what should i charge to be a grow consultant

ok so heres the deal. I have some people that want to hire me to come in to their spot and set up a perpetual op for them. they want me to come in as a 3rd party for a share of the investment and return, but ive got my own interests and dont really need the headache of 2 partners. so my proposal to them is I will come in for a six month period and show them how to run "the machine", after which they will know how to stay self sufficient from mother to clone to finished herb. I will also make myself avail for a period after for troubleshooting purposes. my main question is what should i charge. I am not an opportunist by any means and am not looking to retire off of this, but i do like to get compinsated for my time and knowledge. now before everyone reads this and wants to chime in on all the wrong that can happen, risks invloved and all the other possible bad shit that comes along with this spoprt please keep it to yourself. even though this is in cali and completely medical i am fully aware of the problems and risks that can occur. like I stated before im just wondering what the consensus out there would be on what would be a fair price for compensation.....thank you kindly to all of you

I did this free for a friend, put in a total of about 80 hours and when it came time to harvest wasnt even offered a fricken 1/8th.

I really don't know the answer to your question homie, but I know a dude who at one time was charging like 20 stacks, which I thought was an outrageous consultation price. Don't know if this is helpful, although in your case for six months work that figure actually sounds pretty reasonable, but what do I know.

FlyLikeAnEagle said:

I did this free for a friend, put in a total of about 80 hours and when it came time to harvest wasnt even offered a fricken 1/8th.

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Now that's fucked up! Guess that's why settling on an up front price before moving forward with the grow is a good idea. Yeah that hook me up now and I'll take care of you later shit is for the birds and exactly why I be on some Goodfellas shit! Fuck you pay me! Lol!

Make sure you create a reasonable demand for an underground market...you don't want no bastard to cheat you, or even worse report you...like what happened to me during one october in ukiah when I was 16. lol

i would say more details are needed weather ur going to be there everyday or checking on things once a week also dont how much u expect to produce a harvest
will u have other work and make sure u get a decent amount up front

I'd say 1/3 of the first grow with a min of 2 oz. of dank stuff depending on the size of the op. The first grow will be very dependent on your help. Otherwise it will fail or become reduced results at several points without your input. There is a trendous amount to learn about this hobby by simple reading all these forums for many, many hours plus the knowledge from a couple grow experiences. If they don't want to go that route and depend on your experience.....You really come into play when things don't go right and you get it back on track....like too much water, over nut, seed sprouting, light burn distance from light etc.....

dhhbomb said:

i would say more details are needed weather ur going to be there everyday or checking on things once a week also dont how much u expect to produce a harvest
will u have other work and make sure u get a decent amount up front

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All of the above!

Oh, you mean consultant right,,,,Your not going to have to go buy all these things and actually spend the time to put it together? Very different approaches

15-20 % of first harvest and nothing after that
tell them about this site and be done with them
but it is strongly surgested that you reconsider 2 is two many unless there married but if you must help, help from a distance let them know about riu.org this site is way better than any book or video and theres other just like this one if you dont ever want them to come across this site
look this is not rockit science its growing weed perpetually show them how to post and ask questions
do it for free
just drop in every blue moon point some shit out and be done with it
dont be all hands on helping build things and shit
all in there like its your op let them do every little thing

"EVERY LITTLE THING"
becouse people will try to get you to do every thing, then ack like you did nothing, till they get cought then they give you ALL the credit.

help but dont help

if they are commercial growers then they understand commerce. organised crime or businessmen that want in on a new market. either way they have money. 6 months plus being on call is alot of commitment from you. charge for it.

if your talking small tinpot setups then just point them this way and walk away.

Obviously you take their first crop.

A friend of mine says, based on 1 week (5 days work, weekend off) work @ $100/hr, 8 hr/day, 6 months off site support thereafter: If it's out of town, all expenses paid (2ok)... transportation, lodging, food. 8 racks up front... 4 racks for the above estimate of work and another 4 racks for the favor. 33% of the bottom line for the first 6 months, paid out monthly. Option to renegotiate thereafter if desired.

