veg time vs rooting time confusing?

mauricem00 said:

you cannot grow by a clock. seeds from the same strain grow and mature at different rates. I like to limit the height of finished plants because of limited vertical room in my grow room so I veg until the plant is 12 inches tall then move them to my flowering room. the plants will tell me when their mature and ready to harvest not the calendar

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As indoor growers we have a lot of scope to manipulate these things to some extent though...

Dr. Who said:

Count what? Count why?

The fucking counting thing is useless!

Veg till the plant is as tall as you want (keeping in mind how much it will stretch) and bloom it.
Bloom a plant till it's done/ripe and harvest!

Now that's simple......

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Exactly, only useful reason I keep a count from the flip for reference is to time veg times for my perpetual runs.

Genetics and environment play a huge roll, when you find a sweet spot they really get moving and it varies from pheno to pheno which is why you can only really judge clones. For example this white widdow bean is 5 days old & it seems to be loving my setup (my green cracks love it too) however i have GDP & killer queen clones that freak out in the same room with terrible veg speed. See where everyones getting at?

hillbill said:

I never have pulled a plant at a specific number day, but consider trich color and state of pistils retracting and many less or no new pistils for replacement.

I like a specific start point so as not to be shocked at someone's Grow that has huge buds at 4 weeks in flower. You might wonder how your buds are so small and you put the plant in the flower area a couple days earlier than that grower. But the other grower's plants were flipped 6 weeks ago but pistils were not seen by the grower for 2 weeks which is when he/she starts counting.

Just a reference point.

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I pay far more attention to the swelling of the calyx. In relation to the trich coloring. Then you have sativa's and heavy sativa's that don't really amber much, if at all! That's where calyx swell and any foxtailing come in.....Good indicator of near or at harvest - in relation to ....... calyx swell.....

I tend to run longer with those that do not express amber well.....They get better, a lot better. I like progressive harvesting the thick full strains - like 91 chem.....5'+ plants - 3 harvest's - 10 days apart (approx) and you can hit some serious % levels that actually rise in the successive harvest's.

Patience is almost always given back in Gold with these plants. With you on the never amber sativas. Some don't swell much either.

Foxtails are something that were a novelty at first are a pain to trim and add very little mass. Having messed some with hazes and other most or all sativa plants, I have come to like more Indica in the mix. May be showing my age!