Well Here Goes Again
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Danielsgb
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Yea, I'm a member of MMGA. I missed the meetings but I'll get to some.
Check this out.
I stayed at Tom Daubert's house for his group Patients & Families United. in Helena for that testimony last month.
A statewide poll conducted last weekend found that a sizeable majority of adult Montanans 63% still supports allowing medical marijuana, and most would support strict new regulations. But, in stark contrast, very few only 20% supports current proposals to repeal the states compassionate medical marijuana law, it was announced today.
As a general principle, not specific to medical marijuana, only 24% of Montanans believes any initiative adopted by a strong majority of voters should be repealed by the Legislature.
The telephone poll of 2,212 Montanans was conducted last Saturday and Sunday by Public Policy Polling of Raleigh, North Carolina, for Patients & Families United (PFU), a Montana public education support group for medical cannabis and pain patients. The polls margin of error is plus or minus 2.1%.
Slightly more than the 62% of voters who adopted this compassionate policy in 2004 still support protecting medical marijuana patients, reported Tom Daubert, PFU founder/director, and only 20% of adult Montanans believe the Legislature should repeal the law. Meanwhile, 60% believe the Legislature should instead pass new regulations that are strict and that allow for local controls as well, he said.
Daubert noted that the poll also found that a total of 76% of Montanans believe either that the law should be left alone, unchanged, or that new regulations should be added.
He emphasized that the poll findings show Montanans as a whole agree with Patients & Families United, which has supported law enforcement, local government groups and others who believe the law should be fixed with rigorous regulatory side-boards that require accountability and oversight of those who produce and dispense medical cannabis to patients.
Repealing this law would be the only step worse than doing nothing to fix it, Daubert said. Its neither moral nor practical to suddenly redefine thousands of suffering patients as criminals. Taxpayers cant afford that, and patients who are leading more comfortable, productive lives using cannabis rather than narcotics cant be expected to happily go backwards, he said. This voter-adopted policy is benefiting a great many people, and it deserves to be fixed in ways that will address everyones concerns. We are gratified to know that Montanans agree.
So 1 in 5 Montanans are for repeal. Are you shitting me. 76% think they should NEVER overturn a voter initiative.
Daniels
Check this out.
I stayed at Tom Daubert's house for his group Patients & Families United. in Helena for that testimony last month.
A statewide poll conducted last weekend found that a sizeable majority of adult Montanans 63% still supports allowing medical marijuana, and most would support strict new regulations. But, in stark contrast, very few only 20% supports current proposals to repeal the states compassionate medical marijuana law, it was announced today.
As a general principle, not specific to medical marijuana, only 24% of Montanans believes any initiative adopted by a strong majority of voters should be repealed by the Legislature.
The telephone poll of 2,212 Montanans was conducted last Saturday and Sunday by Public Policy Polling of Raleigh, North Carolina, for Patients & Families United (PFU), a Montana public education support group for medical cannabis and pain patients. The polls margin of error is plus or minus 2.1%.
Slightly more than the 62% of voters who adopted this compassionate policy in 2004 still support protecting medical marijuana patients, reported Tom Daubert, PFU founder/director, and only 20% of adult Montanans believe the Legislature should repeal the law. Meanwhile, 60% believe the Legislature should instead pass new regulations that are strict and that allow for local controls as well, he said.
Daubert noted that the poll also found that a total of 76% of Montanans believe either that the law should be left alone, unchanged, or that new regulations should be added.
He emphasized that the poll findings show Montanans as a whole agree with Patients & Families United, which has supported law enforcement, local government groups and others who believe the law should be fixed with rigorous regulatory side-boards that require accountability and oversight of those who produce and dispense medical cannabis to patients.
Repealing this law would be the only step worse than doing nothing to fix it, Daubert said. Its neither moral nor practical to suddenly redefine thousands of suffering patients as criminals. Taxpayers cant afford that, and patients who are leading more comfortable, productive lives using cannabis rather than narcotics cant be expected to happily go backwards, he said. This voter-adopted policy is benefiting a great many people, and it deserves to be fixed in ways that will address everyones concerns. We are gratified to know that Montanans agree.
