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Green Cross

Green Cross

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I still can't get over that cola that's pushing all the new grow, and toppling over from the weight.

Here's a couple pics of the area I cut back - a few weeks ago - after she burned herself on the light.




Here's the other side of same bud, pushing tons of new flowers


The weight bending the entire plant over.


This is fucking incredible... and no comments? :roll:

2 clones (daydream indica) were transplanted, and moved into flowering along side the mature BMS.

These are 10" - 11" pots, but should be fine for this compact strain.

I've been LSTing the taller growth, but most this bushiness was caused because these clones were taken in flower (a mistake because genetic degradation takes place).




Here are some better shots of the other clones, which will be put into flower next week, or whenever the BMS is finished.

Gigabud will be harvested in a couple more hours, after spending 72 hours in darkness. RIU's BrickTop (another veteran) who's advice and experience I respect, has convinced me that this is worth a shot. Trichomes are the plants sun screen, so harvesting in the morning is better (because light degrades THC), so it makes logical sense that the trichs would plump to thier fullest in the dark. I'm still sceptical, but hopeful.

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canefan

canefan

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Cross that is looking mighty good, congrats on the great grow and your clones are looking great. Hope to update my journal today, it has been a nightmare week here....once again congrats.
 
Green Cross

Green Cross

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diggitydank420 said:
I usually hate it when people quote photographs... but this one is deserving!

Almost eighteen inches of solid nug!!!

:hump::hump::hump:

:clap::clap::clap:

Thanks diggity

"18" of solid nug" LOL

+rep to you, my friend!kiss-ass
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mike420mtz said:
how much did you yeild?
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I bet it weighs over an oz once it's dry.

canefan said:
Cross that is looking mighty good, congrats on the great grow and your clones are looking great. Hope to update my journal today, it has been a nightmare week here....once again congrats.
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Glad to see you canefan, was starting to worry, wondering what happened to you, when I didn't see your journal updated. :leaf: The clones I transplanted look a little droopy, because they were bone dry (and wilted) when I did the transplant, but they'll snap right back. I gotta get the rest of the girls transplanted ASAP before they get pot bound. Thanks again

pot scott said:
Damn! massive grinch finger! +rep
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"grinch finger"! lmao you guys are killing me! :lol:

Anyone know if it's worth the extra money for those super HPS bulbs, compared to the cheapo ones? I'll only be using HPS in flower (week 2-3 till finish). eye hortilux are like $100!, and the regular ones are only $25
 
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!8 inch bud is sick, were did you get the G13 from is it pure or a cross breed. To be honest I have many many questions and the test your doing here will greatly weight on my future grow. I have to wait for your final report to get a lot of questions answered.
 
Green Cross

Green Cross

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newbieneedshelp said:
!8 inch bud is sick, were did you get the G13 from is it pure or a cross breed. To be honest I have many many questions and the test your doing here will greatly weight on my future grow. I have to wait for your final report to get a lot of questions answered.
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good morning newbieneedshelp

As far as I can tell gigabud is no longer available, but I did find the description:
G13 Labs Gigabud Feminized

Variety: Indica / Sativa Mix
Harvest Date: September/October
Flowering Period: 5-6 weeks
THC Content: 15%
No. of seeds Per Packet: 5 feminized
Characteristics: Monster buds. G13 Labs Gigabud has compact monster buds covered with fat, thick resin. Gigabud is fast flowering, compact and is easy to manicure making this an ideal variety for the indoors. Gigabud is compact but can reach 1.5m if left unattended. These gigantic buds have a deep green color, are super heavy and dense with a rich, with a aromatic sweet hash flavour. Gigabud has a long lasting body mainly indica-type feel

I don't like to give specifics about where I got what, and when... but I can say, in my opinion, attitude seed co is the greatest, and worth every dime. lol

I'm not so impressed with G13 genetics, after growing out a male, from their feminized quicksilver strain, and they claim this plant is fast flowering 5-6 week which is a bold-faced-lie.

I've never seen results like this from gigabud (in other grows), but using CMH caused less stretch, and the training - lollipopping - forced all the plants energy into this top cola. The buds aren't really massive as they claim, but I am impressed with the cola structure. Note" buds are flower clusters. Colas are tops, bud clusters, which tend to grow/weave themselves together.


