What are the negatives of Atheism?

mexiblunt

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Hepheastus420 said:
So for you atheists that follow science then we can tell you negative things that come from that. For example nuclear weapons.


Why do you guys think there is such a huge link between atheism and suicide?
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Hep do you know the ratio of athiests to believers within the group of scientist's that developed the nuclear bomb?
 
mexiblunt

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Ahh ha! This page of the thread is a good exapmle of assumption making. :) Not claiming this is all true but plausable. You assumed fog when it was snow, I assumed you thought it was fog cause your in NM and my name is mex, maybe I too was mexican or from mexico. (alot of ppl assume I'm mexican cause it says mex in my name). Then I assumed NM proly had "not much snow" not thinking of those elevations. Ohhh fun times! Yeah It was a huge snowstorm in way northern canada that I was driving thru at 2 miles per hour. I love going to mexico, so alot of my friends call me mexico. :)
 
Luger187

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mexiblunt said:
Ahh ha! This page of the thread is a good exapmle of assumption making. :) Not claiming this is all true but plausable. You assumed fog when it was snow, I assumed you thought it was fog cause your in NM and my name is mex, maybe I too was mexican or from mexico. (alot of ppl assume I'm mexican cause it says mex in my name). Then I assumed NM proly had "not much snow" not thinking of those elevations. Ohhh fun times! Yeah It was a huge snowstorm in way northern canada that I was driving thru at 2 miles per hour. I love going to mexico, so alot of my friends call me mexico. :)
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hahaha thats great.
i also assumed you were mexican or from mexico. but when i read this post, i looked at your location and laughed
 
mexiblunt

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Damn these brains of ours so quick on the draw we fool ourselves. I'm gonna fight back and hit the vape, maybe I can kill the assuming part of my brain. :)
 
mexiblunt

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I'm trying. Still not working. I can hold each and every breath for 1-2 minuits proly only breath 45 times in an hour, but the closer I get the more I assume it will proly kill me too.
 
Carne Seca

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mexiblunt said:
Ahh ha! This page of the thread is a good exapmle of assumption making. :) Not claiming this is all true but plausable. You assumed fog when it was snow, I assumed you thought it was fog cause your in NM and my name is mex, maybe I too was mexican or from mexico. (alot of ppl assume I'm mexican cause it says mex in my name). Then I assumed NM proly had "not much snow" not thinking of those elevations. Ohhh fun times! Yeah It was a huge snowstorm in way northern canada that I was driving thru at 2 miles per hour. I love going to mexico, so alot of my friends call me mexico. :)
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That wasn't the right assumption. :p I figured your mexiblunt handle referred to mexican sativa. I saw in the location you were in Canada so I never assumed you were Mexican or in Mexico itself. *LOL*
 
olylifter420

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In the context of religion, the answer to all these questions is yes.
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that is the stupidest thing i have ever seen you post... and you have posted some very bias and hypocritical posts before... by your logic, then all religious people or followers of God will and always commit evil acts... pretty smart on your part... and i know, you are going to use the "you always misconstrue others words or your gay "oly says the darndests things"

tell more about hitler or stalin and how their atheism and hatred towards religion and God followers really helped out society? Im pretty sure you will find something good to say about them...


if there is a link, could it be due to the discrimination and intolerance of atheists by religious people?
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really? again, you are a hypocrite and your logic fails you again... the same thing can be turned around and used for suicides within religious people...
 
olylifter420

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I agree, by their logic, we should get rid of all humanity.

Again, believers triumph



Hepheastus420 said:
I posted this on a different thread but I feel like it fits in more on this thread.

Heis everything has the potential to cause a negative impact. some examples:
Music- it can cause depression or influence people into acting in a negative way.
Movies- has the same potential as music.
School- a kid may be bullied and shoot up the place.
Those are just from the top of my head, my point is that it can be beneficial but it depends on how you use it. People don't want to eradicate music, movies, or school just because of the negative impact it can have on a person. So IMO religion shouldn't be hated to this degree either unless you want to start making threads to get rid of everything else in this world that has the potential to cause negativity.
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tyler.durden

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Originally Posted by Hepheastus420
I posted this on a different thread but I feel like it fits in more on this thread.

