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Green Cross

Green Cross

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I finally picked up 100lbs of composted manure, checked the PH, added pearlite, and lime, and screened it.

Moo-nure brand - 25 lbs - $4


My $7 Soil PH test kit says it's already around 6.7 (PH neutral) which is fine, but I layered a few TBLS of dolomite lime in for good measure, because I like my soil PH between 6.7 and 7.2 -and fertilization tends to lower PH, and by adding a little lime it helps keep the PH stable, and also adds calcium.


I used some hardware cloth and a Rubbermaid to accomplish the screening process. It helps to use a plastic trowel, or something to scrape the soil though the screen. It was pretty clean - only found a few sticks and stones per 25 lbs.


When I transplant I'll just add this to my soilless mix (peat/coco/aged pine bark/vermiculite/pearlite/worm casings/lime) and a few scoops of this to the bottom half of the container. Then I'll top that with 1 or 2 TBLS of rainbow mix (grow or bloom depending...). Then I'll cover this with more soilless mix, so there's no root burn. bongsmilie
 
Green Cross

Green Cross

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It seems like it's been 90 days, but it will only be 84 tomorrow. :roll:

I'll like to pull a couple of these this weekend, but not unless I see some amber trichs!

I do see new flowers pushing on this one, so there's no rush...




Plenty of Purple




An old man reclining :)






 
canefan

canefan

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Green Cross said:
It seems like it's been 90 days, but it will only be 84 tomorrow. :roll:

I'll like to pull a couple of these this weekend, but not unless I see some amber trichs!

I do see new flowers pushing on this one, so there's no rush...




Plenty of Purple




An old man reclining :)






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Wow Cross I looked at these pics and had to load a bowl. That girl is looking delicious. I am happy to see you using the cow manure I think that you will see a difference in your plants. Don't forget the molasses when you water now, I believe this is the real key to getting the full benefits of the cow manure, this will help breakdown the manure and make it more readily available to the plant. Once again the grow is just looking sooo good.bongsmilie
 
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newbieneedshelp

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Cross do you know the weight yet? I need an oz for each month so if I grow 5 plants Im going for an oz each plant. I think im going with green thumb mix 2 mix packs 1 indciia and 1 sativa. I will then grow the indicia first bc of short flowering time and then have that smoke and let the sativa grow and repeat. I will the take clones of my fav plants
 
Green Cross

Green Cross

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canefan said:
Wow Cross I looked at these pics and had to load a bowl. That girl is looking delicious. I am happy to see you using the cow manure I think that you will see a difference in your plants. Don't forget the molasses when you water now, I believe this is the real key to getting the full benefits of the cow manure, this will help breakdown the manure and make it more readily available to the plant. Once again the grow is just looking sooo good.bongsmilie
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Hi there Canefan, great advice on using molasses - to help feed the microbes. I should have used some today, when I transplanted one of the BMS (s-clone). It crossed my mind, but then I left out the molasses. Next time for sure! Thanks for the comments. I'm finally seeing some amber, and almost chopped 3 of them, but then I stopped myself. lol After waiting this long I think I can wait a few more days, for full ripeness. I did knock a tiny bud off this morning, and hopefully it will be dry enough to sample this evening bongsmilie

tahoe58 said:
sticky icky goodness ... wonderful pics and the plants speaks for herself ... great update!!

Thanks Tahoe

I'm finally seeing some amber. It won't be long now! This stuff smells like blueberry syrup, it will be a pleasure to cure. :weed:

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newbieneedshelp said:
Cross do you know the weight yet? I need an oz for each month so if I grow 5 plants Im going for an oz each plant. I think im going with green thumb mix 2 mix packs 1 indciia and 1 sativa. I will then grow the indicia first bc of short flowering time and then have that smoke and let the sativa grow and repeat. I will the take clones of my fav plants
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About an oz per plant to as much as 1 gram per watt; the bag-seed doesn't yield like the hybrid strains do, and I think the CMH lamps don't yield like HPS in flower, but the quality is probably better. The BMS buds are dense and rock hard, so I expect more off those, even using ceramic metal halide throughout. Have you decided on your setup? :peace:
 
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chitownsmoking

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its always good to see people from illinois doing there thing! that foxtailing purple sativa looks fucking great
 
Green Cross

Green Cross

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tahoe58 said:
and its nice to see people taking the necessary time to allow the plant to reach a more full maturity ... I love them horns ... :twisted: :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:
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chitownsmoking said:
i agree tahoe timming is everything along with patiance
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thanks for stopping by dudes :joint: The horns are pretty cool huh :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I checked them this morning and they're done! 1/3 amber, 1/3 cloudy, 1/3 clear (tricomes), and the soil is very dry. :mrgreen:

4 are coming down and being placed in total darkness (16 - 72hrs depending...)

