Weird leaf discoloration. Please help!

W

whymedeisgns

Active Member
I mean don't go insane cutting things.

Trimming affects the way a plant will grow quite a bit. But i cna say that it's always beneficial to remove lower fan leaves that aren't seeing any light, anything with less than 5 leaflets is pretty useless in the long run (they should all have odd numbers of leaves, and increase the amount in their new growth as it matures. Early leaves won't matter.

I clip old unnecessary growth to help fight parasites and molds because if they aren't getting much light they can wilt and they can rot. My plant also seems to respond well to having the unnecessary removed.
 
Number216

Number216

Active Member
Hmm, well the lower leaves some are 5 leaflets, but some of them only have 3. I have heard that cutting of the tip off leaves stops leaf growth but the plant retains the leaf so it can still use it for photosynthesis. But youre right about them barely getting light. Even though they way my lights are set up the majority of the plant gets decent light. Only a few leaves at the bottom part get little light.
 
W

whymedeisgns

Active Member
well. Just based on how you've described these leaves. I would suggest cutting them off. If they are little 5 leaflets their budsites are going to be very immature and arguably worthless.

Plants are designed to defoliate a little bit, remember that, I clean infections, i don't just apply antibiotic. I look at this the same sort of way.
 
Ninjabowler

Ninjabowler

Well-Known Member
Number216 said:
I need to invest in something to measure PPM. Right now I am just using the scoop measurement method xD. Just put in 2 scoops on a gallon of water. That is supposed to be the full dose. Btw, I kinda water them with the nute water every time I water them. I have yet to see a single side of nute burn. Do you think I should do regular waterings in between feedings anyways?
Click to expand...
Thats supposed to be a full dose for what stage of the plants development?
You dont need to water and feed everyday unless your in hydro. You can skip food no prob as long as you are confident what ppms your giving them. I had a friend thats been through two grows and he just borrowed my ppm meter for a day and found out hes been feeding 400 ppm all this time and he wonders why his plants keep turning yellow during flower.
I dont think theres anything majorly wrong with your plants. The colors dont look like damage.
I wouldnt start doing wierd things to it yet, no peroxide or whatever.
I might check ph of runoff to see if its way out but if its not major i wouldnt even adjust it.
if theres a problem it would be crying and it looks happy. IMPO :)
 
Ninjabowler

Ninjabowler

Well-Known Member
Number216 said:
Will do, man. Today I fed them the full dose. I will be monitoring her closely this week for any signs of nute burn. Since you guys have been so nice, here are some pics of the lady :)
View attachment 2470518View attachment 2470520View attachment 2470522
Click to expand...
those things look fine, i think they look great. Your powder fertilizer mix seems a bit low on the K, potasium to me?? Especially if your watering it down.
Ppm meter, amazon, the blue stick one with a hold button by hanna i think? 19 bucks w shipping, its worked for me for three months no calibration and my tap water still reads the same.
the roots dont grow much in late flower sooooo hmmm.
id get the ppm meter and ride it out, looks fine, dont screw it up.
 
Number216

Number216

Active Member
Ninjabowler said:
Thats supposed to be a full dose for what stage of the plants development?
You dont need to water and feed everyday unless your in hydro. You can skip food no prob as long as you are confident what ppms your giving them. I had a friend thats been through two grows and he just borrowed my ppm meter for a day and found out hes been feeding 400 ppm all this time and he wonders why his plants keep turning yellow during flower.
I dont think theres anything majorly wrong with your plants. The colors dont look like damage.
I wouldnt start doing wierd things to it yet, no peroxide or whatever.
I might check ph of runoff to see if its way out but if its not major i wouldnt even adjust it.
if theres a problem it would be crying and it looks happy. IMPO :)
Click to expand...
These are flowering stage "Bloom" nutrients. As for the PH, the lights go on in about 20 minutes. I will use my soil PH meter then and see if I can get a good reading. I have been applying water with dissolved epsom salts on the plants via spray bottle and no signs of improvement so I am thinking either I am giving them too little epsom salt or there is some sort of nute lockout regarding MG or sulfur. But like I have said before, the plants seem to be thriving apart from the discoloration. There has been no yellowing of leaves so far too, so the more I think about it, the more conflicted I am as to whether to keep trying stuff out to correct the discoloration or to just ler her be. I dont want to overgarden and end up hurting her this close to the finish line.

Now regarding the leaf clipping, I attached a picture of the entire plant. If you look at the bottom, you can see where I clipped the lower leaves. There are a couple more 3-leaflet leaves around there, but since there are no visible calyxes in that area, I am debating whether to clip those too or to just leave them alone. I have kinda heard mixed reviews on the whole clipping the tips off the leaves thing.
 

