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Uncle Ben

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In the old post I found you mention sterilized rice. Is that some different than normal white rice or can I do that myself?
Nah, just my way of being anal. I heat up a small pot a bit, throw a little rice in it, toss it around a bit and dump it to let it cool. Just insures that the rice is bone dry and sterile. Whenever you heat any kind of organics, like potting soil, just remember to never exceed 175F. Apparently the organics can give off harmful by products if you really cook them....at least that's what I've read.

BTW, your recent posts shows some really healthy, GREEN, looking plants. Way to go! Da male is a typical leggie hombre. You'll get a feel of the best time and way to collect pollen. I chose a point when most bracts were open, picked up the branch by the bottom (is clipped and stuck in a vase of water by now), lean it over a plasticized paper plate and thump. Done about 3 times a day, you can harvest alot of pollen in about 4 days time. Also, my males always had a shitload of flowers all over the branches.

Here's a line from a C99 male after getting a good thumpin'. Must be about 1/4 tsp. here ready to be mixed into a flour/pollen mix using a pill bottle.


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Now go spread some luv ~ :D

UB
 

Danielsgb

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Nah, just my way of being anal. I heat up a small pot a bit, throw a little rice in it, toss it around a bit and dump it to let it cool. Just insures that the rice is bone dry and sterile. Whenever you heat any kind of organics, like potting soil, just remember to never exceed 175F. Apparently the organics can give off harmful by products if you really cook them....at least that's what I've read.

BTW, your recent posts shows some really healthy, GREEN, looking plants. Way to go! Da male is a typical leggie hombre. You'll get a feel of the best time and way to collect pollen. I chose a point when most bracts were open, picked up the branch by the bottom (is clipped and stuck in a vase of water by now), lean it over a plasticized paper plate and thump. Done about 3 times a day, you can harvest alot of pollen in about 4 days time. Also, my males always had a shitload of flowers all over the branches.

Here's a line from a C99 male after getting a good thumpin'. Must be about 1/4 tsp. here ready to be mixed into a flour/pollen mix using a pill bottle.


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Now go spread some luv ~ :D

UB
I'm plucking pollen sacs into a pill bottle as they look full. I'll thump onto a paper plate to finish. I had a feeling the rice was heated to remove any moisture. I would have heard of sterilized rice by now with all the restaurants I've worked in.
My plan is to mix the flour/pollen then put 1 grain of rice and a scoop into these 1/2 dram vials. Should be a long term storage. Cool, dry, dark spot. 1 vial could seed as many as would ever need. No mix up just toss when used. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170583818035&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

That's quite a line of C99.:-P Was that one that was worth back crossing, etc?
If I can pollinate where I want and no random seeds where they weren't suppose to be I'll feel confident into beginning breeding.
This is a test run in some ways cause I wanted a better male but they are a mystery to know what they pass. I just want to save plenty in case the f2's show a solid increase in potency. Seems like that is going to be the hard part. If I start looking now maybe I'll realize a unique special male when I see one.:leaf:

Been trying to keep the leaves as lush as I can.:leaf: I'm learning my garden as I go. I'm glad to have you following along. Your solid advice and methods are always welcome. Did you see a couple pages back I'm taking a Master Gardening certification class? 16 weekly 2hr. classes, and some local volunteer work. I'll get great access to the county compost now. It will fill in some gaps I have in other aspects too. It's 5 degrees here and I'm already itching for spring flower gardening.
Daniels:bigjoint:
 

Danielsgb

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Maybe we should clone Daniels, one for each of our gardens! ;)
The H.G. laughed and replied "No way, 1 is enough".

like a Daniels gnome, the roaming Daniels!!!
I could bring my Harvest gnome. He would love the TSA for a screening. They would question that. "Sir, why do you have a gnome, & 1 oz. of Cannabis?" "He's my shaman.:leaf:, & my MS makes me twitchy." :-P
Daniels:bigjoint:
 

jsgamber

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The H.G. laughed and replied "No way, 1 is enough".

