Week 8 flowering, possible nitrogen excess?

Monsterlobster

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Hello everyone, this is my 2nd grow but my first using coco.
My plant is now in week 8 flowering (from a bag seed) and seems like it's a sativa dominant.
Lights used:metal halide 400W and supplementing with 100W 3000K led bulbs).
Now, i think the bud development is lacking (read it maybe caused by excessive nitrogen) but i need an experienced eye to look and tell me if there's anything to be fixd.
 

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Trickyticky

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Plenty fox tailing going on . That's the problem with bag seeds . If ya don't know what it is , ya fucked . Looks OK to me . Also looks as though it's gonna produce ya some nice weed .
Thing with them sat Dom plants is they can take forever to Finnish , BUT the smoke and smells are amazing .
Good look .
What is your ec
 

Monsterlobster

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Plenty fox tailing going on . That's the problem with bag seeds . If ya don't know what it is , ya fucked . Looks OK to me . Also looks as though it's gonna produce ya some nice weed .
Thing with them sat Dom plants is they can take forever to Finnish , BUT the smoke and smells are amazing .
Good look .
What is your ec
Thanks alot.
For the fox tailing, i thought i was having a heat issue but their places is so random, it's probably genetics as you said.
My ec is around 1.4 i guess (700 ppm), do tou think it's having too much nitrogen? Maybe too leafy or too dark?
 

Trickyticky

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I would maybe drop down to 1.2 , those sativas can be a little fussy with their food . They don't take it like the indicas . Looks like ya have another 8 weeks to go
 

Monsterlobster

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I would maybe drop down to 1.2 , those sativas can be a little fussy with their food . They don't take it like the indicas . Looks like ya have another 8 weeks to go
Wow, 8 weeks!! Seems like i still have a long journey, thanks for fixing my expectations :D.
So drop the overall strength but keep the same ratios as it is?
 

Tracker

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What is the analysis on your nutrients, like what all is in them? Do they have a label that lists everything? Please post a pic. With the majority of pistils white and perky, the flowers have a good way to go yet.
 

Monsterlobster

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What is the analysis on your nutrients, like what all is in them? Do they have a label that lists everything? Please post a pic. With the majority of pistils white and perky, the flowers have a good way to go yet.
So these are the 3 solution, the recommend dose on the label for flowering is to add 1.5ml of solution B (high nitrogen) for every litre of water, which doesn't make any sense to me since it's the same recommended dose during vegetative phase.
 

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Jenko

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Hello everyone, this is my 2nd grow but my first using coco.
My plant is now in week 8 flowering (from a bag seed) and seems like it's a sativa dominant.
Lights used:metal halide 400W and supplementing with 100W 3000K led bulbs).
Now, i think the bud development is lacking (read it maybe caused by excessive nitrogen) but i need an experienced eye to look and tell me if there's anything to be fixd.
What wattage is your lights, i seen one that says 50 wts, does it bang out 50 from the socket?
 

Tracker

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So these are the 3 solution, the recommend dose on the label for flowering is to add 1.5ml of solution B (high nitrogen) for every litre of water, which doesn't make any sense to me since it's the same recommended dose during vegetative phase.
Are there feeding schedule instructions on the backs of the bottles? Please send pics of the backs of labels.
 

70's natureboy

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They are nice and green but I don't see any toxicity. I think 400MH is marginal for good tight buds. It is bag seed after all so I think you did as good as can be expected. They may swell and tighten up in the next couple weeks. I'd say you can back off the nutes slightly but not too much, maybe 10-20%.
 

Monsterlobster

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They are nice and green but I don't see any toxicity. I think 400MH is marginal for good tight buds. It is bag seed after all so I think you did as good as can be expected. They may swell and tighten up in the next couple weeks. I'd say you can back off the nutes slightly but not too much, maybe 10-20%.
Yes, I've read the MH isn't so good for adding density, that's why i gave these 2 50W a shot,Maybe they'll help a bit.
 

Tracker

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Sorry they're not in English so i added with a translation
Green is solution A (2-1-6)
Red is solution B (5-0-1) this one has the trace elements
Yellow is solution C (0-5-4)
The ratios of N-P-K relative to each other is important. If you're doing the 3/1.5/2 schedule right now, then you're ratios look like 3x(0-5-4) + 1.5x(5-0-1) + 2x(2-1-6) --> (11.5-17-25.5)/(6.5 parts) = 1.77-2.62-3.92 per part.
 

Monsterlobster

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The ratios of N-P-K relative to each other is important. If you're doing the 3/1.5/2 schedule right now, then you're ratios look like 3x(0-5-4) + 1.5x(5-0-1) + 2x(2-1-6) --> (11.5-17-25.5)/(6.5 parts) = 1.77-2.62-3.92 per part.
Thanks tracker for your helpful replies. Should i keep it that way? And at the end of flowering, how how you advise to reduce my nitrogen without messing up with the ratios?
 

Tracker

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Thanks tracker for your helpful replies. Should i keep it that way? And at the end of flowering, how how you advise to reduce my nitrogen without messing up with the ratios?
I'm not an expert at plant science. I just know that I've read/heard many times that N should be higher in veg, and the nutes should transition to lower N with higher P-K through bloom (and I notice my plants respond to these changes). For my own stuff, I go by the manufacturers recommendations on the nutes I'm using. I'm currently using GH Flora series, which is a three part nutrient like yours. The ratios on the bottle for flowering work out to 2-2.6-3.3. Sometimes I use supplements that increase the P and K, but I only use that sparingly for a slight bump up. I tend to feed a little lighter (75% to 90% strength) than the recommended schedule, and I do feed-feed-water-repeat usually two to three days between applications. I used to pay much more attention to ppm, especially in hydro, but I'm more lazy about it now in soil. Your plant looks healthy. If it were me, I'd just keep doing what you're doing.
 
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