water cooled LED

Bolof

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Anyone that have tried it? How to do it in a smart way? Would it be possible to attack LED straight to copper pipes with heat transfer tape or some kind of glue?
 

BobCajun

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I've seen oil cooled. He just put the cob in the bottom of a mason jar and filled it with mineral oil, which I guess doesn't conduct electricity. Apparently the bottle dissipated the heat enough. He had a bunch of them.

 

Shugglet

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Anyone that have tried it? How to do it in a smart way? Would it be possible to attack LED straight to copper pipes with heat transfer tape or some kind of glue?
Possible with copper, yes. Doubt I would advise it though.

If you want to DIY theres a nice thread around here on making your own light bars out of rectangular aluminum tubing. Much cheaper and easier to work with.

Otherwise I would just go the CPU water block route. This is easy as pretty much everything is "plug and play".

The real question is whether or not your situation would really benefit from water cooling over a more traditional route?
 

Bolof

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I've seen oil cooled. He just put the cob in the bottom of a mason jar and filled it with mineral oil, which I guess doesn't conduct electricity. Apparently the bottle dissipated the heat enough. He had a bunch of them.

OK. cool. But water would be much easier.
 

BobCajun

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OK. cool. But water would be much easier.
Yeah,wouldn't require buying a bunch of mineral oil. Just get some square aluminum tubing about the same width as the COBs, stick em on and pump water through it. Might be a little tricky to attach a round hose to a square tube but I'm sure it's possible somehow. You don't need to buy the big COBs, they have smaller models. You just use more of them.
 

BobCajun

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Pretty much. All the mineral oil is doing is serving as any other passive heatsink would. But likely faaar less efficient at transfering its heat to the environment.
Yeah true. The video says "experiment" anyway. Besides, it would be heavy as hell.
 

Shugglet

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Yeah true. The video says "experiment" anyway. Besides, it would be heavy as hell.
Yeah, Im typically of the belief that people usually over play dangers in a grow room, but something about those mason jars filled with liquid dangling from the ceiling with a light inside rubs me the wrong way. Maybe Im the one over playing the danger this time lol.
 

BobCajun

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I would also recommend using PEG instead of water. It won't make steam or anything due to high boiling point. That's what they use in industrial building heating systems. Don't know if it conducts electricity, probably not. At least I think it's PEG, that a closely related glycol.
 

DrBlaze

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Anyone that have tried it? How to do it in a smart way? Would it be possible to attack LED straight to copper pipes with heat transfer tape or some kind of glue?
There's a video, I think somewhere in the middle of the "post your diy pics" thread, where someone uses square aluminum pipes and mounts cobs directly to that, and using 55 gallon drums to cool the water. It was a fairly big system iirc.

edit- not the same as the above post^^, These were longer pipes with no electronics, fans etc..
 

Bolof

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Possible with copper, yes. Doubt I would advise it though.

If you want to DIY theres a nice thread around here on making your own light bars out of rectangular aluminum tubing. Much cheaper and easier to work with.

Otherwise I would just go the CPU water block route. This is easy as pretty much everything is "plug and play".

The real question is whether or not your situation would really benefit from water cooling over a more traditional route?
I am thinking copper only because most water pipes in the store is copper.

The reason I want water cooling. 1. I want a sealed room = no heat exhaust. 2. AC need too much electricity. 3. Cold winter here. Will be easy to cool water. 4. No heat signature did flar.
 

Bolof

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I would also recommend using PEG instead of water. It won't make steam or anything due to high boiling point. That's what they use in industrial building heating systems. Don't know if it conducts electricity, probably not. At least I think it's PEG, that a closely related glycol.
Steam will not be a problem. Water temp. Should be about 25 degree Celsius. With controlled system and water reservoir.
 

BobCajun

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Steam will not be a problem. Water temp. Should be about 25 degree Celsius. With controlled system and water reservoir.
Yeah I guess you're right, no pressure would ever build up at those temps why why buy PEG when plain old water will do. Good luck with it, however you end up designing it.
 

Shugglet

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Keeping your room temp controlled in the summer might be an issue if you don't plan on using any ac and are keeping it sealed.

Other than that though, seems like most everything else could be implemented with adequate funding and planning.
 

Bolof

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Keeping your room temp controlled in the summer might be an issue if you don't plan on using any ac and are keeping it sealed.

Other than that though, seems like most everything else could be implemented with adequate funding and planning.
Yes, exactly. I will probably use some AC in summer + grow less in summer. Makes sense and look good for seasonal power usage. I can heat house with no cost in winter and have a good excuse to high power usage = will say heat house with electricity.
 

wietefras

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I created this "steam punk" fixture:
SteamPunk_Leaktest.jpg

I soldered 3mm thick copper plates onto copper pipes and attached the COBs to the copper plates.

I think I'm going to try again with a single pipe bent into an S-shape instead.
 

Bolof

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I created this "steam punk" fixture:
View attachment 3834744

I soldered 3mm thick copper plates onto copper pipes and attached the COBs to the copper plates.

I think I'm going to try again with a single pipe bent into an S-shape instead.
That is great. Its kind of how I was thinking from beginning. Cooper pipe is standard for water. But I plan to use more LED and longer pipes.
 
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