I could bring my Harvest gnome. He would love the TSA for a screening. They would question that. "Sir, why do you have a gnome, & 1 oz. of Cannabis?" "He's my shaman.:leaf:, & my MS makes me twitchy." :-P
Daniels:bigjoint:
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Uncle Ben

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I'm plucking pollen sacs into a pill bottle as they look full. I'll thump onto a paper plate to finish.
Hmmmmm, are you sure they are viable at that stage? When the flowers are still on the plant and stop shedding pollen on their own, I know they are mature. Just saying......


That's quite a line of C99.:-P Was that one that was worth back crossing, etc?
Yeah, probably the best cross I did too, wish I still had those seeds. It's the last photo in my Griffin's Spin-out thread. Male Peak19 X female C99. https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/9114-spin-out-chemical-root-pruning.html

Been trying to keep the leaves as lush as I can.:leaf: I'm learning my garden as I go. I'm glad to have you following along. Your solid advice and methods are always welcome. Did you see a couple pages back I'm taking a Master Gardening certification class? 16 weekly 2hr. classes, and some local volunteer work. I'll get great access to the county compost now. It will fill in some gaps I have in other aspects too. It's 5 degrees here and I'm already itching for spring flower gardening.
Daniels:bigjoint:
Excellent. I think you'll gain alot from that course.

I just got back the analysis on my friend's compost and there are some really wackey results in it that I can't figure out, like a pH that's 8.2, K out of sight (1110 PPM). Guess what I'm getting at is don't take anything for granted or assume. When you've finally settled on a mix or a compost, have it tested so you know what you have. Basically what my test shows is a 1-4-11. Gonna discuss with one of their techs this morn. Being that my friend is an organic purist, a "greenie" and doesn't believe in these Aggie results ("that college is being funded by the chemical plants, Monsanto") it's been "interesting". You can't reason with some people. Their mindset is based on feelings, conspiracies, and what amounts to a fringe pseudo religious zealotry. Guy has been making and applying this compost for years, by the ton, and didn't even know what's in it!

A couple of thoughts. Just received a Taylor Scientific Min/Max recording thermometer and I'm loving it. They also sell an Orchard recording thermometer. Cost about $25, and great fun to see what your lows are outdoors, the differential in your pot garden, etc. For best plant health, strive for about a 20F differential.

That thermometer, a good pH meter and a light meter that registers up to 10K f.c. is highly recommended.

UB
 

Danielsgb

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Here's all the Purple Rain under the 400W CMH. #2, #5, & #6. They got 1 tbs. Jack's, 1 1/2 tsp. Apple Juice & 1/4 tsp. Pro-teKt/gal. Seem to be doing good. They were ready today.
Daniels:weed:
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#6 Alyssa:leaf:
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Danielsgb

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Hmmmmm, are you sure they are viable at that stage? When the flowers are still on the plant and stop shedding pollen on their own, I know they are mature. Just saying......

I just got back the analysis on my friend's compost and there are some really wackey results in it that I can't figure out, like a pH that's 8.2, K out of sight (1110 PPM). Guess what I'm getting at is don't take anything for granted or assume. When you've finally settled on a mix or a compost, have it tested so you know what you have. Basically what my test shows is a 1-4-11. Gonna discuss with one of their techs this morn. Being that my friend is an organic purist, a "greenie" and doesn't believe in these Aggie results ("that college is being funded by the chemical plants, Monsanto") it's been "interesting". You can't reason with some people. Their mindset is based on feelings, conspiracies, and what amounts to a fringe pseudo religious zealotry. Guy has been making and applying this compost for years, by the ton, and didn't even know what's in it!
I hoped they were close to opening before I snipped them, but even if some weren't ready I think thumping it at the end should give me enough to mix with the flour. Guess I'll find out in few days.

That amazes me a farmer would use a compost by the ton without a $15 test. 1100 ppm seemed high so I got mine out. It's 331 & CL is 125 so Holy shit that's High.

