

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so lets see.. cow shit good.. urine bad...

Urine is sterile and a great source of Nitrogen and minerals. Just don't use it too close to harvest or too concentrated otherwise great stuff.
 

farel2

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I really dont see the harm if you are actually an organic person......

like others have said numerous and multiple kinds of Manure" Animal Shit" is in our soil already. So if you have no problem with putting tons of different kinds of shit in your soil but are not willing to try diluting urine or w.e give your head a shake. I see no difference when it come down to it.
 

atomicronick

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for starters.
If anyone supports the idea, that does not mean they will do it. if someone says they will do it, kudos to them! im sure they will share the knowledge to those whos minds are not closed.
all mamals, not animals, waste contains some nutrients. cow pies have alot of nitrogen. if you fall into a pool of cow poop, you will actually die...
simple, tried tested and true method. natural fertilizers.
noone ever likes to take wild risks with their babies, who the hell would. but, what are the disadvantages to using fetrilizer that you know where it has come from.
it is a mental block. the same way people cant get over people being gay, becuse they think of gay sex, and that is gross. right. wrong. its an opinion. the facts are what make the world go around. not what one person thinks.
get over your mental block, it isnt worth it.
that being said, ill try it once. if it doesnt work, to hell with it. ill stick with everything else i know. i dont need to smoke pee, i smoke good shit.
CHECKMATE
 

HaNDyGrOw

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I had a a friend long time ago that botteled up his piss and mixed up with the nutients and what not.. his bud always was super healthy and one hitter quiter type shit.. so must not be to bad in healthy doses
 

josh b

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my friend done this but i cannot remmeber th musurments for how he diluted it with water i dont have ph tester and im just using normal tap water whih is apparently fine
 

emmaegdy

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are your buds going to smell and taste of piss to becouse there is some nute,s thats made to add flav. to your buds so im guessing your buds will smell and taste like piss when harvest and cured i think the longer you cure it the more it will smell like piss
and i suppose its what goes into your body is whats comes out so some people piss will be more toxin than others

lol dude ur plant will not taste/smell like piss in any plant it has systems that takes the urine breaks it down to h2o and nutes and the smell disappears very fast! lol dude ive grown many things and urine is one hell of a organic fertilizer! i hope this helps :bigjoint:
 

indica44

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I cannot beleive this thread piss works great to grow buds simple as that. I have friend who is a farmer an has been using his own pee for years to water his plants. Two parts water to one part piss grows big healthy plants simple as that . You are willing to use every kind of bird shit cow shit bat shit but pea no fing way eh well it is inexpencive an always available/ one thing he did say if you have kidney disease or liver disease it wont work . Ihave seen him feed them i have tried the weed and it was good outdoor bud and pardon the pun but no flushing necesary hahaha
 

rep 219z

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why did i not think of this sooner?

i think i may go as far as shitting in a 1 gallon container, and mixing it up with some ph'd water.

not really,

but i may give the piss a try.
 

RyxMarley

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I found this at hg420 and thought it was pretty informative (props to BuddyNugs) so here it is, also i took out a couple of not-so-important paragraphs to meet the 10,000 character restriction

a link to the original thread can be found at HomeGrown420 - Can I use my urine as a fert. (OG refugee thread)


Can I use My Urine as a Fertilizer?

Sure you can. In fact Sweden has tested a full scale urine ‘recycling’ program. Among their findings they have discovered that urine is a complete fertilizer for farm use, lowers the environmental impact of wastewater, improves recirculation of the 3 main nutrients, and that the hygienic risks are negligible if handled properly. Nature has been making use of urine for centuries before humans had even mastered the art of agriculture. Animal wastes contain nutrients that plants needs, and in return they provide us with nutrients we need. It is a circle that has been broken only in recent years, but before you go using your pots as a urinal you will need to be aware of how to use your urine. DO NOT PEE DIRECTLY ON OR AROUND YOUR PLANTS. You will burn them. The following will detail everything that you need to know to be successful.

