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if ur growing short bushy plants would marical grow organic soil be good? im new to growing and starting my first with that soil (.10-.5-.5) i am using 3 26w 2700k cfls from seed-bud and i will be tring 3-5 plants depeneding on the sex ratio i get will this work? im using no nutes, and maybe ill put 1 worm in each pot to scworm around and make me some worm castings is that better or should i not use worms? idk what to do:( please help im new and im starting once i pick up the soil off my friend and get the seeds off my friend whats the minium hight for a plant pot? 3"? or 2? i need a short and wider type of pot and i dont no how big it HAS to be because of my hight in my short stealth cabnit please look at my tread in my sig and help me
 

pimpnitjc

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My plants are doing alot better now that I added the lime in the soil and also foliar feed with some epsom salt. I am going to water this time with 1 teaspoon of epsom salt and then next time..just water them with plain PHed water.
 

Kriegs

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if ur growing short bushy plants would marical grow organic soil be good? im new to growing and starting my first with that soil (.10-.5-.5) i am using 3 26w 2700k cfls from seed-bud and i will be tring 3-5 plants depeneding on the sex ratio i get will this work? im using no nutes, and maybe ill put 1 worm in each pot to scworm around and make me some worm castings is that better or should i not use worms? idk what to do:( please help im new and im starting once i pick up the soil off my friend and get the seeds off my friend whats the minium hight for a plant pot? 3"? or 2? i need a short and wider type of pot and i dont no how big it HAS to be because of my hight in my short stealth cabnit please look at my tread in my sig and help me
MG organic will work. Before you plant, mix in 2 tablespoons of dolomite per gallon of soil. This will keep your soil pH stable over the course of the grow. You can get this at any Lowe's or garden shop. Google "pot size gallon" to get an estimate of pot volume given any particular diameter.

For the short stealth approach you're describing, a gallon pot should be plenty - that's about 6X6 inches.

Don't put worms in your soil - the benefit won't be enough to bother. Just focus on growing MJ this time; we can grow worms next time... good luck.
 

diemdepyro

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MG organic will work. Before you plant, mix in 2 tablespoons of dolomite per gallon of soil. This will keep your soil pH stable over the course of the grow. You can get this at any Lowe's or garden shop. Google "pot size gallon" to get an estimate of pot volume given any particular diameter.

For the short stealth approach you're describing, a gallon pot should be plenty - that's about 6X6 inches.

Don't put worms in your soil - the benefit won't be enough to bother. Just focus on growing MJ this time; we can grow worms next time... good luck.
Sound advise Kriegs!
 

Kriegs

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lol but will it work? cuz im not using nutes
Put them in there if you want; they won't hurt anything. They may die and stink up your room like a rotting corpse but hey, worse things could happen.

And if you're using the MG "3 month feed" soil, you don't need nutes... or worms, either.
 

TerdFergasonINC

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Anyone else get those weird looking red striped bugs on thier plants? Where the hell do those things come from!!!! damn lil pot head buggs......
 

TerdFergasonINC

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there pretty tiny.... kinda look like a bettle? there deff not spider mites though. I noticed a few holes in my leaves looked around, killed one.. but they keep poping up... Im going to try garlic extract to get ride of em, but I dont even know where they came from... I disinfected my gro room and coverd it in plastic so its alil mystery.
 

Old Man of the Sea

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Screw MG.

Any knob can grow marijuana in MG, sure the stuff is a little hot, big deal. If Grandma can grow a African Violets in it, I can surely grow some weed.

No, I hate MG because they are not a good company. In fact they are a bad company. A greedy multi-national chemical company. The EPA is constantly suing them. Their own employees are suing them for exposing them to mystery chemicals, women exposed to their factories are giving birth to flipper babies, the list never ends. THIS is your hero?

http://www.greendaily.com/2008/04/23/scotts-lawn-care-gets-busted-by-the-epa/

Thnks bud i never knew this and I will be sure not to use or recommend their products anymore. I am a former landscaper and am currenlty working on getting my landscape Architecture degree. Knowledge is power.I have used it MG and found it helpful in addition to a complete and balanced fertilizing program. Excesses and deficiences are not the fault of the product if you do not follow directions on the container. There are only a few forms of chemical NPK available on the market and all chemically based fertilizers use the same chemicals, just in differing combinations or analysis.
 

Kriegs

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Thnks bud i never knew this and I will be sure not to use or recommend their products anymore. I am a former landscaper and am currenlty working on getting my landscape Architecture degree. Knowledge is power.I have used it MG and found it helpful in addition to a complete and balanced fertilizing program. Excesses and deficiences are not the fault of the product if you do not follow directions on the container. There are only a few forms of chemical NPK available on the market and all chemically based fertilizers use the same chemicals, just in differing combinations or analysis.
Congrats on your degree work.. landscape architecture is a very cool field.

Knowledge is power, but I'm not sure that's what is being conveyed here. Check out that greendaily link. Hardly the broad scathing indictment suggested (employee lawsuits? flipper babies? where and when? not in that link). It's not good, either - I'm not arguing that. But trust me, virtually every business organization is looking for shortcuts to profitability. It's the nature of the game.

My issue is this: people get on rants about this or that company, product, or activity without looking at the whole picture. It's easy to jump on Scotts / MG for distributing their "nasty chemicals", but these same chemicals are also coming thru to the consumer in many of the fancy-label nutes that try to imply eco-friendliness. Look at the labels -- ammonium sulfate? potassium nitrate? etc etc. These base constituents of plant nutrient products are ALL THE SAME (a point you made well). And, they all come from the SAME PILE of ammonium sulfate, etc. Many of these piles of raw material are actually produced by oil companies, so some people rage against MG, then go fill their gas tanks at Exxon.

And, as I laid out about 10 pages back and won't go into here, there's nothing ecofriendly about yarding out thousands of tons of natural kelp, bat guano, or producing worm castings. It's all nasty and destructive.

Do you know that bats need their guano in their caves? It's the nutrient base for the cave ecosystem, which is a lot more than bats.

This fellow on ICMAG makes a good non-technical argument:

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=106103&userid=33886

I'm an ecologist by trade; his info is sound.

Anyway, I'm not trying to carry any water for Scotts/MG. I just have a personal thing about one-sided arguments built more on emotion and knee-jerk interpretation of isolated facts (not accusing you of that directly... but it is kind of a national disease that I war against daily).
 

HIGHFLY

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Hey im using the mirical grow garden soil it says not to put in pots but i did anyway what will this do?
 

HIGHFLY

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hmmmm so waz the worst thing iz gonna doto my plant? cause it just started growing and i aint gonna try transplanting it so small....but i did add horse monure on top of the soil.
 
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