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15-20 % of first harvest and nothing after that
tell them about this site and be done with them
but it is strongly surgested that you reconsider 2 is two many unless there married but if you must help, help from a distance let them know about riu.org this site is way better than any book or video and theres other just like this one if you dont ever want them to come across this site
look this is not rockit science its growing weed perpetually show them how to post and ask questions
do it for free
just drop in every blue moon point some shit out and be done with it
dont be all hands on helping build things and shit
all in there like its your op let them do every little thing

"EVERY LITTLE THING"
becouse people will try to get you to do every thing, then ack like you did nothing, till they get cought then they give you ALL the credit.

help but dont help

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dont post just to post please...this was of no help at all. i dont need the warning i am well aware( like the op stated) of the risks involved(not a factor for me at all) read and understand the post before replying next time please

Most of these posts do seem reasonable. Bring to the table all of your love but since we're speaking of a business deal one needs to treat it strictly as such. Take the approach of high finance essentially your teaching them how to make x with x cards x plants. There is to much lag time to just jump in and take x from crop so here's what I do. Half of the battle is getting the correct genetics the other half is getting the equipment. Make provisions to contract for a year based on mins and max's. For instance take 10 points if they do everything instructed and take 20 points if you walk in and find otherwise. There should be penalties for stupid shit like not labaratory clean, letting mites take over, not taking clones on schedule, most important is they must keep a log of man hours and ph, rh, tds. Any failure to keep set points at pin point level's specified by you has some reprocussions $$$. The goal is to franchise them with the contract and like you said not retire off of their efforts but be the voice of reason that helps them sleep at night knowing their going to pull x grams per watt within reason if they do as you say. As a baseline you should pull at minimum sixty per hour of on site time spent. I'm currently working out a med contract based on these principles; because, there is nothing worse than showing up on site to see that they read a thread somewhere that fucks the entire run up. Cover your ass with paper think of everthing that can be fucked up by them but in the same breath be graciouse on equip failure's as you know. Any way the goal is like said by another poster in here help but not help and make sure they completely understand that there is a lot of fucking work and any notion that this will be a walk in the park should be set aside by not signing the contract. Just remember the verbal agreement just leads to forgetfullness and loss of revenue for both parties of what was originally agreed upon. Demand monthly stock status reports from their journal make them measure everything and with any luck within about 4 to 6 months of hands on you should have given them wings and shoved them out of the nest. Also on the back flow if any reserves exist in their inventory have a provision for a set price that is reasonable in your area. Best regards and keep charg'n....

Do you really know your shit? If so, you will be passing on some valueable information - get paid for it!

They are paying for your time and knowledge. Charge them $20. per hour (or whatever you think is right).

Make it clear that you are teaching them how to grow "Tomatoes" (wink, wink - nudge, nudge!). Draw up some kind of a legal-looking paper that will act as a contract and a disclaimer!

OK.... first off,pinner420 I think I want you to come and negotiate for me in my fulltime business. you are a shark bro i love it. ive been thinking long and hard about this and have taken into consideration things ive read here and talked over with other friends of mine. Now I am a super busy person I own my own bussiness that is already a full time job in itself. im not going into specifics but i grow a little herb also which takes up alot of time as well. the last thing i need to do right now is add another commitment to the table and have it be a bunch of bullshit and hassle. the only reason I am into doing this right now is I will be helping out people close to me and making sure people eat. However time and experience is money. like stated above i will be handing over a viable source of income when everything is said and done. so this is what ive come up with. we are going to be setting up a 9000w perpetual with 4 4x8 tables that have 2000w over each one and 1 4x8 table for veg with 1000w over it. im going to set rotation to pull 2 tables a month. im going to be taking 1/3rd of that for as long as im involved. now in order for me to be involved i have complete control of and will do everything(except the hard labor of course). the minute that anyone tries to overstep their position i walk and they can figure out how to get the finish product and replenish their trays without dropping $600 on clones every 4 weeks. I know some of you are thinking "well now that you got them up and running they dont need you" thats the catch, these arent the types to try and teach themselves or read up. they have been siting on enough equipment to turn 10lbs a month easy for over 7 months and have made no attempt to do shit with it. they have no knowledge of growing herb or anyway to get 2-3lbs off every 4 weeks. what I also come with is an intro to some clubs when I feel I am ready to go which will be in 6 months top. that is the final condition im done in 6 months no matter what so PAY ATTENTION because when im done im done. look I know i can probably get more and even milk it for a lot longer but the way I see it is.
1. I help someone become self sufficient
2. its all return at no financial investment.
3. its alot more space than im used to so i will have some room to play around with some strains and genetics.
4.the return from this will help me get a jump start on another project im interested in.

so let me know what you guys think. until then here are some gratuitious pics ......

I think you hit the nail on the head.

Oh, and another thing..... that's quite the lush paradise you have going in those pics..... looks awesome! How old are the kids in that photo?

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