What happens if Cannabis prohibition is lifted

Aside from people who are incarcerated being released... will it change anything as far as growing it and selling it... I can’t afford the ridiculous fees the state imposes to run a legally licensed operation. And Collectives/Cooperatives are no longer a thing.... will their be opportunity for small mom and pop cultivators in the retail world?

ChavoThunder Fuck said:

Aside from people who are incarcerated being released... will it change anything as far as growing it and selling it... I can’t afford the ridiculous fees the state imposes to run a legally licensed operation. And Collectives/Cooperatives are no longer a thing.... will their be opportunity for small mom and pop cultivators in the retail world?

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They would likely outlaw growing much like home distilling. Feds want their tax dollars.

It wouldn't negate state laws and there are many state laws against it.

ChavoThunder Fuck said:

Aside from people who are incarcerated being released... will it change anything as far as growing it and selling it... I can’t afford the ridiculous fees the state imposes to run a legally licensed operation. And Collectives/Cooperatives are no longer a thing.... will their be opportunity for small mom and pop cultivators in the retail world?

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Unfortunately with the current prison system, without major reform to the "profit" system, I don't think they will. At best we can hope for decriminalization and years of appeals/court cases. I am of the opinion it will be treated like "bootlegging" or distilling liquor at home with all the same penalties just the normal folk can now buy a pack of Marlboro Jays at the corner. Feds will use the power of "licensing" and "regulations" to force the smaller mom and pops to carry ridiculous policies or follow rules that change monthly until they get "caught" and are forced to sell to a corporation that CAN do all of those things.

The only method I see to make it feasible and palatable to the gov't is to attach it to an increase in some other funding they will get to make up for the profit loss in the prison system.

The end user just gets weaker commercial bud with who knows what sprayed on it.

Nothing happens with legalization except: 1) your LE will be bored arresting weed users and growers. Example: Here they have a halo rule, no growing 25 miles within a dispensary but it got lost in the LE handbook, they think 12 plants is okay anywhere discrete. 2) Black market pricing will be the norm in retail outlets for a few years. 3) The black market weed will be better and cheaper for a few more years. 4) Less peeps are arrested. 5) It's not as much fun anymore. Legality increases boredom. No more worrying about choppers and heat sensors. Even your fucking neighbors are growing weed. 6) Many more choices for Xmas gifts.

I'm just a little med grower for personal use so no income was lost during our state's legalization.

Yep, it's just like alcohol is federally legal but you still have dry counties in Southern States.

I think I will always grow, even when it gets really cheap. I enjoy growing, but I also grow vegetables too

PopeyeSpinach said:

Yep, it's just like alcohol is federally legal but you still have dry counties in Southern States.

I think I will always grow, even when it gets really cheap. I enjoy growing, but I also grow vegetables too

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well, once it becomes really cheap, what is the incentive for them to try hard for quality? Same as homegrown veggies tasting better than store bought imho. Simply not being bound to chopping for market vs chopping when ready.

There will be a market for both

Because the masses still buy the mass farmed vegetables and drink Natural Light and Popov vodka.

If you want organic your gonna pay more

If you want to drink Premium beer your gonna pay more.

If you want Titos vodka your gonna pay more.

My best friend makes really good money but drinks Keystone Light, its his favorite beer

PopeyeSpinach said:

There will be a market for both

Because the masses still buy the mass farmed vegetables and drink Natural Light and Popov vodka.

If you want organic your gonna pay more

If you want to drink Premium beer your gonna pay more.

If you want Titos vodka your gonna pay more.

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I've tasted "organic" vegetables grown by the corporations and charged thrice as much for, they still aren't the same quality as home grown until they are ripe. It has to do with picking things and transportation, there is no feasible way for them to wait until the whole crop is ready. They harvest on a schedule, regardless of organic or chemical or gmo.

Weed is the same, once $$$ gets involved, sure they will slap any old label on there to sell it and most idiot consumers won't know the difference, but you and I know what quality dank is.

For that matter, I've grown 20 different types of tomatoes and all have been delicious just "different." You can buy the same 20 varieties in the store and they will have no flavor at all because they were picked when green and gassed to "look" ripe. Same genetics just ain't tasting the same.

I support @Moldy. Contrary to popular belief, regular use of marijuana can produce symptoms of dependence. There are some medical uses of marijuana such as pain relief and appetite stimulation but its recreational use is more widespread.

Cannabis is one of the very few medicines that people use mainly for the side effects!

Here in Canuckistan the fed makes the main rules but the provinces are free to make a lot of their own as long as they don't conflict with the federal rules.

Fed says 4 rec plants per household, (not per adult), 2 provinces, Manitoba and Quebec say NO to any recreational home growing period and one territory, Nunavut I believe, is the same.

Some provinces say OK to outdoor if discrete but others are indoor only.

The fed licenses legal growers but has made the regulations so onerous that only those with deep pockets can get into it so that effectively bars most small growers that would create the truly dank.

Have a pot bust in the last 10 years then you're shit out of luck.

Get this. For legal medical growers you can have up to 4 growing at the same location but no one is allowed to help any of the others. If you are a patient that can't grow so you get a designated grower to do it for you you are allowed to help your DG with all aspects of the grow from sprout to processing the harvest plants and all aspects in between.

I've had my med papers for the last 5 years but never applied to grow tho been growing here for 19 years come Feb. My wife was recently diagnosed with liver tumors so my doc signed her up for 6g/day. I have 12g/day so added together with the 4 rec plants we are allowed we'd be legal for 92 plants.

If we get our grow permits as individuals we won't legally be able to help each other so I may have to get her to make me her designated grower which means I have to get a criminal record check but then we can do it together and not have to have separate grow rooms to pretend we were separate in case we were ever inspected. I've never even been charged much less busted in 50+ years of smoking, dealing and growing pot so no problem there.

After 14 months of Prohibition 2.0 up here they figure the black market is still 80% of the total pot sold. No wonder as they've made it too hard for the convicted to get on the legal path so those guys are cranking out bud at half the price and none of the BS to make sure the legal growers go bankrupt and it's working great.

I'll never buy any of the legal schwag and no one else should either!

ScarletSmith said:

I support @Moldy. Contrary to popular belief, regular use of marijuana can produce symptoms of dependence. There are some medical uses of marijuana such as pain relief and appetite stimulation but its recreational use is more widespread.

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I use from the time i wake up til i go to sleep and have been since March of 17' and id say im less dependent on MJ than i was Cigarettes. I use it for pain anxiety and PTSD, but some mornings I wake up and I'm good till 6 or 7 at night before I need anything. I could never say that about cigarettes. I know people who are more dependent on eating fast food and sugar foods than I am with cannabis....