So 1 in 5 Montanans are for repeal. Are you shitting me. 76% think they should NEVER overturn a voter initiative.
Daniels
Danielsgb
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A quick rant on my politicking before I get to the plans for the garden.
I wrote a letter to the editor of the local paper & it was printed today. On the website in the comments I was challenged right off for my stats. Arrogant fuck didn't realize I had all of the sources for what I said. I went sentence by sentence for my letter. No one has commented claiming I was wrong yet. Here's my letter, without name.
To repeal medical marijuana now after three sessions of wasted time is just wrong. There have been so many lies told by those for repealing it.
According to Montana state statistics, since medical marijuana passed in 2004 to 2009, Montana's crime index has declined 15.8 percent, the fewest people died in auto fatalities, teenage marijuana use dropped 28.7 percent, gross domestic product outpaced national averages, workplace injuries declined, workplace fatalities dropped, overall marijuana use fell, and fewer people attended rehab with marijuana as their "primary substance."
There is $100 million for schools and elderly health care. To miss that opportunity is immoral at best.
So on to the garden. I was going to harvest PR #4 in the fridge tomorrow morning, but now I'm going to try a 36 to 40 hr. dark first. I have PR #1 to harvest in a few days too.
I did the final trimming then weighed the Purple Rain I have harvested so far. It was 74 grams from #2, #5, & #6 & the clones. There is a quarter or more of fluffy buds that would make great doobies, or maybe a try at the ISO Hash RiddleMe was talking about.
I have some pics of the best purple bud I trimmed real nice. I'll crop them later & post them.
Daniels
I wrote a letter to the editor of the local paper & it was printed today. On the website in the comments I was challenged right off for my stats. Arrogant fuck didn't realize I had all of the sources for what I said. I went sentence by sentence for my letter. No one has commented claiming I was wrong yet. Here's my letter, without name.
To repeal medical marijuana now after three sessions of wasted time is just wrong. There have been so many lies told by those for repealing it.
According to Montana state statistics, since medical marijuana passed in 2004 to 2009, Montana's crime index has declined 15.8 percent, the fewest people died in auto fatalities, teenage marijuana use dropped 28.7 percent, gross domestic product outpaced national averages, workplace injuries declined, workplace fatalities dropped, overall marijuana use fell, and fewer people attended rehab with marijuana as their "primary substance."
There is $100 million for schools and elderly health care. To miss that opportunity is immoral at best.
So on to the garden. I was going to harvest PR #4 in the fridge tomorrow morning, but now I'm going to try a 36 to 40 hr. dark first. I have PR #1 to harvest in a few days too.
I did the final trimming then weighed the Purple Rain I have harvested so far. It was 74 grams from #2, #5, & #6 & the clones. There is a quarter or more of fluffy buds that would make great doobies, or maybe a try at the ISO Hash RiddleMe was talking about.
I have some pics of the best purple bud I trimmed real nice. I'll crop them later & post them.
Daniels
crazytrain14
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man those are some super frosty buds nice work
Danielsgb
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Thanks. The pics don't show the purple hue it has in person. It's my PR re-veg choice so next time with clones I'll do better.
I have to build a box to sift soil into today.
PR #4 in the fridge has been in the dark since 7pm yesterday, so harvest coming soon for her.
Daniels
I have to build a box to sift soil into today.
PR #4 in the fridge has been in the dark since 7pm yesterday, so harvest coming soon for her.
Daniels
gumball
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I bet that hash oil will be goodI got some 91% ISO & Acetone.
Now I have to re-read RiddleMe's thread to clarify some details.
I'm gonna use some lower pop corn buds to make some hash oil. I have to think of how to describe the PR's scent, but I'll have a smoke report tonight.
Daniels
I was gonna pick some up tomorrow and do all the leaves I have. Should have over an ounce of leaves.
Danielsgb
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I better put these here. Back with an update on that I did.
