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doublejj

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The U-2's do that when doing touch and go's. If they are doing "Tactical Takeoffs" they will circle up to altitude over the base, but that is a more prolonged engine noise. I hear engine runs all the time at home, usually on swing shift. They run them up to progressively higher power while checking EGT, then back them down repeatedly.
yep that sounds like it....
 

raratt

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I've seen them flying around too... aren't U2's like 1960's technology? what are we still flying those those around for?...
They are at the S model now, each letter is a major modification to the airframe. They have gone to an "all glass cockpit" now with multifunction displays:
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The sensors onboard have also been upgraded over the years, it has the capability to provide near real time intel with the satellite link.
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It is nowhere near 60's technology.
 

curious2garden

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You cannot see them only hear them.....I can hear them and I have looked for them many times when they sound directly overhead. It sounds like they are dumping fuel or scrubbing off heat or something. it will be silent then a roar and then silent and then a roar all the while circling Beal. But I can never see them only hear them. could be something conventional but I've never heard anything like this engine roar. Very loud short bursts...
You're hearing the doppler shift

The U-2's do that when doing touch and go's. If they are doing "Tactical Takeoffs" they will circle up to altitude over the base, but that is a more prolonged engine noise. I hear engine runs all the time at home, usually on swing shift. They run them up to progressively higher power while checking EGT, then back them down repeatedly.
 

DarkWeb

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You cannot see them only hear them.....I can hear them and I have looked for them many times when they sound directly overhead. It sounds like they are dumping fuel or scrubbing off heat or something. it will be silent then a roar and then silent and then a roar all the while circling Beal. But I can never see them only hear them. could be something conventional but I've never heard anything like this engine roar. Very loud short bursts...
The f-35's are like that.....you can't hear them till it passes. Next to silent coming at you. I see them all the time.
 

raratt

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Is that the old F-5 redesignated to trainer status?
They are the same but different? This tells the story:
 

BarnBuster

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Today in Military History:

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The fall of Singapore to the Japanese Army on February 15th 1942 is considered to be one of the greatest military defeats in the history of the British Empire

An island city, “Gibraltar of the East” and a strategic British stronghold and the capital of the Straits Settlement of the Malay Peninsula, Singapore had been a British colony since the 19th century. In July 1941, when Japanese troops occupied French Indochina, the Japanese telegraphed their intentions to transfer Singapore from the British to its own burgeoning empire. Sure enough, on the eve of the Pearl Harbor attack, 24,000 Japanese troops were transported from Indochina to the Malay Peninsula, and Japanese fighter pilots attacked Singapore, killing 61 civilians from the air.

The battle between Japanese and British forces on the Malay Peninsula continued throughout December and January, killing hundreds more civilians in the process. The British were forced to abandon and evacuate many of their positions, including Port Swettenham and Kuala Lumpur.

On February 8, 5,000 Japanese troops landed on Singapore Island. Pro-Japanese propaganda leaflets were dropped on the islands, encouraging surrender. On February 13, Singapore’s 15-inch coastal guns–the island’s main defensive weapons–were destroyed. Tactical miscalculations on the part of British Gen. Arthur Percival and poor communication between military and civilian authorities exacerbated the deteriorating British defense. Represented by General Percival and senior Allied officers, Singapore surrendered to Japanese Gen. Tomoyuki Yamashita in front of Japanese newsreel cameras. Sixty-two thousand Allied soldiers were taken prisoner; more than half eventually died as prisoners of war.

With the surrender of Singapore, Britain lost its foothold in the East. British Prime Minister Winston Churchill attempted to prop up morale by urging Brits “to display the calm and poise, combined with grim determination, which not so long ago brought us out of the very jaws of death.”