1 still has a few days to go, so she'll get wattered 1 more time.

And the last one (the purple pheno) is going to be left to push male flowers (for pollen). I figure I'll harvest her cola and most her buds tomorow, and then just lay her on her side until she throws - just in time to pollinate my #3 pheno.
I feel like a kid before christmas day lol :mrgreen:




Comments welcome :peace:

Oh I almost forgot! I was able to finally sample a tiny bud off this stuff last night, and holy shit! It had no cure on it, but after only 2 bong hits and I was thoroughly fucked up until bed time. :eyesmoke: It's a very narcotic stone. I wish we could all share a doob! :peace:
 
tahoe58

tahoe58

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muy excellente senor .... the horns are friggin fabulous .... I like the cured buds with the horns even better .... !!! Harvest on!~~~~~
 
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newbieneedshelp

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Cross,
I have a lot of my setup. I will be going 5 place 3 inch net bubble bucket. 400W HPS set up. Grow tent 63h x 36 w 24 d. Two carbon filter with prebuilt fans. Will be using the Lucas formula for the hydro. Seeds I have some blueberry kush from a friend. It is a cross between original Blueberry and OG Kush. Then a 1 air king clip fan. I dont have the light I really wanted to do CMH and I was waiting on feedback from you. I honestly think your the only one out there doing a in depth review grow with them. I have to vent to the same room. I did order a 200w CFL 6500 bulb I think I will use for clones or veg. The light is were I get hung up. I would like to use CFL but I dont think I will get the needed yield. The seeds will be 2 5 pack mix pack from green thumb. So if I used a 400 w bulb that should theoretically give me 400 grams or 14 ounces. Does that seem correct? Do you have any advice on the set up, I would love to hear.
 
Green Cross

Green Cross

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newbieneedshelp said:
Cross,
I have a lot of my setup. I will be going 5 place 3 inch net bubble bucket. 400W HPS set up. Grow tent 63h x 36 w 24 d. Two carbon filter with prebuilt fans. Will be using the Lucas formula for the hydro. Seeds I have some blueberry kush from a friend. It is a cross between original Blueberry and OG Kush. Then a 1 air king clip fan. I dont have the light I really wanted to do CMH and I was waiting on feedback from you. I honestly think your the only one out there doing a in depth review grow with them. I have to vent to the same room. I did order a 200w CFL 6500 bulb I think I will use for clones or veg. The light is were I get hung up. I would like to use CFL but I dont think I will get the needed yield. The seeds will be 2 5 pack mix pack from green thumb. So if I used a 400 w bulb that should theoretically give me 400 grams or 14 ounces. Does that seem correct? Do you have any advice on the set up, I would love to hear.
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According to Jorge Cervantes - Marijuana Horticulture - a 1000w light yields a pound every 60 days, but that benchmark has diminishing returns when you start using lights that have less penetration... SCROG is probably the best way to get the more yield out of 400 watters, but I think 1 gram per watt is a target few will ever reach - even under 1000w lights. Shoot for half that under CFL and 400w HPS.

Most people exaggerate when it comes to yield. Maybe they include the dried stems lol... and the trim... but I didn't start this project with yield (weight) in mind. I set out to grow the best weed I've ever smoked, and more of it than I've ever seen, and I accomplished that.

If you use MH in veg and HPS in flower, and only grow strains that are known high yielder's, you'll see more yield, but most of us have financial/space restraints.

Even if HPS produces more than Philips CMH (4k) in the end, red light causes more stretch, and that's a problem when you're trying to grow weeds under a lights that only penetrate 24" (400w). And HPS also doesn't compare to the quality of MH (due mainly to the increased UV spectrum).

I think most people don't know Philips CMH (4k) is the best 250 - 400w veg lamp for the money, or they have an electronic ballast (which doesn't work with CMH), or maybe they only have $25 to spend on a bulb... then HPS throughout is the obvious choice, but it's not nearly as good as MH in veg and HPS in flower.

But CFL (5600k) in Veg and HPS (2100k) in flower does a pretty good job for the money.
 
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newbieneedshelp

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Green Cross said:
According to Jorge Cervantes - Marijuana Horticulture - a 1000w light yields a pound every 60 days, but that benchmark has diminishing returns when you start using lights that have less penetration... SCROG is probably the best way to get the more yield out of 400 watters, but I think 1 gram per watt is a target few will ever reach - even under 1000w lights. Shoot for half that under CFL and 400w HPS.