Use in Soil
Pure concentrated urine will burn your plants; it must first be diluted with water. Typically a ratio of 1 part urine to 10 parts water is effective. Some have gotten away with a slightly higher ratio on unusually hungry girls. It is recommended that you do not exceed 1:10, even though a nutrient burn with urine is rare, the smell can be unpleasant, and salts will build quickly, at higher concentrations. For younger plants start with a ratio of 1:20-1:30 and work your way up. As always do not fertilize germinating seedlings. Wait until the cotyledons (little round leaves) have fallen off before beginning any fertilizer regiment. Also it is not needed every water, every other or every third is sufficient. Let your plant do the talking, if she is a nice dark green then lay off a little, use a weaker solution and lower frequency, if she is getting on the yellow side then step up the strength a bit. Note: Urine can have a high salt content, depending upon your diet. I recommend that when you water with plain water, you allow some run off (approximately 1/8-1/4 volume of your pot) and toss it, this should rid your soil of excess salts.

Use in Hydro
About 8 ounces (1cup) for every 3 gall or reservoir water has been effective (thanks foto) but you should adjust according to your conditions, plant needs, and smell issues. The nitrogen in urine (ammonia and urea) must first be consumed by bacteria as food. The bacteria then store the nitrogen in the bacterial protoplasm. As the Bacteria die, they liberate the stored nitrogen as nitrate, sort of like a time release capsule, to be taken up by the plants. In soil this is no problem but in hydro setups there may not be enough bacteria culture to breakdown the urea and ammonia. Therefore it will be a good idea to drip your Res water through a porous material that can support a bacteria culture such as lava rocks, ceramic bio filter material, foam, sponge. It is up to you; it does not need to be fancy just able to support beneficial bacteria. This step may not be required if your root mass is large enough or if you have a trickle system through a porous medium like rockwool or coco. To get a good start on your bacteria culture you can get some bio-filter booster liquid from any aquarium shop. This liquid contains "good" bacteria that will help you develop a thriving population use as directed (usually a few drops per gal.)


Nutrient Levels (approximation, will vary according to diet)
Alanine, total ..... 38 mg/day
Arginine, total ..... 32 mg/day
Ascorbic acid ..... 30 mg/day
Allantoin ..... 12 mg/day
Amino acids, total ..... 2.1 g/day
Bicarbonate ..... 140 mg/day
Biotin ..... 35 mg/day
Calcium ..... 23 mg/day
Creatinine ..... 1.4 mg/day
Cystine ..... 120 mg/day
Dopamine ..... 0.40 mg/day
Epinephrine ..... 0.01 mg/day
Folic acid ..... 4 mg/day
Glucose ..... 100 mg/day
Glutamic acid ..... 308 mg/day
Glycine ..... 455 mg/day
Inositol ..... 14 mg/day
Iodine ..... 0.25 mg/day
Iron ..... 0.5 mg/day
Lysine, total ..... 56 mg/day
Magnesium ..... 100 mg/day
Manganese ..... 0.5 mg/day
Methionine, total ..... 10 mg/day
Nitrogen, total ..... 15 g/day
Ornithine ..... 10 mg/day
Pantothenic acid ..... 3 mg/day
Phenylalanine ..... 21 mg/day
Phosphorus, organic ..... 9 mg/day
Potassium ..... 2.5 mg/day
Proteins, total ..... 5 mg/day
Riboflavin ..... 0.9 mg/day
Tryptophan, total ..... 28 mg/day
Tyrosine, total ..... 50 mg/day
Urea ..... 24.5 mg/day
Vitamin B6 ..... 100 mg/day
Vitamin B12 ..... 0.03 mg/day
Zinc ..... 1.4 mg/day

approx 2 liters is excreted /day.

Human urine is a great source of auxin, in fact one of the most potent auxins can be found in human urine; indol-3-acetic acid or IAA. Among many things auxin is known to stimulate flower growth, promote ethylene production, and stimulate root growth.

I have gone though an entire grow using urine without any deficiencies, but many feel that during flowering your phosphorus levels are too low. If you desire, a bloom fertilizer may be used in tandem during the flowering phase.
A tea made with the Russian comphry plant (3.6-1-10.6) is an excellent organic bloom fertilizer for those of us who do not wish to use chemicals at any step. Also a tea of bone meal, or bone meal in your soil mix is probably the best way to add Phosphorus.

In addition I would, and have, cut back on the amout of urine used in the flower period (both frequency and consentration). There is some evidence that Nitrogen in excess will inhibit flower growth, and increase your 12/12 time.