Note: Lollipopping is stripping the unproductive lower growth. I did this in in early flower (@ 2 and 4 weeks) if memory serves...

It was an easy plant to grow, and easy to clone, but I may let this strain go after I flower the 2 clones... or maybe I'll cross it with BMS just to see that comes of it (gigashine). :weed:

Update:
Blue moonshine - still not showing much amber, and no male flowers to be found, yet...

The transplanted clones are already thriving, and I'm ready to move a couple more into flower.

I saved what's left of sativa mother, and she's on stand-bye in the crisper drawer of my fridge, until reveg. :mrgreen: I know I said I'd never re-veg another plant, but this strain is something special (possibly super lemon haze), and none of her clones survived. :leaf:
 
canefan

canefan

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Green Cross said:
good morning newbieneedshelp

As far as I can tell gigabud is no longer available, but I did find the description:
G13 Labs Gigabud Feminized

Variety: Indica / Sativa Mix
Harvest Date: September/October
Flowering Period: 5-6 weeks
THC Content: 15%
No. of seeds Per Packet: 5 feminized
Characteristics: Monster buds. G13 Labs Gigabud has compact monster buds covered with fat, thick resin. Gigabud is fast flowering, compact and is easy to manicure making this an ideal variety for the indoors. Gigabud is compact but can reach 1.5m if left unattended. These gigantic buds have a deep green color, are super heavy and dense with a rich, with a aromatic sweet hash flavour. Gigabud has a long lasting body mainly indica-type feel

I don't like to give specifics about where I got what, and when... but I can say, in my opinion, attitude seed co is the greatest, and worth every dime. lol

I'm not so impressed with G13 genetics, after growing out a male, from their feminized quicksilver strain, and they claim this plant is fast flowering 5-6 week which is a bold-faced-lie.

I've never seen results like this from gigabud (in other grows), but using CMH caused less stretch, and the training - lollipopping - forced all the plants energy into this top cola. The buds aren't really massive as they claim, but I am impressed with the cola structure. Note" buds are flower clusters. Colas are tops, bud clusters, which tend to grow/weave themselves together.
Note: Lollipopping is stripping the unproductive lower growth. I did this in in early flower (@ 2 and 4 weeks) if memory serves...

It was an easy plant to grow, and easy to clone, but I may let this strain go after I flower the 2 clones... or maybe I'll cross it with BMS just to see that comes of it (gigashine). :weed:

Update:
Blue moonshine - still not showing much amber, and no male flowers to be found, yet...

The transplanted clones are already thriving, and I'm ready to move a couple more into flower.

I saved what's left of sativa mother, and she's on stand-bye in the crisper drawer of my fridge, until reveg. :mrgreen: I know I said I'd never re-veg another plant, but this strain is something special (possibly super lemon haze), and none of her clones survived. :leaf:
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Top of the morning Cross, everything is coming along nicely I see. My clones are doing well also, I still love the way they reveg....lol. I put one clone outside last week, but the others I am giving another week in the room. The el monstre I'm having problem with her clones also. Keep it up.bongsmilie
 
Your Grandfather

Your Grandfather

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Green Cross said:
I've been LSTing the taller growth, but most this bushiness was caused because these clones were taken in flower (a mistake because genetic degradation takes place).:peace:
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Nice journal, very nice.

However, I have to disagree with you regarding genetic degradation being caused by the taking of clones when the plant is in flower as opposed to veg. My experience is that it just takes a shit pot of time to get them back into full on veg mode.

IMHO, the genetics are set in stone, unless a modifier is applied over time- as in having a strain which has been grown in one geographic environment (eg. Southern Africa and then grown in Northern Cali) and then grown in the new environment.

I'm fairly confident that over a period of time, the dna of the plant will adapt to it's new environment.

*Of course, this is my opinion and I could be wrong :) :peace:
 
Green Cross

Green Cross

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Your Grandfather said:
Nice journal, very nice.

However, I have to disagree with you regarding genetic degradation being caused by the taking of clones when the plant is in flower as opposed to veg. My experience is that it just takes a shit pot of time to get them back into full on veg mode.

