cephalopod
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Has anyone had an oppurtunity to have her tested, also looking to hear any other pertinent info on care and medical results with her. Thanks in advance, if you have her, I know you must be in for the good fight.
ValentineXXX
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mrbungle79
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I plan on it but check with stOw as he's already harvested I believe.
FatMarty
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I got mine from stow and it is doing real well in early veg.
It's a wispy stem/branch thing that looks very fragile;
But I have had her under my usual air flow and she holds her own.
I am just feeding normal so far and have nothing but success.
Fingers crossed, and eager to see her in bloom.
It's a wispy stem/branch thing that looks very fragile;
But I have had her under my usual air flow and she holds her own.
I am just feeding normal so far and have nothing but success.
Fingers crossed, and eager to see her in bloom.
st0wandgrow
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I harvested my first one a few weeks ago. I gave the last bag of it to someone that said they were going to have it tested ..... but I haven't heard anything back. Every other gram was used for patients. So far I am getting very good feedback from those patients, so I know it's working just unsure of the numbers. I have two more in flower right now and I will have extra this time for testing.
Marty is right. It is a wispy plant. Not a real heavy feeder, and not a huge yielder either. I find tomato cages or some other type of support to be helpful as the branches are quite thin and don't support bud weight very well. Nothing unusual beyond that aside from that weird twist on the tips of fan leaves.
Marty is right. It is a wispy plant. Not a real heavy feeder, and not a huge yielder either. I find tomato cages or some other type of support to be helpful as the branches are quite thin and don't support bud weight very well. Nothing unusual beyond that aside from that weird twist on the tips of fan leaves.
cephalopod
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Anyone working in DWC with her? I've been having a hard time getting things going, starts pushing roots out in an aero cloner fine and then just stalls. I'm thinking I need to try a different medium, so I grabbed some mg organic starter soil(I know, but it was what was available to me) and am going to give that a whirl. Is anyone having to feed or just using amended soil?(care to share the recipe?) As for now mom is up potted in coco/hydroton, ready to up pot her into some soil as well. Thx again for the help guys. I'm just not a soil guy and if it was any other finicky filly I would have tossed her by now, but she is important to me.
st0wandgrow
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I started mine out in Happy Frog in a 1 gallon container once it had roots. Left it there for 3 weeks giving her only dechlorinated water. It then got transplanted in to a 7 gallon container which was filled with my own soil mix. 1 cf coco coir, 1 cf sphagum peat moss, 1 cf worm castings, 1 cf rice hulls/perlite. That base was amended with 1 cup per c/f kelp meal, alfalfa meal, crabshell meal, oyster shell flour, neem seed cake, garden gypsum, soft rock phosphate, and an all-purpose organic fert. To that I added 3 cups per cf rock dusts.
The first one I grew ended up yielding about 75% of what I would normally expect from other plants. The two I have in flower are very healthy, but look to be similar in stature. 6 weeks veg, and 8'ish weeks of flower should yield around 3 oz's of nice bud with some lower scarf above and beyond that.
The first one I grew ended up yielding about 75% of what I would normally expect from other plants. The two I have in flower are very healthy, but look to be similar in stature. 6 weeks veg, and 8'ish weeks of flower should yield around 3 oz's of nice bud with some lower scarf above and beyond that.
DemonTrich
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I also have one that was gifted to me from St0w. she is doing great. and x2 on the whispy "fragile" looking plant. im in soil, with a mix of approx. (I just did handfuls when I mixed the soil up) of FFOF and FFLW soils. I did notice a small cal/mag dif that went away on its own after some of the ffof soil magic got mixed into the plant. my ffof soil is amended with perlite and 1 cup dolomite lime. thanks for the heads up on the tomato cage, gonna go get one today. she is doing nicely in the 3 gal pot I have her in now. <br>
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Stow, I also popped one of those ATF autos.
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Stow, I also popped one of those ATF autos.
FatMarty
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This plant has dangerous right wing tendencies; it really likes talk radio.
Seems to perk up for Limbaugh and then slump for Savage; so I am trying Drew and Mark on her for late afternoon drive time...
My stems have almost doubled in girth; but new growth is slower than most.
It cuts new lodes fairly quick; but then the new growth is latent.
I'm starting to lose a little of the end curl on the larger leaves; yet all new growth has the twist prominent.
I'm going to transplant later today I think - I'll post image or two then.
Work is dead today: literally I think.
Went to do a shower pan and the guy didn't wake up.
Cops are there on welfare check and called Bro back; so we assume the dude is dead.
Apartment in W. Bloomfield.
We don't touch sleeping people even when we walk in with pass keys as per agreement -
After years of insurance work in the city you learn not to shake folks in their own home.
The old pistol in the face trick...
He stood and screamed Hello! many times: nothing.
Time to go man. Tell management to check him out.
Could be faking because he doesn't want work done today.
Could be staging something.
You never know - best to walk away and let others deal with it.
Been accused a couple times in 3 decades of this work of stealing; both times it was the homeowner trying to run a scam and they got caught without my input.
That's good enough for me.
Seems to perk up for Limbaugh and then slump for Savage; so I am trying Drew and Mark on her for late afternoon drive time...
My stems have almost doubled in girth; but new growth is slower than most.
It cuts new lodes fairly quick; but then the new growth is latent.
I'm starting to lose a little of the end curl on the larger leaves; yet all new growth has the twist prominent.