Attachments

Number216

Number216

Active Member
UPDATE: PH meter's reading fluctuates between 5.5 and 5.8. I wish I had a better and more accurate meter, but at least it gives me an idea. I am gonna try to water her with clean water a few times. Maybe I have some salt buildup. This is so frustrating xD
 
Ninjabowler

Ninjabowler

Well-Known Member
Number216 said:
UPDATE: PH meter's reading fluctuates between 5.5 and 5.8. I wish I had a better and more accurate meter, but at least it gives me an idea. I am gonna try to water her with clean water a few times. Maybe I have some salt buildup. This is so frustrating xD
Click to expand...
How old is it?? Salt build up after a month and a half??? She doesnt even look to be suffering, she looks fine. Your parinoid lol

I dont actually measure PPM. Dont have the equipment or the money for it. But right now I am feeding them slightly diluted 12-55-8 ferts.

Uncle Ben says to stick to something close to 2-1-3 ratio (i.e. 6-3-9 or 12-6-18 ) for veg and a 1-2-3 ratio (for example 3-6-9 or even 6-12-18 ) for flowering when adding nutes to soil. I would only use bloom boosters once or twice after the two week transition and that's it. I think it's pointless to use bloom booster at every feeding after the flower sites are established. Too much P will lock out N so it's advisable to just stay with real low numbers if you're not really sure.
^^^
this was copied and pasted from another riu post, its second hand stolen and reposted here but it sounds....hmm...kinda relevant dontcha think? You have alot of P but i dont think that its locked out the N right?
i also think it looks like mag def., thats what you thought right? so im wondering why you havent gone and gotten some calmag for 20 bucks? Its pretty much a staple. It needs it to the root zone if anywhere. Not to the leaves. If your deficient youll need to get alot of it in there, the leaves just arent the gate id be going through.

Also it wouldnt hurt to get some good nutes, that could be the reason also. The plant isnt that bad, but watch for mag issues.
 
Number216

Number216

Active Member
Yeah maybe youre right I am just being paranoid. Tommorow I will go to home depot and check out what nutes they have over there. Lol I literally just got back from there too. I was checking if they had molasses and no luck. Also I am pretty sure I dont have K deficiency. The leaves have shown that discoloration pattern pretty much since they were in veg. It does not seem to affect its growth at all since she basically tripled in size in the first 2 weeks of flowering and the bud sites are looking nice with lots of new growth every day.
 
Ninjabowler

Ninjabowler

Well-Known Member
Number216 said:
Yeah maybe youre right I am just being paranoid. Tommorow I will go to home depot and check out what nutes they have over there. Lol I literally just got back from there too. I was checking if they had molasses and no luck. Also I am pretty sure I dont have K deficiency. The leaves have shown that discoloration pattern pretty much since they were in veg. It does not seem to affect its growth at all since she basically tripled in size in the first 2 weeks of flowering and the bud sites are looking nice with lots of new growth every day.
Click to expand...
So i take it that you dont have any hydro stores around to buy quality nutes. You could try amazon.com if theyll ship that far. Get calmag too. its a staple in thier diet. You want a good quality food for best results. Do some googling. Ive heard bad stories about miracle grow yields. Dont listen to anyone at home depot. Post a thread with your nutrient contents in the title and take a pic of the bottle or jug and ask for opinions.

when i look at the deficency chart it looks mostly like the early Mag def. but theres also a reason nutrient companies and uncle ben recommend higher K in flower. Bigger buds.
 
Number216

Number216

Active Member
Hmmm, well I know they are retards at home depot. Last time they told me to use incandescents as grow lights. I told him I might as well invest my money in a grave for my plants xD Tonight, I will do some research on plant food and I will post what I buy tommorow. And I know to stay away from Miracle Grow. Quick question though. What does calmag do?
 
W

whymedeisgns

Active Member
calmag is calcium magnesium suppliment. Calmag+ has iron also.

If you have hard water in your area you may not need as much cal mag as soemone who doesn't. I don't need the stuff, but alot of people do.
 
W

whymedeisgns

Active Member
Home depot doesn't have perilite? i have a very hard time believing that. It's in their potting soils, near their nutrients.
 
Number216

Number216

Active Member
Yeah, they dont have shit. Just to let you know how shitty their selection is. The BEST soil they have is Scotts Premium Potting Soil. Even though theres another home depot a bit farther away that does carry it. I will check there.
 
Ninjabowler

Ninjabowler

Well-Known Member
Number216 said:
Hmmm, well I know they are retards at home depot. Last time they told me to use incandescents as grow lights. I told him I might as well invest my money in a grave for my plants xD Tonight, I will do some research on plant food and I will post what I buy tommorow. And I know to stay away from Miracle Grow. Quick question though. What does calmag do?
Click to expand...
Rep for grabbin good nutes so fast. Youll use more of the bloom nutes than the grow ones. Like twice as much for larger plants when you switchem after a couple months. Hardly any grow nutes for smaller plants because you dont need all the ppms when you swithchem early.
Cal mag is micro nutrients your plant needs. Cannabis esp. Its in your water if its city water...well maybe not in yours puerto rico lol but if your using RO your taking it all out. I use city water and still add it along with everyone i know at one drop per *litre* for this stuff...
image.jpg
Ps. If your in bloom just get bloom nutes for now:)
 
Ninjabowler

Ninjabowler

Well-Known Member
If you order this id put in like four times the amount for a couple feedings and see if the new growth still looks the same.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top