Wonder what the solution to that will be. A N of 1 says a bunch of manure to me. I can get you a Ton if you want to come visit. j/k.:-P

I don't remember a Monsanto coupon for it's products or seed with my analysis. You get one?:wall:
I hate them for several other reasons but I doubt the college is funded by them. You just can't reason, I agree. This uncle I mention is one. I don't know my argument against the purist mindset yet to discuss it too much.

So my uncle brought me humic acid today . A dry granular mix, mostly tan pellets. He now knows I grow and said it's a mix from cleaning a piece of farm equipment. Here's what he told me.
It's a time released humic acid, and other good stuff like zinc, sulfur, & iron etc. He mixes stuff by the pound for acres so he didn't know a ratio or remember it's commercial name. I asked if he thought a tea could be made. He wasn't sure but suggested asking some people and research.

So I was thinking I could try 1 tsp. in 2 qt. to see is it dissolves and try it on a plant to test. Unsure of this idea, and some what doubtful.

I could mix some (1/2 tsp.??) into a 1 gal. pot, then send a 3 cup sample to Texas A&M for a soil re-analysis to compare to my base soil mix. For $20 might be worth it. I could try some top dressing.
What do you think? Maybe a good add to my next big soil mix. But would this be a way to see it's NPK? Use my soil add some of this, re-test then compare? I don't think you can send the plain granular fert in, can you ?
Daniels

Here's the male today
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Danielsgb

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Here's a few pics of the SS today. Still 3 close pheno's and 1 with thinner leaves.

Daniels

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See the difference in #3 leaf then #4:fire:
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jsgamber

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I finally figured out!!! Daniel doesn't actually grow! Those are all fake plastic plants and he's got about 50 of 'em in a back room all made to look like different stages of growing. He just brings different ones out and takes pictures from different angles in different light and we all think he's amazing!!!

Nobody can grow plants like that!!! :D :D :D

Faker!! :lol:
 

Danielsgb

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I finally figured out!!! Daniel doesn't actually grow! Those are all fake plastic plants and he's got about 50 of 'em in a back room all made to look like different stages of growing. He just brings different ones out and takes pictures from different angles in different light and we all think he's amazing!!!

Nobody can grow plants like that!!! :D :D :D

Faker!! :lol:
Yep, you figured it out. There is NO Daniels, just the Hippie Gardener. A 64 yr. old lady fooled you all with her dozens of plastic plants.

That was funny gamber, real funny :lol:
Nicely done. I coughed up coffee when I read it.
You know how many hours it took for that shot up-canning with roots. Carefully trimming white threads. :leaf:
Daniels:weed:
 

bekindbud

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Yep, you figured it out. There is NO Daniels, just the Hippie Gardener. A 64 yr. old lady fooled you all with her dozens of plastic plants.

Nicely done. I coughed up coffee when I read it.
You know how many hours it took for that shot up-canning with roots. Carefully trimming white threads. :leaf:
Daniels:weed:
I think Daniels climbed up that stalk in his avatar for some MAGICAL BEANS!!!!
 

Uncle Ben

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..... then send a 3 cup sample to Texas A&M for a soil re-analysis to compare to my base soil mix. For $20 might be worth it. I could try some top dressing.
What do you think? Maybe a good add to my next big soil mix. But would this be a way to see it's NPK? Use my soil add some of this, re-test then compare?
Mix based on best guess, test, and then go from there.

Lookin' good guy
 

Danielsgb

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I decided to clone one of each SS. I prepped 4 Peat Pots. 2 sizes as they were closer than the garage for more. I labeled #2-A & #3-A in the bigger cups. So I go to check closer for cloning. Shit you not, guess?
I see pre-flowers today as we start 12/12 on #2 & #3. So half are showing already as we worked down. As far as I know it's a trait for the fast flowering I want to get. I also decided to pull one more from #3 labeled #3-B.
I used the flair-form for some and Rootone for others. They join the other 4 clones under 20/4 in seperate chambers to dampen the others off soon.
I blocked light from the Mum area, and blocked some overflow lighting from these clones which are behind a wall. Not lightproof but no way 3000 lumens can be hitting them. Only has to last till the 1 in the FrigiDare is done. Week to 10 days.
Daniels:weed:
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