I'm gonna start this off with a note to Lumi, cause he was here for Christmas, as some of you may know,,,,,,
Hey Lumi, remember how baked we were after tasting several buds and farie dust salads? imagine being even more stoned with JUST ONE HIT
Ok, so if you follow my threads then you know I have a very high tolorence, why I only smoke farie dust (to get high) I do smoke buds to taste test em but they don't get me high unless I smoke a lot (and I mean A LOT)
And as you know I recently started playin with ISO Hash and put my own spin on it by incorporating farie dust with it and earlier named it sweet tar hash, the name fits for me even though it includes the word tar because hey this sh*t looks like the tar we all clean out of our pipes & bongs but is loaded with the sweet goodness we all love from the plant.
Well I loved the taste and high from the first batch so much that I decided to do a bit of research on it and found lots of recipes (just google ISO Hash) with my first batch I left the buds in the ISO for several hours, in my research I discovered that a mere 20 to 30 seconds of vigorous shaking was all that required and this resulted in a better end product. Seems the longer it sits in the ISO the more stuff it pulls out that seems to weaken the final product.
NOTE: that if there is any moisture in the buds/shake/trim that it will pull it out and after the ISO evaporates the water needs to as well (takes a bit longer)
Now let me share that I normally take on average (depends on the salad mix) 10 hits of farie dust to get where I want to be. With the first batch of sweet tar it was very similar, took 10 hits to get there but tasted better, so I was happy. With refined process it came down to just 4 or 5 hits to get there and was simply awesome, I even saw colors and sh*t but here is the kicker I made a small batch (small cause was refinin & experimentin) that yielded a bit under a gram, I rolled up a bowl sized ball of it and smoked on that one ball for 4 days, yes it lasted 4 days and even shared it with a friend and each time I took 4 or 5 hits off it it was just as good as the time before, my friend loved it!
Then I had an idea and I am very sure that I am not the first to try this though I may be the first to mix it with farie dust? what would happen if I did a freshly harvested bud? I just loaded the chamber with some freshly chopped GDP & Mango so I grabbed a bottom branch of GDP had like 7 little popcorn buds on it and I threw it into the ISO jar, because it was wet I shook it for 1 minute and filtered it into the pyrex dish. upon inspection I noticed that it did not dissolve the trichs, they were still very much intact and I thought oh well prolly didn't work but was worth a try. I proceeded to finish it anyway and then put the plant matter back in ISO to soak overnight (roughly 9 hours) it is in process as I write this and I will report on it later but here is what I noticed that just the little mushroom like heads of the trichs dissolved leaving behind the little cloudy white stems, which I though was kinda wierd, but I'm gettin ahead of myself
I finished the first batch last night and kneaded in a 3 strain salad of farie dust, it yelded a little over a gram and I sliced a bit and put it in my bowl and then OMG was it STRONG my lips, teeth and gums went numb imediately, my throat tingled, my lungs expanded and brothers I was stoned, that one hit put me way beyond where I normally like to go and it continued creepin within 10 minutes I was couchlocked and kinda just starin at the tv, not a care in the world. But I did one hell of a smile on my face as I realized I had just discovered the holy grail of stoners, THE ULTIMATE HIGH!
I sat there completely stoned for a few hours and then took a second hit, it compounded very quickly and I took my happy ass to bed (while I still could) and was out in less than 20 minutes, and boy did I sleep like a baby waking up absolutely refreshed. Since this is exactly what I want from my medicine I was very happy indeed
There will be no more trimmin popcorn buds ever again LOL as Riddle has a new way of procurrin his private stash
So it really is very simple,
just put some buds in a jar (finished or fresh)
cover them with 91% ISO
vigorously shake for 20 to 30 seconds
pour thru a regular coffee filter into a pyrex (glass) dish or plate
once it stops draining wrap the filter into a ball and squeeze the remaining goodness from it
allow it to evaporate dry, this can be sped up by blowing on it with a small fan (this makes the room smell like ISO)
and just after it has vaped off the liquid (ISO & water) scrape up the tar with a razor blade and dunk it into a pile of farie dust, this allows you to pull it off the blade using your fingers (yes this shit is as nasty as the tar we clean out of our pipes in terms of sticky & messy)
now rollit into a ball, kneading the farie dust into it and dipping it into more farie dust, kneading/rolling till the little ball becomes merely tacky, kinda like scotch tape.
now set aside for 2 or 3 hours allowing to dry
slice off a bit and enjoy!