I'm going to transplant later today I think - I'll post image or two then.
Work is dead today: literally I think.
Went to do a shower pan and the guy didn't wake up.
Cops are there on welfare check and called Bro back; so we assume the dude is dead.
Apartment in W. Bloomfield.
We don't touch sleeping people even when we walk in with pass keys as per agreement -
After years of insurance work in the city you learn not to shake folks in their own home.
The old pistol in the face trick...
He stood and screamed Hello! many times: nothing.
Time to go man. Tell management to check him out.
Could be faking because he doesn't want work done today.
Could be staging something.
You never know - best to walk away and let others deal with it.
Been accused a couple times in 3 decades of this work of stealing; both times it was the homeowner trying to run a scam and they got caught without my input.
That's good enough for me.
cephalopod
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Thanks a lot everyone. Going to try a few new things and see...
st0wandgrow
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A couple shots of Valentinex. These were at 2 weeks flower. They are now at 5 weeks flower and have really fattened up. Not much vertical growth for these though. They're a good foot shorter than other strains that were flipped to flower at the same time. If you want a bigger plant, looks like this strain will require more time in veg. I will be getting these tested this time around and will post up test results when I have them ....
cephalopod
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Looking good stow. I've been meaning to see if any results have shown up at Iron lab yet. How many weeks have you guys been taking her?
st0wandgrow
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Nate told me 6-7 weeks. Initially that seemed ridiculously early to chop, but after growing her a couple times now I'm starting to believe it. Mine are at 5 weeks now and are already looking close to being done. I'll snap a couple pics tonight when I get home. Plus it seems that CBD peaks sooner than THC, so a better ratio would probably be had with a shorter flowering time. I might take a sample bud a week before I chop and get flowers tested from different intervals to see if there is any difference.
DemonTrich
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looking good bro!!!!! mine is looking huge in her 3 gal pot. I was going to flip her today, but I might just wait until I flip on my regular cycle (about 25 days from now). ill postup a few pics a bit later.
st0wandgrow
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Might be a good idea to wait. They won't even double in size when you flip the lights. I'm going to veg my next batch a couple weeks longer and see how that works.
cephalopod
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Sweet, looking forward to seeing more pics and thanks for the good info. I would probably wanted to go 8 weeks at least. Any positive reports from patients?
st0wandgrow
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Yes. Both patients are symptom free. I still want to see the #'s for myself, but the positive patient feedback is encouraging.
st0wandgrow
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Ceph, Demon ..... I've been doing quite a bit of research about CBD and it's effects on different ailments. It's all good news where CBD is concerned, but I'm also finding through research and patient feedback that THCA is just as important and effective. In a nutshell, as long as you don't carboxylate/heat marijuana that is THC rich it will stay in the form of THCA which is non-psychoactive, and every bit as therapeutic as CBD for most conditions.
Not that any of us would make extractions with the current state of the law here in Michigan (insert smiley face), but if things change down the line and you want to make a concentrate for a patient there are a couple ways that are best suited for our goal of not carboxylating the THCA. You can make an alcohol tincture using frozen marijuana and very cold spirits/alcohol doing a couple quick rinses and letting the alcohol evaporate off over the course of a couple days. Or, you can do a dry ice extraction of the resin glands and add that sift to a coconut oil. I really like doing it this way. You can agitate for a longer period than people would that are making hash, and the dry ice is so cold that it turns the plant material in to a powder that is fine enough to pass through a 90 micron bubble bag and be infused in to your oil. I like having some plant material in the mix. Ideally you could add one part high CBD flowers, and 1 part high THCA flowers to your mix, along with some plant matter from both flowers for a resulting oil that is going to have the full spectrum of cannabinoids in a non-psychoactive form. Coconut oil is well suited for this btw.
Not that any of us would make extractions with the current state of the law here in Michigan (insert smiley face), but if things change down the line and you want to make a concentrate for a patient there are a couple ways that are best suited for our goal of not carboxylating the THCA. You can make an alcohol tincture using frozen marijuana and very cold spirits/alcohol doing a couple quick rinses and letting the alcohol evaporate off over the course of a couple days. Or, you can do a dry ice extraction of the resin glands and add that sift to a coconut oil. I really like doing it this way. You can agitate for a longer period than people would that are making hash, and the dry ice is so cold that it turns the plant material in to a powder that is fine enough to pass through a 90 micron bubble bag and be infused in to your oil. I like having some plant material in the mix. Ideally you could add one part high CBD flowers, and 1 part high THCA flowers to your mix, along with some plant matter from both flowers for a resulting oil that is going to have the full spectrum of cannabinoids in a non-psychoactive form. Coconut oil is well suited for this btw.
st0wandgrow
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A couple week 5 pics....
For perspective, here she is with a Grape Puff plant in the background that was vegged for the same amount of time and flipped to flower on the same day. The Valentinex is a good foot shorter
For perspective, here she is with a Grape Puff plant in the background that was vegged for the same amount of time and flipped to flower on the same day. The Valentinex is a good foot shorter
Huel Perkins
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Keep in mind, its not only heat but time and oxidation also cause decarboxylation.
So when making THCA meds its important to use them as fresh as possible (skip the long curing process, and drying altogether if it suits your extraction process) and keep the material in air tight containers and refrigerated.
st0wandgrow
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Yep for sure. Good point Huel