What happened to my plants

Jt0217

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They are in 3 gallon cloth pots with foxs farm happy frog soil. I am giving them foxs farm nutes and have been following the feeding schedule chart. I gave them their first feed with tiger bloom a week ago and my ph is 6.4
 

Jt0217

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I was waiting for your third post go answer

Need all yer info
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Nutes and amounts
pH
Etc etc etc
They are in 3 gallon cloth pots with foxs farm happy frog soil. I am giving them foxs farm nutes and have been following the feeding schedule chart. I gave them their first feed with tiger bloom a week ago and my ph is 6.4
 

Driver733

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I am by no means an expert, but my first thought seeing the photos was overwatering, although that is supposed to be less likely in cloth pots.

They do dry faster in cloth pots, and that can lead people to think they should water sooner than they should.

Do they ever sit in runoff water? (They should not). How often do you water? How many days before the flush was the last watering? Two heavy waterings in a row without drying out could do that.

I am currently growing in 3 gallon cloth pots on day 21 in flower after 10 weeks in veg, I water near the end of every 3rd day, 1.5 gallons per plant with about a quart of runoff per plant. I've tried pushing it to the 4th day and one wilted so I no longer do that. But until I got this schedule down, I was weighing the pots on a digital scale to be sure I waited until they were dry before watering. I still weigh them every time just to be sure, since the heat will affect how much they drink and it has been really hot lately, but has started to cool down.

I still weigh all the smaller pots all the way thru veg into flower, I cannot always tell just by picking them up, and many times I thought they seemed light (and looked dry) until they were on the scale and I realized they had to wait another day or two.
 

Jt0217

Member
I am by no means an expert, but my first thought seeing the photos was overwatering, although that is supposed to be less likely in cloth pots.

They do dry faster in cloth pots, and that can lead people to think they should water sooner than they should.

Do they ever sit in runoff water? (They should not). How often do you water? How many days before the flush was the last watering? Two heavy waterings in a row without drying out could do that.

I am currently growing in 3 gallon cloth pots on day 21 in flower after 10 weeks in veg, I water near the end of every 3rd day, 1.5 gallons per plant with about a quart of runoff per plant. I've tried pushing it to the 4th day and one wilted so I no longer do that. But until I got this schedule down, I was weighing the pots on a digital scale to be sure I waited until they were dry before watering. I still weigh them every time just to be sure, since the heat will affect how much they drink and it has been really hot lately, but has started to cool down.

I still weigh all the smaller pots all the way thru veg into flower, I cannot always tell just by picking them up, and many times I thought they seemed light (and looked dry) until they were on the scale and I realized they had to wait another day or two.
I dont even give mine a gallon when i feed but I feed every 3 days
 

Driver733

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I dont even give mine a gallon when i feed but I feed every 3 days
You mean feeding nutrients every 3 days, without plain ph'd water in between? How much water did you use when you flushed? When you flush, you should be using at least as much water as the size of the pot (i.e. 3 gallon pot, flush with 3 gallons water).

Are the plants dry in 3 days? It is tempting to think that if you don't even use a gallon every 3 days they should not be overwatered, but that could still be too little water too often if they never dry out. Also, when you water, you need to soak the pot, not just water it, otherwise the roots don't all get water.

The amount of water a plant uses all depends on size and age of the plants, genetics, ventilation, temperature, humidity and method of watering. On top of that, it is extremely important. The worst thing you can do is water too little, too often. That is why I use a scale. I have a friend who waters a quart every 2 days, and his results are less than desirable, to say the least. Terrible, actually. But he won't listen, and keeps right on doing it.

Your plants could actually be suffering from nutrient toxicity, without more information it is hard to say. At the very least, you should be watering until you get 20% runoff water, every time you water, to prevent salt buildup in the roots. Yes, it is a pain in the ass, but otherwise invites problems.
 
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Jt0217

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You mean feeding nutrients every 3 days, without plain ph'd water in between? How much water did you use when you flushed? When you flush, you should be using at least as much water as the size of the pot (i.e. 3 gallon pot, flush with 3 gallons water).

Are the plants dry in 3 days? It is tempting to think that if you don't even use a gallon every 3 days they should not be overwatered, but that could still be too little water too often if they never dry out. Also, when you water, you need to soak the pot, not just water it, otherwise the roots don't all get water.

The amount of water a plant uses all depends on size and age of the plants, genetics, ventilation, temperature, humidity and method of watering. On top of that, it is extremely important. The worst thing you can do is water too little, too often. That is why I use a scale. I have a friend who waters a quart every 2 days, and his results are less than desirable, to say the least. Terrible, actually. But he won't listen, and keeps right on doing it.

Your plants could actually be suffering from nutrient toxicity, without more information it is hard to say. At the very least, you should be watering until you get 20% runoff water, every time you water, to prevent salt buildup in the roots. Yes, it is a pain in the ass, but otherwise invites problems.
When you give them a nutrient feed do you use just plain ph'd water the time after before you give more bites? Also do you give your nutes at full strength?
 

Gorillabilly

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You need to flush again and check ph and tds on run off. I suspect your feeding schedule has changed your soil ph.
 

Driver733

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When you give them a nutrient feed do you use just plain ph'd water the time after before you give more bites? Also do you give your nutes at full strength?
I mix the nutrients at half the strength or less to start, and increase accordingly.

My current water routine: I fill a trash can with about 10 gallons of tap water 48 hours before I need to water, to keep the water at room temperature and let chlorine evaporate. I mix 1 gallon of water with 1.5 teaspoons FF Tiger Bloom, 1 tablespoon of Big Bloom, 1 teaspoon of cal mag, then ph up to 6.5. I take about an hour to feed this water in 4 - 1 quart increments every 15 minutes to allow the water to soak the pot.

Then after about 30 minutes I will mix a final batch of water with just 1 teaspoon cal mag then ph down to 6.5, they each get a half gallon of this water or more for at least 20% runoff water.

The plants are responding well to this for now. I will increase the FF Tiger Bloom from the current 1.5 teaspoon per gallon (half the recommended dosage) up to 3 teaspoons per gallon or more, depending on how the plant responds. I am only 3 weeks into flower so this will certainly increase over the next few weeks.
 
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