Your body can only absorb about 10-15% of a multivitamin/mineral pill the rest is flushed out with your urine. Taking a multivitamin/mineral about 3 hours before your urine collection can give you many vital micro nutrients.

A balanced and healthy diet means balanced and healthy urine. Keep fit and eat well and you should have nutrient rich urine and happy plants.

PH
The PH value for human urine can range anywhere from 5 and 8.5 but most often is found between 5.5 and 7.5 in healthy individuals with a balanced diet. A value of 6 is average. High protein diets can lower PH (more acidic) and Vegetarian diets raise PH values (more alkaline). Urinary infection will increase PH value. Test your PH and lower it (coffee, lemon juice, or vinegar are great organic PH downs) if any higher that 6, especially if in a hydro system, or increase your protein consumption. If the soil you are using is fairly acidic, like peat moss you will want to make sure you are not dropping it too low with acidic urine; dolomite lime can help you buffer this up, or increase your vegetable intake and lower your protein.

Pro's

It Works
Tried and true. In my (and a few others) opinion it works as good as commercial fertilizers when used properly. A side by side clone to clone test has not yet been done (to my knowledge), but there is no question that urine produces healthy, frosty, dank nugs, as good as anything out there.

Cheap
You can't beat free can you? Not likely. Weather you are growing for pleasure or profit saving money is something that I think we all desire. If you have no problem with spending the money, then go right ahead. Call it ghetto if you want, I call it natures gift, and I intend to make the best of it.

Available
It’s like fertilizer on tap. No hasty visits to the hydro/garden shop. No “I’ll have to do without for a while”. It’s always there when you need it.

Environmentally friendly
Many of us would like to preserve the earth. Well organic fertilizers are the way to go if this is part of your ethos. Chemical fertilizers are produced from petroleum products, natural gas, and coal. Minerals are made more soluble with acids. After the compounds are used by the plant the contaminants left over in the soil can become poisonous and over time can leave the land depleted and ‘dead’. Using organic fertilizers closes a cycle of life that has existed for millennia. We feed the plants and they feed us, much like the oxygen and carbon dioxide cycle.

Compost
Urine in your compost pile is probably the best way to get extra Nitrogen into your mix.

Con's

Salt content
Human urine will contain various salts. Depending on diet your urine can contain up a max of 2.2% salt, this is because the human kidney cannot concentrate salts to greater than 2.2%. On average salt content will be about 30g/L Total dissolved solids constitute about 5% of urine volume. As previously stated it will be to your benefit to allow some run off when watering and toss it, this will rid your soil of excess salts.

Infections and parasites
Hygienic risks are negligible, unless the urine comes in contact with pathogens after leaving the body. The urine of a healthy person is sterile in the bladder. If you have a urinary tract, or kidney infection your urine will contain bacteria that can infect others. It is quite impossible for the infection to be passed through the plant, bud or smoke. If you are sick the majority of pathogens that can transmit disease will die within 24 hours of leaving the body. Infections will increase both your salt content and PH values, and can contain bacteria that consume nitrates.

Imprecise
Urine fertilizing is not an exact science. Exact nutrient levels and concentrations cannot be accurately established without the proper equipment. Notwithstanding some trial and error is necessary in every fertilizer regiment. Certain strains can have differing tolerances, different growing conditions and methods vary in their ability to deliver nutrients reliably.
Don't do, not even in 1/10 in water, it will simply burn your leaves in a brown way in less than 2 or 3 days.:leaf::wall:
 

indyman

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my dog pisses all over the place in my back yard not good but i do note when i come behind him with hose it stops any yellowing on my land scape, but i dont see better growth at all.salt build up is of the most concern in a potted plant so just sick with what works for u if it is pissssss great,NOT FOR ME BRO'S!! GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!!!!
 

MrBaker

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No way I'd attempt to feed plants with my dirty urine.

I knew a guy that grew some pretty nice buds from his own pee and sheep shit. He treated his body more like a temple, and less like a laboratory, so his urine was probably fairly clean.
 

samljer

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You guys can laugh all you want to, but every time you shop, alot of veggies grown in other countries have been pissed all over
remember that at dinner tonight.

Countries like sweeden, africa, parts of the UK, all have "piss recycle" programs lol

Deal with it now or later, but soon enough, your going to have to.
 
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