Variety Grow - Perpetual, "Mini" ScrOG's, DWC in a Cabinet (First Timer)
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oOBe RyeOo
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What is this?!?! Is Gamber starting to show off some BUD PORN?!?!?! Haha this is some good times for you.
Who woulda thunk? Well, am I right?
Man I'm beginning to feel something...has something to do with butterflies and bees.
You guys better watch it or I'll knock your heads 50 days into the future and you'll think I'm actually harvesting! 
So anybody else catch the soft "people" porn they were showing on Discovery Channel? They took a couple and had them "do it" inside an MRI machine. After the insertions, first man into woman and then the couple inserted into the MRI, neither one was allowed to move a muscle (knowing that it would be nearly impossible to stop both from thrusting) for 20 minutes while the scientists gathered the pictures.
I don't know if I'd actually have the staying power with a bunch of nerds walking around with clipboards and cameras pointing at different places on my body while I'm smooshed into an uncomfortable and LOUD MRI machine trying to give them pictures of my little "explosion". But maybe 20 years ago I woulda given it a shot.
Needless to say the pictures were some of the most fascinating I've seen in a long time. But while watching the show, my eyes were dilated, my pulse rapid, blood pressure up and having increased respiration.
Ahh, science just makes me hot!! hahahahahaOkay more catching up to do.
The other day before going out to do some errands, I took a big hit in the garage. When I got back an hour later, I opened up the garage door and realized that my hit was still lingering in the air. Uh oh. No more air movement in the garage if the AC unit isn't running! And it's been cool so the AC hasn't been running.
So I decided to give my system a bit of help. Using panda film and an 80cfm fan I sealed the vent and added back a bit of positive pressure by forcing outside air in.
The top temp (81*) is the temp in my veg cabinet and the bottom temp is at this sensor (63*) where the air is coming in.
Here's my middle cab temps during lights off (one is by the water tanks and the other by the plants). You can also see the max/min for the past 24 hours. Temps couldn't be more perfect! The bottom temps actually dropped 6* 2 hours later. I calculate that I get about 1.5 air changes per hour for the whole garage.
The other day before going out to do some errands, I took a big hit in the garage. When I got back an hour later, I opened up the garage door and realized that my hit was still lingering in the air. Uh oh. No more air movement in the garage if the AC unit isn't running! And it's been cool so the AC hasn't been running.
So I decided to give my system a bit of help. Using panda film and an 80cfm fan I sealed the vent and added back a bit of positive pressure by forcing outside air in.
The top temp (81*) is the temp in my veg cabinet and the bottom temp is at this sensor (63*) where the air is coming in.
Here's my middle cab temps during lights off (one is by the water tanks and the other by the plants). You can also see the max/min for the past 24 hours. Temps couldn't be more perfect! The bottom temps actually dropped 6* 2 hours later. I calculate that I get about 1.5 air changes per hour for the whole garage.
Let's talk food a bit.
This is all I'm using. Bloom and Boost together make up the base, Awesome Blossom are the micronutes, and then Cal/Mag. You can see my Top Fin Chloramine treatment in the back left. I also treat all water with SM-90 to keep my root bug problem under control.
2/4/2011 was the day the plants went 12/12 and at that time were on full strength veg nutes. For the first 5 days I topped the tanks off with pH water and full strength Cal/Mag (it's the same dose for vegging and flowering) while weening them off the veg nute mix. On 2/9 I did a full water change using the 950PPM formula and full strength Cal/Mag.
After the water change was over, I mixed up a new bucket of the full recipe at 1700PPM, full dose of Cal/Mag and this time a full dose of Awesome Blossom. I keep an airstone running and use this bucket to top off my tanks (1.5L/day) which gradually is raising my PPMs as the plants drink more. I'm sure I could push faster but the plants are so fucking happy I'm just going to maintain the status quo.
Remember the Aesops fable about "The Dog and The Bone?" I'm one man who's quite happy with what I have and am not going to be greedy.
Now here's the beauty of using small tanks. Unless something bad starts to happen, I won't have to do a water change. I'm replacing 1.5L/day in 8L tanks which in essence is changing the water every 5 days. As long as my PPMs stay consistent throughout even with the addition of water, I can assume they are eating and drinking everything equally and not creating any salt buildups in the water.