IMHO, the genetics are set in stone, unless a modifier is applied over time- as in having a strain which has been grown in one geographic environment (eg. Southern Africa and then grown in Northern Cali) and then grown in the new environment.

I'm fairly confident that over a period of time, the dna of the plant will adapt to it's new environment.

*Of course, this is my opinion and I could be wrong :) :peace:
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So you have you opinion and a little experience, and you believe that can change the wealth scientific research that has been done on this subject? Stress causes genetic degradation. It's a fact. you may want to go back and read what I posted on the subject, if you don't believe the facts.
 
Green Cross

Green Cross

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canefan said:
Top of the morning Cross, everything is coming along nicely I see. My clones are doing well also, I still love the way they reveg....lol. I put one clone outside last week, but the others I am giving another week in the room. The el monstre I'm having problem with her clones also. Keep it up.bongsmilie
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fishindog said:
Awesome man +rep
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Green Cross said:
So you have you opinion and a little experience, and you believe that can change the wealth scientific research that has been done on this subject? Stress causes genetic degradation. It's a fact. you may want to go back and read what I posted on the subject, if you don't believe the facts.
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Thanks guys,

I sampled the gigabud lest night, and I was really surprised by the quality! bongsmilie I didn't expect much from this plant, but it tastes very nice, and it's quite potent- and this off the lowest (least potent) buds harvested.

I'll give a proper smoke report once I put a cure on it.

Hey Cane, I'm finally taking your lead/advice... I picked up 100lbs of composted cow manure. It's moo-nure (2-2-2). I'm about to check the PH on it right now. I'll be mixing it with my soilless mix, and probably adding perlite, rainbow boom, and lime, making some super soil. :bigjoint:
 
tahoe58

tahoe58

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great friggin work man .... thanks for the updates. good to hear the bud is a satifying smoke .... Walk on!!~~

The weight bending the entire plant over.


This is fucking incredible... and no comments? :roll:
 
Your Grandfather

Your Grandfather

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Green Cross said:
So you have you opinion and a little experience, and you believe that can change the wealth scientific research that has been done on this subject? Stress causes genetic degradation. It's a fact. you may want to go back and read what I posted on the subject, if you don't believe the facts.
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Got anything from the wealth of scientific info you can direct me to? I'm open to expanding my base of knowledge.

Sorry for the hijack Tahoe:eyesmoke:
 
tahoe58

tahoe58

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no worries ... open discussuon uis what its all about .....and anyhooo ain't my thread ... apologies to GC .... makes me think of GreenCrack .... got find some greencrack seeds .... hahahaha!
 
Dayzt

Dayzt

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Hey Green Cross.... very impressive grow!! I was wondering if you could go into some more detail on your drying 'box' for me (pics of it from back on the 17th). I think I need to do something like that on my next harvest.... Did you do all the trimming while they were laying on the wires like that? The last time I trimmed, we had them all layed out on my kitchen island and it was a bitch to clean the damn resin off the counter-top after we were done..lol.... I also hung the trimmed branches from my shower-curtain rod and left them there in the dark for a week... does it really dry that much better in a box like that?

Explain how you setup that box and why there's foil lining the bottom.

Thanks in advance - I hope my girlz turn out like yours... =) Check out my latest grow: https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/246834-bagseed-barneys-blue-cheese.html

Cheerz! :leaf:
 
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newbieneedshelp

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Cross where you sitting on the cure for all buds. I bet the wait has got to be killing you. Oh by the way I read some shitty ass article from a IL paper trying to stop medical marijuana in the state. This is a direct quote Marijuana will turn everyone who smokes it into a total physco and make them addicted to the drug. I orginal add the article saved for you but then decide to del bc it would of just pissed you off.
 
