VV is singing the blues. From seed to Perpetual Weed.

I wanna know how the LED's are workin out too...should be interesting....equivalent to 400 watt HID....hmmm...wow....maybe....I am watchin

Yep, it should be interesing. I have had it for about three weeks now. I put it over the clones as soon as I got it. SO far I have been following the recommendation of keeping it about 2' above the plants. It is the smallest grow light I have seen. The clones do not look like they are stretching. Right now I have the 400 watt hid and the procyon over the mother plants and two sets of clones, a total of 85 plants.VV

So a good test runj... With and without, the clones under the same light correct, if me stoned ass read it right.!!! So this should give some answers,,, i can imagine me grow rooms all purple that would be... Well just more funner'.. Db.~tlb!

V'. I will call u after they call me!!!

Over the 2 year period I have been growing I have tried a lot of different solutions for what I call the reservoir problem. I recently purchased a 3' by3' floo tray and a 2' by 4' flood tray. The 40 gallon reservoir with lid for those trays is $111.95. The trays including the flood fitting were $80.00 and $60.00 and before any one says a 20 gallon is big enough (its not) that one is $81.95. There is a reason for those prices, in order to withhold the water pressure it does have to have some structural integrity, you can clean them easily.
Here is my alternative to the $100.00 reservoir. Its a Rubbermaid Roughneck, xl 45 gallon or 170 liter. By gettinga res bigger than you actually need and adding your own 'structural integrity' you can have a 40 gallon res for $31.50. Here it is, this one happens to be tan, I have one that it blue also. I picked up a 3/4" pvc x, 2-3/4" pvc t's, 6-3/4" pvc flat end caps and 10' of 3/4" pvc, put it together like you see here and drilled and then screwed thru the side into the end caps above the water line. All of the lines can be disconnected without removing the lid. Next one, I will install the lines in the side. not the top. Constant improvement. Oh, it helps to have a sight level, and you can modify neoprene collars to fit your openings by using a serrated blade.
The container is around $25.00 with the snap on lid, has a set of wheels in the back, no you can't wheel it around with40 gallons of water in it. The parts totaled $6.50. VV

I am already using a 35 gallon i think or 40 gal rubbermaid, but the roughneck line i had never heard of! i am going to keep my eyes peeled for one of these, ad get it, i almost bought the res for my flood table but i decided to wait, and im glad i did!

the 40 gallon one is not good, you need to go to the 45 gallon. The 40 gallon has four pressure point, the corners of course, fill it with water it will leak, you can patch it and it will leak...tried the 37 gallon and the 35 gallon and the......this is one I have used for two years, the blue one, under the 3' table. Because you don't have to put 45 gallon in them for a 12 sq ft table.....VV

VV! How are things friends?

bonsmilie

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VV! How are things friends?

bonsmilie

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I have just been thinking that, how are things. This all started to show how to get from seed to perpetual weed, how are we doing with that. Soo..I went back and read the journal. It doesn't look the same for very long. I think we have a pretty good start. The first set of clones taken from our mother plants are a week old in the aero-cloner now, using dbb's formula, 1/4 strength nutes and 6 ml Hygrozime/ gallon. You can see they are forming roots. The neoprene collars just hold the stem in place, the pump is three hours on, one hour off. Our plan is to transplant them at about two weeks and if we are feeling confident with the size, put them in flowering and take another set of clones. A lot can happen in a week, we will see. Two of the tables have been in flowering now for about 9 weeks. They look like they are still a week or so away from harvest. These other two tables have been in flowering for different lengths of time, one table is less than 1/2 full so they will not pose a problem. The 10 week flowering time may take some adjusting. I have been known to make some adjustments. The vegging stand I started with is back in the garage in pieces. The table I had them on next has been replaced with two seperate flood and drain tables and the clone stand I started with has been replaced with the aero-cloner.
I have used peet pellets, rockwool cubes and Rapid Rooters for starting clones and seeds, now I am not using any medium for the clones, and posted it all. Its been 5 months now, I think Al B predicted it at six months, we may just make it, don't know how the hell we did it though. lol VV

Man very nice VV'... Is that were roots come from, next yur guna tell us theres eggs' in cake....lol!