I encourage to you to experiment with this as I have, hey always lookin for better (though gotta say this was the best high I ever had) I have one more experiment to do as I am no stranger to Organic Chemestry (love those 2 words together in an MJ forum) hell I have even broken the carbonian ion chain (some of you may know what that means LOL ) and if it turns out well I might share ???
And yes this is my last research ditty here, I will remain a visitor and member at RIU as I love all of you and it continues to greatly entertain me but future ditties will be on a new site launching soon. I hope that if any of you decide to try this that you will come back and share your results !!!!!!!
as to purity, I am now trying acetone instead of ISO after doing some more research and even discovered there is a book out there explaining several techniques Cannabis Alchemy by David Gold.
The second shake of the fresh bud did not yield anything favorable, I tossed it. And as to the left behind trich stems hell I'm clueless, but will keep experimentin
So far the acetone has given a much cleaner yield, this first batch is a finished bud batch and if it turns out good I will do a fresh bud in tomorrow (this batch is still drying/evaporating) I notice that it does not extract the plant matter as much or as quickly and my research revealed that you can even use acetone on stems. it has a much more golden hue to it (the ISO was greenish) and I am looking forward to testing it
and yes Lumi, I will save some for April LOL
Also important to make sure you get 99% "pure" acetone, got mine at wal-mart for $6.77
another wierd observation is it seems to freeze the stuff in the jar after I shook it and poured into filter the buds were crispy and very cold?
The first results are in, as noted first extract using acetone was on dried cured buds. This end product was much cleaner, there was no "tar" element. Final product more like an oil and more difficult to bind with farie dust, also still sticky even after hours of drying, but very yummy to smoke, no chem taste at all and the smell was to die for
as I write this the second extract using acetone is vapoing, with this one following my research I did stacked pours, meaning that I put "fresh" popcorn & trim into several jars then filled the first jar with acetone and strained into the second jar, then strained the second jar into the 3rd jar. this allows extraction using less acetone, encreasing yield and limiting dry/vape time. I am going to finish this one without adding farie dust
also note that when I squeezed the acetone out of the filters it instantly vaped off (boiling point of acetone is 56 degrees) and left my hand so so very sticky and as a result of skin absorption I got a contact high which was mild
You remember all of that vaped weed I have? What keeps me from turning it into oil was the green tar, even though it gets me higher than shit. I've also tried Butane but that was tricky. I'm running out the door now to go get me some Acetone @ 99%! I'll report back my results and take pics...as long as Daniels doesn't mind the hijack!
Danielsgb
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I was gonna mention it will just have "I better put these here"
So here's the first one.
OMG!!! I've seen that can somewhere!!! I have half a container of that same Acetone! Time to get busy!!I was gonna mention it will just have "I better put these here"
So here's the first one.
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Danielsgb
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If this stuff is this powerful with sugar leaf trimmings, then I'm half scared for the batch from the lower trimming.OMG!!! I've seen that can somewhere!!! I have half a container of that same Acetone! Time to get busy!!
I thought I had enough of the fairie dust, but was short. It was glass sticky like RM3 says, then I mixed power in to a paste.
On to smoke report for Purple Rain. I decided the smell reminds me of the Smartie candies. Like you get at the Bank. Kinda fruity, kinda sweet, kinda lemony/citrus. It may change and settle as it is barely cured for this test. Flavor for the smoke is undetermined. Tastes good but no clear flavor yet.
So after a bowl with the sis, I put some of this paste on to a small bowl. Got a little chemical taste, but since it needs more drying time, no surprise. But FUCK, had both of us grinning and I feel high as fuck. I have an amazing tolerance which has to be in RM3's neighborhood. When I finish this post I think I might have to go for some quiet time. Typing all this and blatant lost seconds trying to remember a word is killing me.
Daniels