Green Cross

Green Cross

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Wow this thread is gaining steam! lol

Your Grandfather said:
Got anything from the wealth of scientific info you can direct me to? I'm open to expanding my base of knowledge.
Sorry for the hijack Tahoe:eyesmoke:
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Hijack? shit I must have missed a post. :mrgreen:

Sure Grandfather, it's back on one of the previous pages... I'll be happy to find it. I believe it was wikipedia, quoting Jorge Cervantes Marijuana Horticulture. I'll find it and edit the post here in a few minutes

Here's part of what I found, but also found a french study that confirmed this info:
This from Marijuana Cultivation/Cloning - Wikibooks:
"Basically you clone when you want to be able to replicate the exact genetic characteristics of a plant. If you have found not only a good strain but a particularly fine specimen you can share it by cloning. Or you can keep the fine plant in the vegetative stage forever and only grow out and mature cuttings of it. Not only do you have a plant with known properties such as potency, potential yield, disease resistance, size, etc but you will be able to have a garden of plants that given the same conditions will more or less grow at the same rate and respond to the same way to different training methods. Your plants will all have the same nutrient requirements as well.
Cloning is also an ideal way to determine the sex and properties of potential mother plants without every having them undergo the stress of flowering. This is much better than taking a cutting during flowering or putting a flowering plant back under a longer light cycle to revert it back to vegetative growth. Stress can alter or damage genetic material and that genetic change will be passed to the cuttings taken from the mother after that point."
"Generational Cloning
This is the chance to squash another myth. To cut to the chase, a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone can be taken for at least several hundred generations out without any negative effects to the plant. In fact, replacing your mother with a fresh clone from healthy tissue often will mean less genetic damage due to stress and aging over the life of the plant."


tahoe58 said:
no worries ... open discussuon uis what its all about .....and anyhooo ain't my thread ... apologies to GC .... makes me think of GreenCrack .... got find some greencrack seeds .... hahahaha!
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Green Crack works :mrgreen: and thanks again for your enhanced HPS tip. :joint:

Dayzt said:
Hey Green Cross.... very impressive grow!! I was wondering if you could go into some more detail on your drying 'box' for me (pics of it from back on the 17th). I think I need to do something like that on my next harvest.... Did you do all the trimming while they were laying on the wires like that? The last time I trimmed, we had them all layed out on my kitchen island and it was a bitch to clean the damn resin off the counter-top after we were done..lol.... I also hung the trimmed branches from my shower-curtain rod and left them there in the dark for a week... does it really dry that much better in a box like that?

Explain how you setup that box and why there's foil lining the bottom.

Thanks in advance - I hope my girlz turn out like yours... =) Check out my latest grow: https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/246834-bagseed-barneys-blue-cheese.html
Cheerz! :leaf:
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I bet it was "a bitch to clean the damn resin off the counter-top" lol

What I did was just weave that wire back and forth through the cardboard box, and yes I laid the tops there for trimming (one plant at a time. It worked really well, but OMG the smell was so pungent having it all in one pile like that, and trimming at the same time.

Oh yeah, I removed all the fan leaves - using mostly gloved fingers - leaving only the tiny leaves - and then did a final trim 3-4 days later (with a scissors). Then I moved them to a paper bag (layering them 3" deep and turning them daily) for another 2-3 days, then to the jars.

The tinfoil is just a clean surface to catch any trichs or hairs that fall off. It's not really needed. IMO

newbieneedshelp said:
Cross where you sitting on the cure for all buds. I bet the wait has got to be killing you. Oh by the way I read some shitty ass article from a IL paper trying to stop medical marijuana in the state. This is a direct quote Marijuana will turn everyone who smokes it into a total physco and make them addicted to the drug. I orginal add the article saved for you but then decide to del bc it would of just pissed you off.
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The indica didn't need much a cure, so most of it has been smoked, even though it was so sticky that it was impossible to roll a joint without tearing some papers lol :bigjoint: The sativa has a decent cure on it, and the gigabud goes into a jar today. By the time it gets jarred it's smokable, but only gets better with age. Some connoisseurs age for a year, so I may need to vacuum seal a couple bags for 2010 lol

I've seen the dissenters, but I can't get too pissed, because they're just uneducated in the matter, or they've been brainwashed to believe all drugs are bad, by the propaganda campaign, left over from the drug war of the 1980's. I'm still hopeful we'll see passage, within a few months, but now that I've seen all the good this medicine can do, I intend to do all I can to help sick people obtain their medication. :peace:

And finally a little curing tip:
Once the buds seem pretty dry, but the stems are still wet, I move them into a paper bag, or a box like this for continued slow drying - for 2-3 more days - before going into the jars for curing. This keeps the buds from getting crispy dry.
 
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