Heis everything has the potential to cause a negative impact. some examples:
Music- it can cause depression or influence people into acting in a negative way.
Movies- has the same potential as music.
School- a kid may be bullied and shoot up the place.
Those are just from the top of my head, my point is that it can be beneficial but it depends on how you use it. People don't want to eradicate music, movies, or school just because of the negative impact it can have on a person. So IMO religion shouldn't be hated to this degree either unless you want to start making threads to get rid of everything else in this world that has the potential to cause negativity.

Hey, Hep. I think this was probably answered in that other thread, but I'll answer again here: there is nothing inherent in music, movies or school that instructs one to kill or maim oneself or others. They may be a very small percentage of movies and music that do encourage these things, (I am not aware of them), but not the vast majority. The Abrahamic religions (judaism, islam, and christianity) all contain specific instructions to kill, maim, offer your daughter up for prostitution, enslave others, etc.. Your point is well made that almost anything can be used for negativity, also most religious folks don't follow these awful instructions of their holy books. But the danger of religion is that it posits that it is the infallible word of god, and instructs and encourages these horrible things. School, music and movies do not...

 
Padawanbater2

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sen.c said:
Sounds like they are just wolves in sheeps clothing taking advantage of good hearted people to me, you make the statement as if to asert that this is what christians do and it is not. They are just
men who figured out if they put on a false front they can make millions, it doesn't make them christians just because they pretend to be.

I wouldn't go as far as saying that, porn and sexuality for that matter has been way more openly accepted in Europe and outlying countries for a long time and plays on tv. Just because they have the AVN awards here and the valley is the hub for adult films in the US doesn't really have anything to with acceptance on the broad scale.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

What does a 'true Christian' entail? How does one remain a 'true Christain' while actively sinning if you can just say 'he was never a Christian to begin with'?

This is the third time I've brought this up with you, and I've seen Heis point it out twice. It's a logical fallacy. You can always just say "they were never TRUE Christians" after someone does something negative and gets caught.

80% of the porn that is produced comes from Southern California, fact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pornographic_movie_studios
 
Hepheastus420

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tyler.durden said:
Originally Posted by Hepheastus420
I posted this on a different thread but I feel like it fits in more on this thread.

Heis everything has the potential to cause a negative impact. some examples:
Music- it can cause depression or influence people into acting in a negative way.
Movies- has the same potential as music.
School- a kid may be bullied and shoot up the place.
Those are just from the top of my head, my point is that it can be beneficial but it depends on how you use it. People don't want to eradicate music, movies, or school just because of the negative impact it can have on a person. So IMO religion shouldn't be hated to this degree either unless you want to start making threads to get rid of everything else in this world that has the potential to cause negativity.

Hey, Hep. I think this was probably answered in that other thread, but I'll answer again here: there is nothing inherent in music, movies or school that instructs one to kill or maim oneself or others. They may be a very small percentage of movies and music that do encourage these things, (I am not aware of them), but not the vast majority. The Abrahamic religions (judaism, islam, and christianity) all contain specific instructions to kill, maim, offer your daughter up for prostitution, enslave others, etc.. Your point is well made that almost anything can be used for negativity, also most religious folks don't follow these awful instructions of their holy books. But the danger of religion is that it posits that it is the infallible word of god, and instructs and encourages these horrible things. School, music and movies do not...

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Yes there are things inherent in music and movies let's take metallicas kill them all. Hmm think about it kill them all, how is that not negative? There are plenty of movies that have negatively inspiring messages in them. Alot of rap songs talk about killing and prostitution and encourage people to act the same way. You cannot honestly say there is only a small percent of negative music. Just turn on the radio if you don't believe me. The vast majority of people where I live listen to the rap music I speak of and I live in Texas so I can't imagine how it is in other states. I'm not sure about Judaism and Islam belief (I do not follow them) but as far as I know about Christianity god and Jesus Do not teach us to kill or sell our daughters to prostitution. Can you show me where it says that Judaism and Islam teach to kill (like how Christians have the bible, can you show me where it says in their book?).
 
tyler.durden

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Hepheastus420 said:
Yes there are things inherent in music and movies let's take metallicas kill them all. Hmm think about it kill them all, how is that not negative? There are plenty of movies that have negatively inspiring messages in them. Alot of rap songs talk about killing and prostitution and encourage people to act the same way. You cannot honestly say there is only a small percent of negative music. Just turn on the radio if you don't believe me. The vast majority of people where I live listen to the rap music I speak of and I live in Texas so I can't imagine how it is in other states. I'm not sure about Judaism and Islam belief (I do not follow them) but as far as I know about Christianity god and Jesus Do not teach us to kill or sell our daughters to prostitution. Can you show me where it says that Judaism and Islam teach to kill (like how Christians have the bible, can you show me where it says in their book?).
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Here's a few examples from the Bible on what I am referring to:
Exodus 31:15 - Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. - Instructions to kill tens of millions of Americans including you if you've ever been so foolish as to work on Sunday.