The Japanese took 100,000 men prisoner in Singapore . Many had just arrived and had not fired a bullet in anger. The people of Singapore fared worse. Many were of Chinese origin and were slaughtered by the Japanese. After the war, Japan admitted that 5000 had been murdered, but the Chinese population in Singapore put the figure at nearer 50,000. With the evidence of what the Japanese could do to a captured civilian population (as seen at Nanking), 5000 is likely to be an underestimate. Some of these POW's were used to construct theThai-Burma Railway
(Bridge over the River Kwai, bb). Of the 60,000 Allied POWs who worked on the railway , some 12,500 died, many from disease, starvation and ill-treatment. A great many more Asian labourers, estimated at 75,000, also lost their lives while working on this railway.

The fall of Singapore was a humiliation for the British government. The Japanese had been portrayed as useless soldiers only capable of fighting the militarily inferior Chinese. This assessment clearly rested uncomfortably with how the British Army had done in the peninsula."


 
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Sir Napsalot

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I went out in town one day and there was a little hobby shop with some guys racing on a decent-sized (probably 100-120 feet) 1/24 scale slotcar track
One guy spoke a little English and let me check out his car
I watched them race for a couple of hours, then bought a kit (with a bitchin' McLaren body!) and took it back to the ship and built it, then went back the next day and raced it against the locals and beat the pants off 'em
 

raratt

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We used to take all our straight tracks and hook them together on a friends flat driveway and make a drag strip. They were the smaller scale cars but not HO. Don't remember the scale. I bought my kids a HO track once and attached it to a piece of plywood in the garage, they destroyed the cars in short order.
 

Sir Napsalot

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We used to take all our straight tracks and hook them together on a friends flat driveway and make a drag strip. They were the smaller scale cars but not HO. Don't remember the scale. I bought my kids a HO track once and attached it to a piece of plywood in the garage, they destroyed the cars in short order.
Probably 1/32 scale

I have some old 4-lane 1/32 plastic track, but only enough to make a small oval

I won a West Coast championship racing HO cars in 1988
 

BarnBuster

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I was watching old episodes of "West Wing" and a part of this was quoted. A little research; this was from a poem entitled "High Flight" and was written in early September, 1941 by a 19 year old American pilot John Gillespie Magee serving with the RCAF No. 412 Squadron in Royal Air Force, Digby, England. He was describing the sheer exaltation of his solo run in his Spitfire, decided to compose this "ditty" as he called it, and mailed it to his parents. Sadly Magee was killed soon after on December 11 in a midair collision after a training flight. Portions of this are found on many headstones in Arlington, especially of aviators and astronauts. The original is stored in the Manuscripts vault of the Library of Congress. bb

"Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth,
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth of sun-split clouds -
and done a hundred things You have not dreamed of -
wheeled and soared and swung high in the sunlit silence.
Hovering there I've chased the shouting wind along
and flung my eager craft through footless halls of air.

"Up, up the long delirious burning blue
I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace,
where never lark, or even eagle, flew;
and, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod
the high untrespassed sanctity of space,
put out my hand and touched the face of God."
 

raratt

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I was watching old episodes of "West Wing" and a part of this was quoted. A little research; this was from a poem entitled "High Flight" and was written in early September, 1941 by a 19 year old American pilot John Gillespie Magee serving with the RCAF No. 412 Squadron in Royal Air Force, Digby, England. He was describing the sheer exaltation of his solo run in his Spitfire, decided to compose this "ditty" as he called it, and mailed it to his parents. Sadly Magee was killed soon after on December 11 in a midair collision after a training flight. Portions of this are found on many headstones in Arlington, especially of aviators and astronauts. The original is stored in the Manuscripts vault of the Library of Congress. bb

"Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth,
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth of sun-split clouds -
and done a hundred things You have not dreamed of -
wheeled and soared and swung high in the sunlit silence.
Hovering there I've chased the shouting wind along
and flung my eager craft through footless halls of air.

"Up, up the long delirious burning blue
I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace,
where never lark, or even eagle, flew;
and, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod
the high untrespassed sanctity of space,
put out my hand and touched the face of God."
They used to run this at the end/beginning of a broadcast day on TV.
 
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