So my last interesting tidbit for now. How do you measure PPMs that are 2300 (1700PPM nutes + cal/mag + awesome blossom + sm/90) using a meter that can only read 2000? Answer: Take 100L sample of tank water and mix it with 100L of tap water (with a known PPM) then take a reading of the mix. Then use simple math and a bit of algebra to take the difference and recalculate the ratio.
peace
This is all I'm using. Bloom and Boost together make up the base, Awesome Blossom are the micronutes, and then Cal/Mag. You can see my Top Fin Chloramine treatment in the back left. I also treat all water with SM-90 to keep my root bug problem under control.
2/4/2011 was the day the plants went 12/12 and at that time were on full strength veg nutes. For the first 5 days I topped the tanks off with pH water and full strength Cal/Mag (it's the same dose for vegging and flowering) while weening them off the veg nute mix. On 2/9 I did a full water change using the 950PPM formula and full strength Cal/Mag.
After the water change was over, I mixed up a new bucket of the full recipe at 1700PPM, full dose of Cal/Mag and this time a full dose of Awesome Blossom. I keep an airstone running and use this bucket to top off my tanks (1.5L/day) which gradually is raising my PPMs as the plants drink more. I'm sure I could push faster but the plants are so fucking happy I'm just going to maintain the status quo.
Remember the Aesops fable about "The Dog and The Bone?" I'm one man who's quite happy with what I have and am not going to be greedy.
Now here's the beauty of using small tanks. Unless something bad starts to happen, I won't have to do a water change. I'm replacing 1.5L/day in 8L tanks which in essence is changing the water every 5 days. As long as my PPMs stay consistent throughout even with the addition of water, I can assume they are eating and drinking everything equally and not creating any salt buildups in the water.
So my last interesting tidbit for now. How do you measure PPMs that are 2300 (1700PPM nutes + cal/mag + awesome blossom + sm/90) using a meter that can only read 2000? Answer: Take 100L sample of tank water and mix it with 100L of tap water (with a known PPM) then take a reading of the mix. Then use simple math and a bit of algebra to take the difference and recalculate the ratio.
peace
oOBe RyeOo
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That shit was tight!
Not camera. MRI. Dude it was full 3d rendition of him inside.
All the scientists had to do to get a better view was to move a joystick...ooh I love the pun.
crazytrain14
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deff no way i could hold still for 20 min while inside a chick haha good stuff js
WvMade
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yea i seen that 2 crazy shit they do for science
Got me there!
So if it's porn you want then porn you'll get!! I'm gonna break these up over different posts so I know what I'm talking about!
Here's the first peek of the night. Big changes from last night!!
Remember this bud site from the day before? ( I put last nights pic up again to show the difference)
Day prior
Today
Last night was water maintenance night since I got to the bottom of my refill bucket and had to make more nutes! All the SOG's are drinking about 2L/day (1/2gal) and Blue Dream about 500ml/day (pint). The pictures below show the water levels after 2 days so they are drinking. After 2 days the pH is now up to 6.2. I'm going to shoot for an adjustment down to pH 5.6 so give the girls a bit more Phosphorus in their diet.
Now the bad news. Bugs are back in Blue Dream and SOG#3. I've resigned myself to the fact that this will be chronic and I'll be dealing with them through the remainder of this grow. But after several weeks of this, I know how to spoil their fun!
SM-90 and Oxygenated Water!!
You'll note that these buggers like to hang out in what's called the "root zone" or that space that's not under water. Most DWC growers like to keep this space open to aerate roots. However, these girls are drinking 1/5 tank/day, so even if I fill the water up to the very top, basically drowning the netpot, the plants will drink the water level back down within 6 hours. This works in my favor because I reduce the space where the bugs can hang out and the SM-90 can do it's thing in the netpot without me having to tear everything apart to flush from the top.
Blue Dream - and BUGS
SOG#1
SOG#2
SOG#3-AND BUGS
Blue Dream after top off
Now the bad news. Bugs are back in Blue Dream and SOG#3. I've resigned myself to the fact that this will be chronic and I'll be dealing with them through the remainder of this grow. But after several weeks of this, I know how to spoil their fun!
SM-90 and Oxygenated Water!!You'll note that these buggers like to hang out in what's called the "root zone" or that space that's not under water. Most DWC growers like to keep this space open to aerate roots. However, these girls are drinking 1/5 tank/day, so even if I fill the water up to the very top, basically drowning the netpot, the plants will drink the water level back down within 6 hours. This works in my favor because I reduce the space where the bugs can hang out and the SM-90 can do it's thing in the netpot without me having to tear everything apart to flush from the top.
Blue Dream - and BUGS
SOG#1
SOG#2
SOG#3-AND BUGS
Blue Dream after top off