Most people exaggerate when it comes to yield. Maybe they include the dried stems lol... and the trim... but I didn't start this project with yield (weight) in mind. I set out to grow the best weed I've ever smoked, and more of it than I've ever seen, and I accomplished that.

If you use MH in veg and HPS in flower, and only grow strains that are known high yielder's, you'll see more yield, but most of us have financial/space restraints.

Even if HPS produces more than Philips CMH (4k) in the end, red light causes more stretch, and that's a problem when you're trying to grow weeds under a lights that only penetrate 24" (400w). And HPS also doesn't compare to the quality of MH (due mainly to the increased UV spectrum).

I think most people don't know Philips CMH (4k) is the best 250 - 400w veg lamp for the money, or they have an electronic ballast (which doesn't work with CMH), or maybe they only have $25 to spend on a bulb... then HPS throughout is the obvious choice, but it's not nearly as good as MH in veg and HPS in flower.

But CFL (5600k) in Veg and HPS (2100k) in flower does a pretty good job for the money.
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Yea im not wanting to sell any of it. I just want personal smoke. I think it is safer to grow then buy. I also think its silly to pay 400 a OZ a month, when I can grow it for a lot less. I rather do CMH from start to finish and that will probably be what I end up doing. I really need to just jump in and start the grow but I want everything planed down to the final details before I start.
 
Green Cross

Green Cross

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newbieneedshelp said:
Yea im not wanting to sell any of it. I just want personal smoke. I think it is safer to grow then buy. I also think its silly to pay 400 a OZ a month, when I can grow it for a lot less. I rather do CMH from start to finish and that will probably be what I end up doing. I really need to just jump in and start the grow but I want everything planed down to the final details before I start.
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Hey Newbiesneedshelp, I saw someone on the board yesterday complaining about their yield - only 10 grams per plant. 16 plants in bubblers, under a 400w HPS, hybrid strains. My guess is he probably harvested 6 weeks too early lol :mrgreen:

There's a guy who calls himself Dr Green (youtube his grow videos) and if I remember correctly he said he pulls 1/4 lb every 2 months. He uses T5's in veg and either a 400 or 600w, but that's a more realistic estimate, a 1/4 lb per 400w light

I'm having computer problems today, and posting from a piece of junk computer in another location, and I'm already missing my spellcheck... lol I'll check back tomorrow. :peace:
 
Green Cross

Green Cross

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If you remember, I harvested a couple lower buds of the gigabud plant, and left the rest of the plant to sit in darkness for 72 hours before final harvest?

Well after sampling both... I find no discernable difference in potency, between the samples taken before the 72 hours of darkness and the buds I harvested 3 days earlier.

Trichomes act as sunblock for the plants to protect from UV radiation and heat, so it does make sense to harvest before lights on - because light and heat also degrade the THC stored in the trichomes, but as far as I can tell, allowing the plants to sit in 72 hours of darkness - as a means of increasing potency (a rumored 30% increase) is nothing more than urban legend. :peace:
 
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quietlike

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This may be off topic, but I was referred to you by someone and had a question about clone stasis. I read this:
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/8933-clones-stasis.html
and can't get a clear idea. Im looking at the ziploc bag. Does it matter if the leaves are also submerged in water? I would think that the water in the bag would move around and there isnt any real way to ensure that the stems and not the leaves are submerged. so is it okay to have the whole clone submerged? I woudlnt think so, but I've been wrong many times.
 
Green Cross

Green Cross

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quietlike said:
This may be off topic, but I was referred to you by someone and had a question about clone stasis. I read this:
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/8933-clones-stasis.html
and can't get a clear idea. Im looking at the ziploc bag. Does it matter if the leaves are also submerged in water? I would think that the water in the bag would move around and there isnt any real way to ensure that the stems and not the leaves are submerged. so is it okay to have the whole clone submerged? I woudlnt think so, but I've been wrong many times.
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Hey there, no problem, this journal is open to all.

You want the top of the cuttings out of the water, and the lower couple inches under water. I was thinking of using a piece of styrofoam like a raft - at one end of a tupperware - to hold the top ends up
 
canefan

canefan

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Green Cross said:
Hey there, no problem, this journal is open to all.

You want the top of the cuttings out of the water, and the lower couple inches under water. I was thinking of using a piece of styrofoam like a raft - at one end of a tupperware - to hold the top ends up
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Hey there Cross glad to see you got that person handled on the clones. I saw your post thanks for helping him. Glad your harvest is proceeding so well. :mrgreen:bongsmilie
 
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