Look at u...!!! All perpetual! I think we both knew it would happen! I do feel its all up to the grower and the plant... You have taken yur lumps and fined tuned to yur' growing style, along with space... And yes u did pull it off! But u put the time in, along with tlc! And let the plant take you for the ride.!!! Very nice sir'.... Db.~tlb!

you know, it was jus about the time I got this box delivered that I lost track of what I was doing, didn't seem like such a chore anymore, just get-r-done one project at a time. Trial and trial and success. I can see, maybe because I want to, a difference in the bud formation on the plants flowering now, two thing have improved for them, the air temp and rh, are much closer to ideal, it is costing a few hundred on the electric bill, so about $300 for the op, cost of business.
Another thing I did want to make clear. I don't have any additional lighting over the aero cloner, I am depending on the 400watt hid that is over the mothers and the led that is over the vegging clones. I had read this one guys journal, he uses a 1000 watt horizontally to cover his vegging plants and his clones, figure I can do something similar. VV

What fool, would try and cover all that with just a 1000w blip! Lol! Db.~

I like the results I am getting using that Dip And Grow for the cuttings in the aero-cloner. Now can I transplant them to coco without damaging them?? I am really curious about how this is going to work or not. I have always used something, well really just about everything including soil, to put the clones/seeds in and that has always seemed to be the only real anchor point. These won't have that, I will plant them a little deeper. The first batch I put in I used the Rapid Rooters which has been my favorite although it did seem like I had bigger stem with the rockwool cubes??
I do have to say the buds on the flowering plants are the 'stickiest' I have ever had. Of course I would wonder why that is, this will be the second go around for all except the one MediBud that Hazy donated. Al B reminded me of something I 'knew' and hadn't paid attention too, not really sure why, maybe because I didn't feel I could afford to fix the problems.
If your temps are too high, it won't hurt your plants, it will just make them shoot up nice and tall..... and leggy........ and sparse. Kinda like my first batch with these?? I don't think the tallest plant in this batch will match the height of the tall trees I had last time and they are the same strains. Hmmm......Seems like every summer this happens, hey its only been three summers now, stop laughing. You know how old people are.
Well any way, here is a shot of a JuicyFruit Seedling, 9" tall and 8 nodes, been under the led Procyon to this point, I think it looks alright.
I'll be gone for a few days, going to go make a wedding cake with mom. I will have internet so I'll still be around. I think what we are going to do is put the table the oldest clones are on into the flowering room take one table apart and modify it, imagine that. By Monday I want too be ready to transplant this last batch of clones, most of them are large, maybe give them a week in veg, have too get this schedule worked out, thats the whole point. Should have some ready too harvest next week, at least one table, which will give me the opening and we will just have to repeat as necessary. VV

Its all coming togethier!.... Been thinking about the anchor prob. I had that when i trans the bag seed... I knew then for comfort and ease of that anchor i would try to do my seedlings in the rockwool... It has allways worked at 100% for me!!!

?? So are yur #'s 100% to date coming out of the new system! ???

Yur guna work yurself to death mister v' i swear! Lol! Got a new carbon filter for the exhaust fan! Now how the hell am i going to get it in the attic! Hmmmmmmmmmm! "this is going to hurt" me "more than it hurts you!" lol! Wish me luck! Db.~tlb!

looking good! All perpetual! U know yur just along for the ride and the bitches got u tamed' lol! U work for them now! Look at calander~ plant out~ plant in~ look at calander..................!!!

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Its all coming togethier!.... Been thinking about the anchor prob. I had that when i trans the bag seed... I knew then for comfort and ease of that anchor i would try to do my seedlings in the rockwool... It has allways worked at 100% for me!!!

?? So are yur #'s 100% to date coming out of the new system! ???

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I had a couple that didn't make it, you could tell when I pulled them out I had twisted the stem putting it in the neoprene collar.

Yur guna work yurself to death mister v' i swear! Lol! Got a new carbon filter for the exhaust fan! Now how the hell am i going to get it in the attic! Hmmmmmmmmmm! "this is going to hurt" me "more than it hurts you!" lol! Wish me luck! Db.~tlb!

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I'm not sure why you would put it in the attic?? Yes that would hurt, crawling around on ceiling joists is not fun. As long as the exhaust gets pulled thru the filter it doesn't matter where it is.

looking good! All perpetual! U know yur just along for the ride and the bitches got u tamed' lol! U work for them now! Look at calander~ plant out~ plant in~ look at calander..................!!!

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That is the plan, just not sure about the maturing time. Table is all apart and gone. We can rebuild it stronger than is was, faster... etc. lol VV

oh my VV!! juciyfruit is great!! I have been getting it here in toronto for some time now! it is potent and a great motivational high your gonna love it! Its smells like juciy fruit gum but the taste is totally differnt. sweet and spicey with great hashy tones on the exhale. I need to smoke some now.. I recommend a nice fatty or a clean glass pipe to get the full flavors out of her. I find a bong will degrade the flavor with this strain

what up mattso! Havnt seen you in a bit!

Well, that is a suprise hello matt. I have to thank CaliGurl for them, hope you have been following her journal, the clones she has look awesome. I think she is growing the widow now. Anyway, good to see you. VV

Looks pretty thick, promising with the led light, Im so hopping that it works well. It would solve so many problems in my room!!

Hey VV check my Cinderella 99 journal I still got the strain going strong. My Brother has two monsters flowering right now. I will try and get some pics of thos soon aswell
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/44057-dna-genetics-cinderella-99-a-57.html#post1142859

I actually have some Widow/Cindy Seeds that we will probably start in the next month or so. VV