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12)

Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13)

Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27)

Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15)

Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9)

Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10)

Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9)

Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19)

Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)

Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1)If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)


Sorry for so many examples, it's just too easy. I could post dozens of more horrific biblical instructions, but there are thousands of sites you could visit with a quick Google search. The Torah is the Jewish holy book and is basically the Old Testament. The Qur'an has many awful passages (and esp. in the hadiths), again you can google them. 'Kill 'em All' wasn't a song, but the name of the 1983 album. I've looked through these lyrics and can't find instructions to kill anyone. I listen to a LOT of rap, and while some is full of violence, they are not telling ME to go do these things. But even if there is music giving negative instructions, it is not claiming to be the absolute perfect word of god. Very few will follow rappers' instructions to do violence to others, millions are likely to follow the absolute and perfect word of god (the bible's) instructions to do violence. I do not know how this can be stated any clearer...
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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tyler.durden said:
Here's a few examples from the Bible on what I am referring to:
Exodus 31:15 - Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. - Instructions to kill tens of millions of Americans including you if you've ever been so foolish as to work on Sunday.

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12)

Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13)

Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27)

Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15)

Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9)

Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10)

Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9)

Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19)

Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)

Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1)If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)


Sorry for so many examples, it's just too easy. I could post dozens of more horrific biblical instructions, but there are thousands of sites you could visit with a quick Google search. The Torah is the Jewish holy book and is basically the Old Testament. The Qur'an has many awful passages (and esp. in the hadiths), again you can google them. 'Kill 'em All' wasn't a song, but the name of the 1983 album. I've looked through these lyrics and can't find instructions to kill anyone. I listen to a LOT of rap, and while some is full of violence, they are not telling ME to go do these things. But even if there is music giving negative instructions, it is not claiming to be the absolute perfect word of god. Very few will follow rappers' instructions to do violence to others, millions are likely to follow the absolute and perfect word of god (the bible's) instructions to do violence. I do not know how this can be stated any clearer...
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Can you give scriptures from the new testament please? And alot of rap influences the younger generation to go around killing others because they are not in your gang and stuff like that. I know there is no song called kill them all by Metallica I was just talking about the cover it says well KILL them all seems pretty violent to me.
In the new testament Jesus tells us that there are only two commandments-
Mat 22:36 Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law?

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.

Mat 22:39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
 
olylifter420

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I believe you are not naive, so i will go with retarded here. Are you retarded?

How does music not influence people to kill?


Find a murderer who solely used any of these scriptures you just quoted as an influence for their actions?

Yes, i know, you cant answer it so you will use your gay "oly says the darndests.things" hurt card..




tyler.durden said:
Here's a few examples from the Bible on what I am referring to:
Exodus 31:15 - Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. - Instructions to kill tens of millions of Americans including you if you've ever been so foolish as to work on Sunday.

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12)

Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13)

Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27)

Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15)

Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9)

Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10)

Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9)

Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19)

Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)

Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1)If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)


Sorry for so many examples, it's just too easy. I could post dozens of more horrific biblical instructions, but there are thousands of sites you could visit with a quick Google search. The Torah is the Jewish holy book and is basically the Old Testament. The Qur'an has many awful passages (and esp. in the hadiths), again you can google them. 'Kill 'em All' wasn't a song, but the name of the 1983 album. I've looked through these lyrics and can't find instructions to kill anyone. I listen to a LOT of rap, and while some is full of violence, they are not telling ME to go do these things. But even if there is music giving negative instructions, it is not claiming to be the absolute perfect word of god. Very few will follow rappers' instructions to do violence to others, millions are likely to follow the absolute and perfect word of god (the bible's) instructions to do violence. I do not know how this can be stated any clearer...
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